Topic: Does seeing sombody as fat/ugly make me shallow?
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Sun 08/09/09 03:00 PM
I have chatted with a number of women from this site.
Would I date all of them?
Probably not.
Would all of them want to date me???
Probably not.

Some folks block email from smokers, like they could smell it over the internet.
But thats cool.

I'll chat with just about anybody who isn't blatantly ignorant, racist, or stupid.

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Sun 08/09/09 03:07 PM

I have chatted with a number of women from this site.
Would I date all of them?
Probably not.
Would all of them want to date me???
Probably not.

Some folks block email from smokers, like they could smell it over the internet.
But thats cool.

I'll chat with just about anybody who isn't blatantly ignorant, racist, or stupid.


That's what people seem to miss, everyone isn't attracted to everyone, and I think I'd be pretty freaked out if I discovered that they were.scared

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Sun 08/09/09 03:13 PM


I have chatted with a number of women from this site.
Would I date all of them?
Probably not.
Would all of them want to date me???
Probably not.

Some folks block email from smokers, like they could smell it over the internet.
But thats cool.

I'll chat with just about anybody who isn't blatantly ignorant, racist, or stupid.


That's what people seem to miss, everyone isn't attracted to everyone, and I think I'd be pretty freaked out if I discovered that they were.scared


Trust me, they're not.

I mean REALLY not....


Peachiepoohie's photo
Sun 08/09/09 03:27 PM

Be real; while defineing someone as fat or ugly may not be the most tackful terms, everyone has a right to preferences without being labled shallow.

Shallow is people who pretend to have higher ideals and waste people who they are not attracted to time, feelings, and effort building a friendship in hopes that it will "overcome" a basic disinterest.

Tip toeing around responding to someone is cruel. It is much kinder to give a direct prompt response that "I do not consider us a match" and shut up. It is false to suggest you can be friends or wish them luck. At least respect them enough to just get out of the way and let them move on.


The personal preferences aren't what makes him shallow. I personally prefer a man who is taller than me...which is all fine and well. It's when I start limiting my dating pool by superficial qualities that the shallowness kicks in. Ya see...if I don't get to know the man...tall or short...I don't know WHO he is, just WHAT. Do you honestly think that successful LTR's are based PURELY on apperance? No...in fact, absolutely not.

Now then, if I happen to meet a man who meets my prefences physically who ALSO stimulates my mind, shares my interests, shares my family values and treats me with the respect I deserve...then bonus for me. However, if I meet a man who is shorter than me who stimulates my mind, shares my interests, shares my family values and treats me with the respect I deserve...well, I'm damn lucky.

Maybe we all should refresh ourselves on the meaning of the word PREFERENCE.

Preference (also called "taste" or "penchant") is a concept, used in the social sciences, particularly economics. It assumes a real or imagined "choice" between alternatives and the possibility of rank ordering of these alternatives, based on happiness, satisfaction, gratification, enjoyment, utility they provide. More generally, it can be seen as a source of motivation. In cognitive sciences, individual preferences enable choice of objectives/goals.


Okay...let me point out one sentence in particular: It assumes a real or imagined "choice" between alternatives and the possibility of rank ordering of these alternatives, based on happiness, satisfaction, gratification, enjoyment, utility they provide.

See...preference is which alternative you would CHOOSE first...not that you eliminate all the alternatives to your preference- which is what seems to have fanned the flames on this topic.

I have to agree though that your maturity level probably has something to do with this.

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Sun 08/09/09 07:08 PM
I still don't see what difference it makes if someone doesn't want to date you or even talk to you. Big deal. Find someone else who does.

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Sun 08/09/09 07:10 PM



I have chatted with a number of women from this site.
Would I date all of them?
Probably not.
Would all of them want to date me???
Probably not.

Some folks block email from smokers, like they could smell it over the internet.
But thats cool.

I'll chat with just about anybody who isn't blatantly ignorant, racist, or stupid.


That's what people seem to miss, everyone isn't attracted to everyone, and I think I'd be pretty freaked out if I discovered that they were.scared


Trust me, they're not.

I mean REALLY not....




Glad someone has the guts to admit that.drinker

Lilypetal's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:11 PM
I just ignore everyone, saves on whining!

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Sun 08/09/09 07:12 PM

I just ignore everyone, saves on whining!


me too

Ladylid2012's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:23 PM

I still don't see what difference it makes if someone doesn't want to date you or even talk to you. Big deal. Find someone else who does.


agreed..

rara777's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:25 PM


* grabs the popcorn *


*loads shotgun and eats popcorn*


drinks drinker Breaks out some coldies and joins the party.drinker drinks

newarkjw's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:32 PM
It isn't very pretty what a town with out pity can do......smokin

Dragoness's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:35 PM
Does it make you shallow, of course, you wouldn't be asking that if you did not already know it inside yourself.

Solution, tell them you are not interested, if they ask why, tell them the truth as nicely as you can.

You will be denying yourself possible connections with some fantastic people with the shallow restrictions you place on yourself but hey it will be your loss in the end not theirs.

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Sun 08/09/09 07:36 PM


I don't like to see celulite or cankles on a lady, I like some nice smooth tone legs. I don't feel that makes me shallow its just a personal preference.


If the fact that they have cankles or a bit of cellulite on their legs is what causes you to determine whether they are worth talking to, that is shallow.

Everyone has personal preferences. I prefer the women I go out with to be shorter than I am. But that doesn't mean I won't be friendly with a woman who is taller than me. I just wouldn't see her as date material for me.

HEllo, we have a BINGO

PATSFAN's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:37 PM
:banana: I'm pretty fly for a fat guy:banana:

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Sun 08/09/09 07:42 PM

I try to think of myself not as an optimist or a pessimist but a realist. I realize that if I do not find someone particularly attractive, then the relationship will not proceed anywhere romantically. It's just a matter of personal preference, really. Obviously, if somebody who is not "my type" messages me seeking just that, how do I let them off easily, without seeming shallow? Do you believe that such a preference makes me shallow?


IMO
I have to be optimist and think that a young man like you, seemingly intelligent, relatively polite, would not pass up the opportunity for a wonderful relationship with a young woman because of weight. I do not disagree that first impressions are vital, but that does not mean that someone you initially find unattractive, cannot become someone you are very attracted to. I believe that because I have experienced it. But, if you really, really don't believe, under any circumstances, that you can be attracted to a heavy woman, put that in your profile. If I read that, I don't contact someone in a romantic way. If it's in your profile and someone inappropriate contacts you, either don't respond and delete the email or respond and say you are not attracted to large women. The result will be the same either way. If they persist, block them. Plain and simple.
Good luck in your search!

glasses

JustAGuy2112's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:43 PM

:banana: I'm pretty fly for a fat guy:banana:


I TOTALLY resemble that remark!drinker

PATSFAN's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:44 PM


:banana: I'm pretty fly for a fat guy:banana:


I TOTALLY resemble that remark!drinker




drinker

GG2's photo
Sun 08/09/09 07:46 PM

don't be an asshat and tell them that you think they are fat and ugly. just say "thanks but i'm not interested." and leave it at that.

its not hard.

gawd.

LOL



Right? Bear in mind this yung'n is only 18, still got a lot to learn!!!

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Sun 08/09/09 07:47 PM


I try to think of myself not as an optimist or a pessimist but a realist. I realize that if I do not find someone particularly attractive, then the relationship will not proceed anywhere romantically. It's just a matter of personal preference, really. Obviously, if somebody who is not "my type" messages me seeking just that, how do I let them off easily, without seeming shallow? Do you believe that such a preference makes me shallow?


IMO
I have to be optimist and think that a young man like you, seemingly intelligent, relatively polite, would not pass up the opportunity for a wonderful relationship with a young woman because of weight. I do not disagree that first impressions are vital, but that does not mean that someone you initially find unattractive, cannot become someone you are very attracted to. I believe that because I have experienced it. But, if you really, really don't believe, under any circumstances, that you can be attracted to a heavy woman, put that in your profile. If I read that, I don't contact someone in a romantic way. If it's in your profile and someone inappropriate contacts you, either don't respond and delete the email or respond and say you are not attracted to large women. The result will be the same either way. If they persist, block them. Plain and simple.
Good luck in your search!

glasses


really now? ohwell

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Sun 08/09/09 07:47 PM
If someone doesn't like you, why in the world would you want to be ANYWHERE near them. They are gonna think what they want and YOU nor ANYONE else isn't going to change that, so move on for crying out loud.

If they don't like you and you keep bugging them, your going to get your feelings hurt. When they aren't interested, leave them the heck alone.

The same applies to you, if your not interested, then LEAVE them alone, if they keep bugging you, you might have to hurt their feelings to get the point across.

If the Fat and Ugly people have a problem with it, then fix yourself and come back later.

You can whine about a problem , or you can fix YOUR problem or ignore THEIR problem.