I am unaffiliated and support the plan

You didn't like him even before he became President. lol

Approximately 47 million.

Low lifes? I know people that work their butts off and their jobs don't offer insurance. I know single moms working two jobs and they don't have insurance. I know somebody that works outside 12 and more hours a day and sometimes 6 days a week and he doesn't have health insurance. I know people out of jobs due to the recession and they don't have insurance. These people are NOT low lifes.

Lies to the left of me... Lies to the right

Here I am...

stuck in the middle.

I wonder if our congressional types realize what they have done to us with those lies.

I am tired of that also.

The people in our society are the people that go into government.

The government is absolutely a reflection of those in our society. Good people, greedy people, wackos, and control freaks. Just like outside government. The increase in selfishness comes from people in our society, doesn't matter where they end up, whether it's in a corporation or government they still came from our society.

The biggest thing I see in these "town hall" meetings is concerned citizens asking questions about excatly what is in the health bill.

I know that most of our representatives in congress haven't read the bill. And when asked a question about it they don't have a specific answer for the people they represent. Wether or not the questions being ask are so called "disinformation", the representatives should have detailed answers for the people explaining to them why they don't have to worry about what they are asking because it isn't true about the info they are getting. And they should be able to quote to them from the bill why the "disinformation" isn't true.

All I've seen on the news is our representatives repeat the talking points on why we need healthcare reform. Never any specifics or answers to the peoples questions.

When our representatives can't give specific answers to our questions that is when we should be worried and question even more.

I thought he was a jack a s s then and now I'm convinced!

47 million is what percentage of 300 million?

(oh and I believe that 47 million figure to be a lie)... It is much less than that...

Lies to the left of me lies to the right...

oh yeah...

I did the math on a dif post subtracting the imigrants that are here and those that choose not to buy insurance and it came out to around 7% if I remember correctly.

So then we are debating changeing a system that is working for the 7% it dosen't work for... at an outrageous price tag... instead of a small change here a little (tweek) there...

at a much smaller price tag. Kinda don't make any sense to me.

I think part of the reason people are so upset is that they don't see a need to change the healthcare system in a way that might affect them

well you can count me in that 47 million. but I don't want it.. I'm young, relatively healthy.. and I'm not the only one.. if I get catastrophically sick, I'm not going to the government for help.. a church maybe or my general practioner to see if she'll work something out with me.. or there are many charitable org's out there that help people in need.

you can also count in that 47 million the 12-20 million people who are here illegally.. they do not carry insurance.. should this nation further encourage people from other nations to come here illegally so that we might educate and feed their children, and now we'll provide them health insurance gratis?

entitlement programs, and that's what this is - an entitlement more welfare, only serve to enslave those whom they entitle.. generational recidivism to food stamps and welfare is clearly demonstrated.. and your Grand Imperator undid all the welfare reform time limitations when he ram-rodded the "stimulus bill" through congress.. but it was neccessary to do that right?? or else unemployment **might** reach 8%.. we're now at 9.4% and analysts say that the real unemployment rate is closer to 16%..

hope and change.. enjoy.

Your math was not accurate either.

Michael Moore was wrong about health insurance.



So were President Bush, Sens. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) and Hillary Clinton (D-N.Y.), presidential candidates former Sen. John Edwards and Gov. Mike Huckabee and The Washington Post, New York Times, Los Angeles Times, People magazine and Time magazine, as well as CNN, CBS and ABC.



Each of these people and media outlets incorrectly claimed the number of uninsured to be 40 to 50 million Americans. The actual total is open to debate. But there are millions of people who should be excluded from that tally, including: those who aren’t American citizens, people who can afford their own insurance, and people who already qualify for government coverage but haven’t signed up.



Government statistics also show 45 percent of those without insurance will have insurance again within four months after job transitions.



Accounting for all those factors, one prominent study places the total for the long-term uninsured as low as 8.2 million – a very different reality than the media and national health care advocates claim.

This post is not accurate either. Time limits on welfare was not changed only unemployment. Foodstamps and welfare stayed exactly the same.

I used to feel the way you do about healthcare and possible care if I got sick. Then in 2002 I was diagnosed with MS. Let me tell you the charities are no help. I lost everything within a few months, job, apartment, car, etc... I was homeless and dependent on 200 dollars a month in child support which luckily he was behind on or I would not have had that. I lived very very sick for years like this before I got approved for social security and I do get Medicare but it doesn't cover very much of my care. My medicine for my MS is 1000.00 dollars a month or more, shots, which Medicare does not cover so I had to apply to the NORDS to get my shots. I opted out of the shots and have been treating myself with natural rememdies since. I am taking a chance doing it this way but it is cheaper on me. I don't go to the doc alot because Medicare doesn't cover office visits. I pay for insurance to get the meds I do take. I do not get foodstamps, I do not get housing help.

The whole point here is you have no clue about the lack of care until you go through it.

So people are basically speaking out of their *** about something they know nothing about.

I AM sorry bout you situation.

But those numbers posted above you appear quite accurate by my own personal research...

as I said lies to the left and right.

The worse part is...

People in all parts of the US are repeating, believing, and deciding based on those lies...

LEFT AND RIGHT.

and missing the big picture.

The big picture being that elderly and disabled are under insured at best. Then there are those that cannot get insurance at all due to circumstances.

The 47 mjillion does not include illegals, it is citizens. The amount of those citizens that would opt into insurance if they could has to be the majority.

The amount of care we provide to our citizens means a stronger work force, more people who will be able to start their own businesses without the burden of having to carry insurance if they cannot afford to.

Also this bill addressess the tweeks that are needed to the current system.

Our country can work within it's premise and make the universal healthcare work.

18% of population if you believe the 47 million number........????



If it is soooooo important to cover these people...

A plan should not be "rushed" through congress....it should be debated, discussed, analyzed, and scrutinized. This can not, and should not be done in one or two months. What is the hurry????