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MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/02/09 07:53 PM
We have NO right to interfere in their practicesIts not our place to be concerned about what their women do.Its none of our business.We need to be caring about American women.Thats our businessThats what I care about. blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners. makes no sense if ya think about it One is here and the other is over there "over there, over there, The yanks are coming, The yanks are coming. Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic. One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society). Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country". It has taken place here and unbeknownst to authorities it does take place here. It is done in private. She shoots! She scores!

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sat 05/02/09 07:53 PM
it is sad that the heart can't go out past borders. makes you wonder sometimes why

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/02/09 07:54 PM Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 05/02/09 07:55 PM
We have NO right to interfere in their practicesIts not our place to be concerned about what their women do.Its none of our business.We need to be caring about American women.Thats our businessThats what I care about. blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners. makes no sense if ya think about it One is here and the other is over there "over there, over there, The yanks are coming, The yanks are coming. Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic. One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society). Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country". Who runs Gitmo? Not me or you, as far as I know. It is not part of "our culture or society", which is what you posted. It is ran by people from our society on behalf of our goverment.Therefore it is our (society's) responsibility BINGO

Melaschasm Joined Wed 12/10/08 Posts: 262	Sat 05/02/09 07:54 PM
To continue with a theme, The USA has a culture of war. The USA was founded in the fires of the American Revolution. The Manifest Destiny of the USA was achieved by defeating the Native American Indians. The States of the USA were unified by the 'civil' war. In WW1 and WW2, the USA acquired a dominant position of power in the World, via war. With victory in the Cold War the US became the only super power. It is clear that the USA has a culture of war. Thus we must celebrate the many wars the USA has been in recently as a part of our love of diverse and unique cultures. How can America's war in Iraq and Afghanistan be wrong, if it is our culture that drives us to fight? You think we can get back on topic here. If you have a personal agenda you want to address perhaps you should start a thread on it. My agenda? I am shocked and horrified by mutilation of female genitilia. I don't think that we should be celebrating this particular cultural difference. In fact I am a little surprised that so many people seem to think this is okay.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Sat 05/02/09 07:54 PM
Dont bother saying anything else to me.I wont respond.Game over.I am right I win Hey does that actually work? I'm right, everyone else is wrong so don't bother disagreeing with me... ok by show of hands how many people are now convinced I am right? Hmm I didn't think so. Still wrong Mirror i agree with you on this an winx agrees with me...so.... I'm with the girls on this one. Actually, they are right about most stuff anyway. Good answer.

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sat 05/02/09 07:54 PM
The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, using figures from the 1990 Census, has estimated that 168,000 girls and women in the U.S. had undergone the procedure or were at risk of being subjected to it. Since 2001, the State Department estimates that up to 130 million women worldwide had undergone circumcision. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/01/national/main2143496.shtml It's becoming our problem now. you are very right. luckily we have laws

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Sat 05/02/09 07:55 PM
To continue with a theme, The USA has a culture of war. The USA was founded in the fires of the American Revolution. The Manifest Destiny of the USA was achieved by defeating the Native American Indians. The States of the USA were unified by the 'civil' war. In WW1 and WW2, the USA acquired a dominant position of power in the World, via war. With victory in the Cold War the US became the only super power. It is clear that the USA has a culture of war. Thus we must celebrate the many wars the USA has been in recently as a part of our love of diverse and unique cultures. How can America's war in Iraq and Afghanistan be wrong, if it is our culture that drives us to fight? You think we can get back on topic here. If you have a personal agenda you want to address perhaps you should start a thread on it. My agenda? I am shocked and horrified by mutilation of female genitilia. I don't think that we should be celebrating this particular cultural difference. In fact I am a little surprised that so many people seem to think this is okay. Who on here thinks it's okay?

DaveyB Joined Wed 10/10/07 Posts: 18786	Sat 05/02/09 07:57 PM
We have NO right to interfere in their practicesIts not our place to be concerned about what their women do.Its none of our business.We need to be caring about American women.Thats our businessThats what I care about. blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners. makes no sense if ya think about it One is here and the other is over there "over there, over there, The yanks are coming, The yanks are coming. Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic. One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society). Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country". Who runs Gitmo? Not me or you, as far as I know. It is not part of "our culture or society", which is what you posted. It is ran by people from our society on behalf of our goverment.Therefore it is our (society's) responsibility Ah ok, that isn't exactly what you said but I will grant you that. To me it just means we have less control over it. But to ignore the situation and close our eyes to it anywhere in the world is still immoral IMV. We may not be able to do much if anything but we can still care and do whatever there is that we can do.

metalwing Joined Fri 11/14/08 Posts: 26218	Sat 05/02/09 07:59 PM
To continue with a theme, The USA has a culture of war. The USA was founded in the fires of the American Revolution. The Manifest Destiny of the USA was achieved by defeating the Native American Indians. The States of the USA were unified by the 'civil' war. In WW1 and WW2, the USA acquired a dominant position of power in the World, via war. With victory in the Cold War the US became the only super power. It is clear that the USA has a culture of war. Thus we must celebrate the many wars the USA has been in recently as a part of our love of diverse and unique cultures. How can America's war in Iraq and Afghanistan be wrong, if it is our culture that drives us to fight? You think we can get back on topic here. If you have a personal agenda you want to address perhaps you should start a thread on it. My agenda? I am shocked and horrified by mutilation of female genitilia. I don't think that we should be celebrating this particular cultural difference. In fact I am a little surprised that so many people seem to think this is okay. Who on here thinks it's okay? To belabor the point. Not me.

DaveyB Joined Wed 10/10/07 Posts: 18786	Sat 05/02/09 08:00 PM
To continue with a theme, The USA has a culture of war. The USA was founded in the fires of the American Revolution. The Manifest Destiny of the USA was achieved by defeating the Native American Indians. The States of the USA were unified by the 'civil' war. In WW1 and WW2, the USA acquired a dominant position of power in the World, via war. With victory in the Cold War the US became the only super power. It is clear that the USA has a culture of war. Thus we must celebrate the many wars the USA has been in recently as a part of our love of diverse and unique cultures. How can America's war in Iraq and Afghanistan be wrong, if it is our culture that drives us to fight? You think we can get back on topic here. If you have a personal agenda you want to address perhaps you should start a thread on it. My agenda? I am shocked and horrified by mutilation of female genitilia. I don't think that we should be celebrating this particular cultural difference. In fact I am a little surprised that so many people seem to think this is okay. I realize you were posting sarcastically, but sarcastically but by doing so in such hot button topics you draw the conversation off topic.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/02/09 08:01 PM Edited by MirrorMirror on Sat 05/02/09 08:07 PM
We have NO right to interfere in their practicesIts not our place to be concerned about what their women do.Its none of our business.We need to be caring about American women.Thats our businessThats what I care about. blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners. makes no sense if ya think about it One is here and the other is over there "over there, over there, The yanks are coming, The yanks are coming. Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic. One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society). Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country". Who runs Gitmo? Not me or you, as far as I know. It is not part of "our culture or society", which is what you posted. It is ran by people from our society on behalf of our goverment.Therefore it is our (society's) responsibility Ah ok, that isn't exactly what you said but I will grant you that. To me it just means we have less control over it. But to ignore the situation and close our eyes to it anywhere in the world is still immoral IMV. We may not be able to do much if anything but we can still care and do whatever there is that we can do. Actually thats exactly what I said. But perhaps there is one thing we can do.That is by setting an example to these people (in other cultures)by treating our women in a way that people of other cultures will see the benefits and want to treat their women the same way that we do(or should).

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sat 05/02/09 08:02 PM
actually I think most people actually care and feel for those girls whether we can do anything or not.

JasmineInglewood Joined Wed 11/28/07 Posts: 4447	Sat 05/02/09 08:05 PM
how many of you actually plan to do anything about female genital mutilation beyond talking about it on an internet forum and being "concerned"?

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/02/09 08:05 PM
To continue with a theme, The USA has a culture of war. The USA was founded in the fires of the American Revolution. The Manifest Destiny of the USA was achieved by defeating the Native American Indians. The States of the USA were unified by the 'civil' war. In WW1 and WW2, the USA acquired a dominant position of power in the World, via war. With victory in the Cold War the US became the only super power. It is clear that the USA has a culture of war. Thus we must celebrate the many wars the USA has been in recently as a part of our love of diverse and unique cultures. How can America's war in Iraq and Afghanistan be wrong, if it is our culture that drives us to fight? You think we can get back on topic here. If you have a personal agenda you want to address perhaps you should start a thread on it. My agenda? I am shocked and horrified by mutilation of female genitilia. I don't think that we should be celebrating this particular cultural difference. In fact I am a little surprised that so many people seem to think this is okay. I agree.I just don't think there is anything that can be done about it except perhaps to try to set an example (of a different way)to these cultures that believe in this stuff.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/02/09 08:06 PM
how many of you actually plan to do anything about female genital mutilation beyond talking about it on an internet forum and being "concerned"? good point

yellowrose10 Joined Tue 12/11/07 Posts: 52804	Sat 05/02/09 08:06 PM
how many of you actually plan to do anything about female genital mutilation beyond talking about it on an internet forum and being "concerned"? you realize there are groups out there that are trying to educate right??? what are you doing?? at least i care and i am concerned

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Sat 05/02/09 08:07 PM
Mirror, Organizations are using education as a tool to try to stop this mutilation in other countries. I remember that Oprah donated money to that cause years ago.

DaveyB Joined Wed 10/10/07 Posts: 18786	Sat 05/02/09 08:07 PM
We have NO right to interfere in their practicesIts not our place to be concerned about what their women do.Its none of our business.We need to be caring about American women.Thats our businessThats what I care about. blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners. makes no sense if ya think about it One is here and the other is over there "over there, over there, The yanks are coming, The yanks are coming. Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic. One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society). Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country". Who runs Gitmo? Not me or you, as far as I know. It is not part of "our culture or society", which is what you posted. It is ran by people from our society on behalf of our goverment.Therefore it is our (society's) responsibility Ah ok, that isn't exactly what you said but I will grant you that. To me it just means we have less control over it. But to ignore the situation and close our eyes to it anywhere in the world is still immoral IMV. We may not be able to do much if anything but we can still care and do whatever there is that we can do. Actually thats exactly what I said. But perhaps one thing we can do.That is by setting an example to these people (in other cultures)by treating our women in a way that people of other cultures will see the benefits and want to treat their women the same way that we do(or should). No what you said... repeatedly I might add We have NO right to interfere in their practicesIts not our place to be concerned about what their women do.Its none of our business.We need to be caring about American women.Thats our businessThats what I care about. Let me put this more succinctly if you want to understand why people object to your attitude. Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.Its none of our business. Personally I find that attitude extremely offensive. Why should I or anyother human not be "concerned"? Any time people are tortured mutilated and killed, I think we have a duty to be concerned if we wish to think of ourselves as caring humans.

Melaschasm Joined Wed 12/10/08 Posts: 262	Sat 05/02/09 08:09 PM
To continue with a theme, The USA has a culture of war. The USA was founded in the fires of the American Revolution. The Manifest Destiny of the USA was achieved by defeating the Native American Indians. The States of the USA were unified by the 'civil' war. In WW1 and WW2, the USA acquired a dominant position of power in the World, via war. With victory in the Cold War the US became the only super power. It is clear that the USA has a culture of war. Thus we must celebrate the many wars the USA has been in recently as a part of our love of diverse and unique cultures. How can America's war in Iraq and Afghanistan be wrong, if it is our culture that drives us to fight? You think we can get back on topic here. If you have a personal agenda you want to address perhaps you should start a thread on it. My agenda? I am shocked and horrified by mutilation of female genitilia. I don't think that we should be celebrating this particular cultural difference. In fact I am a little surprised that so many people seem to think this is okay. I realize you were posting sarcastically, but sarcastically but by doing so in such hot button topics you draw the conversation off topic. You have a point, but would the posts have worked if it was about meaningless issues? I suspect that it is only a passionately held belief that would cause someone to question the validity of their logic in supporting (or at least not opposing) this mutilation in the name of cultural diversity. However, I have made my point, and will not be posting additional comments in the same theme.

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Sat 05/02/09 08:09 PM
Mirror, Organizations are using education as a tool to try to stop this mutilation in other countries. I remember that Oprah donated money to that cause years ago. okay thats good Not sure why you addressed that to me but okay