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Edited by
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hmmm...it would depend upon who he was and what he did for a living. it'd also matter if he actually knew how to use it and was licensed. that said, the relationship would go no further, as i will never allow my children to live in a home with firearms. I also don't want my child in a home with firearms. A responsible gun owner should keep his firearms locked away safely so that a child could not injure themselves. The only exception to this is the firearm that is on their person and they are personally responsible for the safety of that firearm at all times. If you don't want your kids in a house with firearms I can respect that. It is your choice and if the gun owner is not responsible with his guns, I can't say that I blame you. My grandfather was a responsible gun owner. He hunted. He came back from a hunting trip and put his guns into the case and locked it. My mom was a child then. My uncle was outside on the porch playing with a pretend bow and arrow. The arrow was a ruler. He shot the ruler through a hole in the screen door and it hit a gun. The gun went off. My grandfather was tired from his trip and had forgotten a bullet. The bullet went into my mother's stomach. She was lucky and it went back out again. My mom made front page of the newspaper. We have it. It shows a small girl on a stretcher going into the ambulance. My point is that freaky things can happen. Accidents can happen. I don't even want my child visiting a friend that has a gun in the house. I don't know how careful those parents are with them. |
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? |
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I know.. If I see a woman getting beaten and raped on the street/alley, I will run to a local pay phone and call the police, then another 40 minutes for the cops to show up.... NO... let me drive home, get my gun out of the gun safe and then drive back to stop him. 
OR- I CAN JUST PULL OUT MY PISTOL FROM MY SHOULDER HOLSTER, POINT IT AT THE MAN AND GIVE HIM THE CHOICE... STOP OR DIE!!  
Does it really take that long for police to show up in your area? My phone did something weird last week and called 911 when I wasn't home. The call was made at 8:22. The police arrived at 8:23. There are places where I live that you can't even get cell service. How are you going to call the cops with no phone? I've never driven through any places that didn't have service before. |
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? I've lived in the same house for 10 years and it's not happened once in my neighborhood. I've been on my own since 1979 and it's never happened in any neighborhood that I've lived in. |
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hmmm...it would depend upon who he was and what he did for a living. it'd also matter if he actually knew how to use it and was licensed. that said, the relationship would go no further, as i will never allow my children to live in a home with firearms. I also don't want my child in a home with firearms. A responsible gun owner should keep his firearms locked away safely so that a child could not injure themselves. The only exception to this is the firearm that is on their person and they are personally responsible for the safety of that firearm at all times. If you don't want your kids in a house with firearms I can respect that. It is your choice and if the gun owner is not responsible with his guns, I can't say that I blame you. My grandfather was a responsible gun owner. He hunted. He came back from a hunting trip and put his guns into the case and locked it. My mom was a child then. My uncle was outside on the porch playing with a pretend bow and arrow. The arrow was a ruler. He shot the ruler through a hole in the screen door and it hit a gun. The gun went off. My grandfather was tired from his trip and had forgotten a bullet. The bullet went into my mother's stomach. She was lucky and it went back out again. My mom made front page of the newspaper. We have it. It shows a small girl on a stretcher going into the ambulance. My point is that freaky things can happen. Accidents can happen. I don't even want my child visiting a friend and that house has a gun. I don't know how careful those parents are with them. I mean no offense to your Grandfather, but by todays standards that is NOT being a responsiable gun owner. The gun should have never been left loaded and unattended. When I talk about being locked up safely I mean unloaded and in a VAULT. |
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? Do you always have your gun on you in the house? That's the only way that it's going to help in that situation, isn't it? |
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I know.. If I see a woman getting beaten and raped on the street/alley, I will run to a local pay phone and call the police, then another 40 minutes for the cops to show up.... NO... let me drive home, get my gun out of the gun safe and then drive back to stop him.
OR- I CAN JUST PULL OUT MY PISTOL FROM MY SHOULDER HOLSTER, POINT IT AT THE MAN AND GIVE HIM THE CHOICE... STOP OR DIE!!
Does it really take that long for police to show up in your area? My phone did something weird last week and called 911 when I wasn't home. The call was made at 8:22. The police arrived at 8:23. There are places where I live that you can't even get cell service. How are you going to call the cops with no phone? I've never driven through any places that didn't have service before. Obviously you haven't drove where I live. |
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? Again, paranoia. MIGHT that happen? Yeah, it may. But the chances are it won't. I'm not about to walk around armed or be with someone who feels like they need to. How can anyone enjoy life constantly worrying about bad things happening all the time? |
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Edited by
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? Do you always have your gun on you in the house? That's the only way that it's going to help in that situation, isn't it? I have one safely holstered on me right now so yes, it could help me. |
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? Do you always have your gun on you in the house? That's the only way that it's going to help in that situation, isn't it? I have one safely holstered one me right now so yes, it could help me. Possibly. Or, you could get shot while taking your gun out? Or what happens if the person breaking in gets ahold of your gun? Anything could happen, I'm sure. |
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? Again, paranoia. MIGHT that happen? Yeah, it may. But the chances are it won't. I'm not about to walk around armed or be with someone who feels like they need to. How can anyone enjoy life constantly worrying about bad things happening all the time? I agree! |
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? Again, paranoia. MIGHT that happen? Yeah, it may. But the chances are it won't. I'm not about to walk around armed or be with someone who feels like they need to. How can anyone enjoy life constantly worrying about bad things happening all the time? Believe it or not but I don't worry about it all the time and I enjoy life very much thank you. Also I'm not suggesting that you walk around armed all the time, that is your choice. All I'm asking is don't give me a hard time about my choice, that's all. |
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To those carrying guns on dates.. where are you going on dates that you feel the need to have a gun? My first thought? Rape. 
I'm not saying they're carrying them for bad purposes. But, I know that in Virginia you cannot carry a gun into a place that has a license to serve alcohol. So, I was just curious what types of places they're going on dates where they feel the need to carry their gun. If we new exactly when and where people would try to harm us then we wouldn't have a problem, would we. We would just avoid those places and times and have the police waiting there for the criminal, but we can't know that so that is why I carry protection. Also in most states you can not have alcohol in you poccession or be drinking any alcohol while carrying. You also can't carry into a place that makes over a certain percentage of it's profits from the sale of alcohol. Like liquor stores or bars for instance, but seeing as I do not drink and would hope that my date doesn't either I don't see where this is a problem for me. What about restaurants? In VA, you can't carry a gun into any place that has a liquor license. I don't know of any building in St. Louis that you can carry one into. |
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To those carrying guns on dates.. where are you going on dates that you feel the need to have a gun? My first thought? Rape.
I was on a date in my 20's and my date asked me to get something out of the glove compartment. There was a gun in there. I felt so sick to my stomach. I wanted out of that car! |
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hmmm...it would depend upon who he was and what he did for a living. it'd also matter if he actually knew how to use it and was licensed. that said, the relationship would go no further, as i will never allow my children to live in a home with firearms. I also don't want my child in a home with firearms. A responsible gun owner should keep his firearms locked away safely so that a child could not injure themselves. The only exception to this is the firearm that is on their person and they are personally responsible for the safety of that firearm at all times. If you don't want your kids in a house with firearms I can respect that. It is your choice and if the gun owner is not responsible with his guns, I can't say that I blame you. My grandfather was a responsible gun owner. He hunted. He came back from a hunting trip and put his guns into the case and locked it. My mom was a child then. My uncle was outside on the porch playing with a pretend bow and arrow. The arrow was a ruler. He shot the ruler through a hole in the screen door and it hit a gun. The gun went off. My grandfather was tired from his trip and had forgotten a bullet. The bullet went into my mother's stomach. She was lucky and it went back out again. My mom made front page of the newspaper. We have it. It shows a small girl on a stretcher going into the ambulance. My point is that freaky things can happen. Accidents can happen. I don't even want my child visiting a friend and that house has a gun. I don't know how careful those parents are with them. I mean no offense to your Grandfather, but by todays standards that is NOT being a responsiable gun owner. The gun should have never been left loaded and unattended. When I talk about being locked up safely I mean unloaded and in a VAULT. That was in the 1940's. I don't blame my Grandfather. He accidentally missed one bullet. He had the guns out of reach of children and locked up. It was a freak accident. |
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Edited by
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? Again, paranoia. MIGHT that happen? Yeah, it may. But the chances are it won't. I'm not about to walk around armed or be with someone who feels like they need to. How can anyone enjoy life constantly worrying about bad things happening all the time? Believe it or not but I don't worry about it all the time and I enjoy life very much thank you. Also I'm not suggesting that you walk around armed all the time, that is your choice. All I'm asking is don't give me a hard time about my choice, that's all. First, thank you Winx. Second, I'm not giving a hard time. Honestly. I just think it's sad that you feel the need to be constantly armed. That must be so stressful. I mean, even when you're at HOME? Sorry... I just... can't understand that mentality. It seems very paranoid and needlessly violent-minded to me. |
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I hope maybe I am shedding some insight on to how the average legal gun owners mind set is in reality and show you people that we are not the ones that you should fear. Most of us pray that we will never have to use our guns for protection, but we would rather have them and not need them, than to need them and not have them. We aren't a bunch of cowboys outhere looking for a gunfight and we aren't crazy. In most states we walk among you everyday and you have never even noticed us, but many good law abiding American gun owners would be more than willing to lay their life on the line to protect a strangers. Even though all we get in return is "why do you think you need a gun, are you paranoid, are you crazy" what's the deal people. Not everyone with a gun wants to harm you. GUNS ARE NOT EVIL!!!! SOME PEOPLE WHO WANT TO HARM YOU ARE, THAT'S WHY WE CARRY!!!! I'm assuming, too, that many gun carriers with that mindset have been victims of crime, which is sad, and which I can allow would make them a lot more paranoid. However, I'd rather get to know people and learn about them and their pov than always think they will hurt me. I get vibes from people that help me know I should probably stay away from them. I don't need to shoot anybody. And ditto on the guns with my kids. Sorry. No. I can think of two of mine who would LOVE to have a chance to play with a gun. My ex is good about showing them their grandfather's hunting rifles and safety and all that -- that's all they need. Let's say you are sitting at home with your children and suddenly a man breaks thru your door and says he is going to kill you and your children. Is there really a need to get to know him better at that moment? I know this has probably not happened to you, but can you say beyond the shadow of a doubt that it won't? Do you always have your gun on you in the house? That's the only way that it's going to help in that situation, isn't it? I have one safely holstered one me right now so yes, it could help me. Possibly. Or, you could get shot while taking your gun out? Or what happens if the person breaking in gets ahold of your gun? Anything could happen, I'm sure. You didn't read the post I wrote in this thread about the training I have put myself through, did you? I have been around guns my whole life and have had no accidents yet. I was taught gun safety from a young age. In the words of snarky could it happen yes, but it's very unlikely. |
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Ya know, you COULD just say you LIKE guns... I love ancient weaponry myself. There's nothing wrong with that. But the whole "I must arm myself against every possible predator out there" thing just makes you sound like a paranoid nut.
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Believe it or not but I don't worry about it all the time and I enjoy life very much thank you. Also I'm not suggesting that you walk around armed all the time, that is your choice. All I'm asking is don't give me a hard time about my choice, that's all. It is your choice to make. I don't think anyone is really giving you a hard time. We're all voicing our opinions. |
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Hey ladies I am not armed because I have to I'm armed by choice. I am not sad, or stressed, or paranoid, I am not filled with worry, it's just the way I was raised and my lifestyle. I have the upmost respect for your lifestyle I only ask the same in return.
I have some other people I have to email now, but I thank you all for an interesting conversation. I will check back in here tomorrow. I hope you all have wonderful night. Stay safe.  
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