Topic: Islamic Practices. Graphic
yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:38 PM

Girls die from this procedure. Quite often the procedure is performed with unsanitary instruments.


yes they do and usually it's a painful death too. which is why i care

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:39 PM





:smile:We have NO right to interfere in their practices:smile:Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.:smile:Its none of our business.:smile:We need to be caring about American women.:smile:Thats our business:smile:Thats what I care about.:smile:



blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners.
makes no sense if ya think about it
laugh One is here and the other is over therelaugh


hmmm technically speaking gitmo is not in the US.

I guess possible (probable)threats to american security are more important than islamic women and their young girls.
bigsmile Who runs Gitmo?bigsmile

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:41 PM



If you look back throughout history women have been demonized from being the bad influence that caused the downfall of man in the bible from Genesis throughout.

A women is considered out of control of herself at most times and man has to control her.

These traditional views have caused witch burning and sadly genitalia mutilation.

A woman in the throes of passion is a powerfully moving thing for men and out of fear they try to eliminate it.


Powerful words. However... that last part.... If I have been lucky enough to do the right things to get a woman into (or to be with a woman when she is in) the "throes of passion" which I believe is about the most wonderful thing in the world, why on earth would I or any man want stop it or prevent it from happening? It would appear that a lot of this mutilation is done solely by the older women due to "tradition" and the men have little to do with it.


Women have been led to believe what men have taught them disguised with reverence for a belief. They do it out of tradition but the beginning of the tradition came from the fear in man over the power of women.


A woman has been assigned the control of a man's genitalia for a long time in history. If sex happens and it should not have, the man is never blamed, after all, he is just being a man. Women were assigned the job of saying no. If you have a heathen woman who enjoys sex, will she say no?

These "traditions" have spread all over the world. There are some small societies where this is not the case but they are off the beaten path.
:heart: An answer so nice, it needs to be said twice:heart:

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:42 PM
ill

catwoman96's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:42 PM
ill ill

DaveyB's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:42 PM






:smile:We have NO right to interfere in their practices:smile:Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.:smile:Its none of our business.:smile:We need to be caring about American women.:smile:Thats our business:smile:Thats what I care about.:smile:



blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners.
makes no sense if ya think about it
laugh One is here and the other is over therelaugh


"over there,
over there,
The yanks are coming,
The yanks are coming.

Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic.
bigsmile One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society).bigsmile


Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country".

catwoman96's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:45 PM
knock on wood

Dragoness's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:45 PM




If you look back throughout history women have been demonized from being the bad influence that caused the downfall of man in the bible from Genesis throughout.

A women is considered out of control of herself at most times and man has to control her.

These traditional views have caused witch burning and sadly genitalia mutilation.

A woman in the throes of passion is a powerfully moving thing for men and out of fear they try to eliminate it.


Powerful words. However... that last part.... If I have been lucky enough to do the right things to get a woman into (or to be with a woman when she is in) the "throes of passion" which I believe is about the most wonderful thing in the world, why on earth would I or any man want stop it or prevent it from happening? It would appear that a lot of this mutilation is done solely by the older women due to "tradition" and the men have little to do with it.


Women have been led to believe what men have taught them disguised with reverence for a belief. They do it out of tradition but the beginning of the tradition came from the fear in man over the power of women.


A woman has been assigned the control of a man's genitalia for a long time in history. If sex happens and it should not have, the man is never blamed, after all, he is just being a man. Women were assigned the job of saying no. If you have a heathen woman who enjoys sex, will she say no?

These "traditions" have spread all over the world. There are some small societies where this is not the case but they are off the beaten path.
:heart: An answer so nice, it needs to be said twice:heart:


laugh flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:45 PM


Girls die from this procedure. Quite often the procedure is performed with unsanitary instruments.


flowerforyou excellent point winxflowerforyou


Thanks, Cat.:smile: flowerforyou

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:46 PM







:smile:We have NO right to interfere in their practices:smile:Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.:smile:Its none of our business.:smile:We need to be caring about American women.:smile:Thats our business:smile:Thats what I care about.:smile:



blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners.
makes no sense if ya think about it
laugh One is here and the other is over therelaugh


"over there,
over there,
The yanks are coming,
The yanks are coming.

Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic.
bigsmile One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society).bigsmile


Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country".
bigsmile Who runs Gitmo?bigsmile

metalwing's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:46 PM



If you look back throughout history women have been demonized from being the bad influence that caused the downfall of man in the bible from Genesis throughout.

A women is considered out of control of herself at most times and man has to control her.

These traditional views have caused witch burning and sadly genitalia mutilation.

A woman in the throes of passion is a powerfully moving thing for men and out of fear they try to eliminate it.


Powerful words. However... that last part.... If I have been lucky enough to do the right things to get a woman into (or to be with a woman when she is in) the "throes of passion" which I believe is about the most wonderful thing in the world, why on earth would I or any man want stop it or prevent it from happening? It would appear that a lot of this mutilation is done solely by the older women due to "tradition" and the men have little to do with it.


Women have been led to believe what men have taught them disguised with reverence for a belief. They do it out of tradition but the beginning of the tradition came from the fear in man over the power of women.


A woman has been assigned the control of a man's genitalia for a long time in history. If sex happens and it should not have, the man is never blamed, after all, he is just being a man. Women were assigned the job of saying no. If you have a heathen woman who enjoys sex, will she say no?

These "traditions" have spread all over the world. There are some small societies where this is not the case but they are off the beaten path.


All that may have been true in the past but the here and now situation is that you are every much as educated and capable of rational thought as me or any other man.

I frankly don't care how the traditions of genital mutilation got started. I think the girls need some help.

Dragoness's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:47 PM







:smile:We have NO right to interfere in their practices:smile:Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.:smile:Its none of our business.:smile:We need to be caring about American women.:smile:Thats our business:smile:Thats what I care about.:smile:



blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners.
makes no sense if ya think about it
laugh One is here and the other is over therelaugh


"over there,
over there,
The yanks are coming,
The yanks are coming.

Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic.
bigsmile One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society).bigsmile


Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country".


It has taken place here and unbeknownst to authorities it does take place here. It is done in private.

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:47 PM





If you look back throughout history women have been demonized from being the bad influence that caused the downfall of man in the bible from Genesis throughout.

A women is considered out of control of herself at most times and man has to control her.

These traditional views have caused witch burning and sadly genitalia mutilation.

A woman in the throes of passion is a powerfully moving thing for men and out of fear they try to eliminate it.


Powerful words. However... that last part.... If I have been lucky enough to do the right things to get a woman into (or to be with a woman when she is in) the "throes of passion" which I believe is about the most wonderful thing in the world, why on earth would I or any man want stop it or prevent it from happening? It would appear that a lot of this mutilation is done solely by the older women due to "tradition" and the men have little to do with it.


Women have been led to believe what men have taught them disguised with reverence for a belief. They do it out of tradition but the beginning of the tradition came from the fear in man over the power of women.


A woman has been assigned the control of a man's genitalia for a long time in history. If sex happens and it should not have, the man is never blamed, after all, he is just being a man. Women were assigned the job of saying no. If you have a heathen woman who enjoys sex, will she say no?

These "traditions" have spread all over the world. There are some small societies where this is not the case but they are off the beaten path.
:heart: An answer so nice, it needs to be said twice:heart:


laugh flowerforyou
flowers

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:48 PM








:smile:We have NO right to interfere in their practices:smile:Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.:smile:Its none of our business.:smile:We need to be caring about American women.:smile:Thats our business:smile:Thats what I care about.:smile:



blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners.
makes no sense if ya think about it
laugh One is here and the other is over therelaugh


"over there,
over there,
The yanks are coming,
The yanks are coming.

Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic.
bigsmile One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society).bigsmile


Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country".


It has taken place here and unbeknownst to authorities it does take place here. It is done in private.


:banana: She shoots!:banana: She scores!:banana:

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:49 PM
it has been established it has taken place here and as winx pointed out...they were prosecuted

Dragoness's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:49 PM









:smile:We have NO right to interfere in their practices:smile:Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.:smile:Its none of our business.:smile:We need to be caring about American women.:smile:Thats our business:smile:Thats what I care about.:smile:



blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners.
makes no sense if ya think about it
laugh One is here and the other is over therelaugh


"over there,
over there,
The yanks are coming,
The yanks are coming.

Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic.
bigsmile One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society).bigsmile


Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country".


It has taken place here and unbeknownst to authorities it does take place here. It is done in private.


:banana: She shoots!:banana: She scores!:banana:


shocked :wink: laugh

DaveyB's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:50 PM








:smile:We have NO right to interfere in their practices:smile:Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.:smile:Its none of our business.:smile:We need to be caring about American women.:smile:Thats our business:smile:Thats what I care about.:smile:



blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners.
makes no sense if ya think about it
laugh One is here and the other is over therelaugh


"over there,
over there,
The yanks are coming,
The yanks are coming.

Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic.
bigsmile One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society).bigsmile


Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country".
bigsmile Who runs Gitmo?bigsmile


Not me or you, as far as I know. It is not part of "our culture or society", which is what you posted.

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:50 PM
drinker

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:52 PM









:smile:We have NO right to interfere in their practices:smile:Its not our place to be concerned about what their women do.:smile:Its none of our business.:smile:We need to be caring about American women.:smile:Thats our business:smile:Thats what I care about.:smile:



blah lee. but we do care about treatment of gitmo prisoners.
makes no sense if ya think about it
laugh One is here and the other is over therelaugh


"over there,
over there,
The yanks are coming,
The yanks are coming.

Mirror, a hole has been made in your usually impeccible logic.
bigsmile One situation is over here (in our society),and the other situation is over there(in another society).bigsmile


Don't know how to break it to you Mirror but niether one of those is over here, neither is taking place in "our country".
bigsmile Who runs Gitmo?bigsmile


Not me or you, as far as I know. It is not part of "our culture or society", which is what you posted.
:smile: It is ran by people from our society on behalf of our goverment.:smile:Therefore it is our (society's) responsibility:smile:

Winx's photo
Sat 05/02/09 07:53 PM

The U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, using figures from the 1990 Census, has estimated that 168,000 girls and women in the U.S. had undergone the procedure or were at risk of being subjected to it. Since 2001, the State Department estimates that up to 130 million women worldwide had undergone circumcision.

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/01/national/main2143496.shtml

It's becoming our problem now.