Never did I say, oh, Our government definitely intentionally released this, however, these things have a history of getting out.

Most recently, that's easily proven is the Antrax attacks.


Once again, how many white people have died? We know white people are getting it too, so how many of them are dead?

It's only been killing Mexicans.

Where did I say, all these mexicans around the world?

The only thing I'm saying is our government has a history of messing with these things, they have a history of getting out and this thing isn't killing everyone who contracts it, only those Mexicans.

Then again, our Government also has a history of utilizing bioweapons. From Smallpox to the Natives to handing over those things to Saddam.

could it POSSIBLY be because thousands of people in mexico are infected, of whom 150 died.

if there are 50 people in the u.s infected, then the probability of one dying, should it be the same percentage-wise as mexico at about 6%, means one would expect only about 3 people to have died in the u.s.

given that the u.s had time to be swept by hysteria after this thing was identified in mexico and everyone who had been to that country recently sought medical attention as soon as possible after getting the slightest hint of a fever, while those in mexico had never heard of this flu when it first was identified and probably assumed they just had any ol' flu which wasn't serious enough to warrant hospitalization until it was too late... you could understand why the death rate in mexico in the early days was that high.

but noo, reality and common sense are way too boring, let the conspiracy theories about an impending race war continue...

You think Paul Watson is sitting in some mexican prison and PrisonPlanet.com is a prison paper?

Paul Joseph Watson is a webmaster and a writer who lives in England and runs PrisonPlanet.com, which is a left/right shattering news organization that focuses, not on partisan issues, but on government corruption and the push towards One world government.

The site itself is owned by Alex Jones, the documentary film maker and radio show host.

They have a long history of scooping MSM, forcing those kinds of stories into the main american lexicon, by putting them out and letting the web take them viral.

Who said anything about a impending race war??!!

This thing has elements of Swine, Bird and human flus, thats not unheard of, but extremely rare and if it was a totally natural phenomena, then it would have the same serious death tolls for everyone. I've not seen any numbers that say it's thousands of infected Mexicans, so I'm not prepared to comment on that.

As for the Anthrax, I do believe that some elements of our governmnt (intelligence agencies) were behind the "attacks" on a selected few, in order to increase the budget, thier power, etc. It was too clean and un-tracable for someone not privy to covert ops, police procedures and capabilities to pull off. I'm not saying that our government is incapable of doing REALLY bad things. They are, but I draw the line at believing anyone with any scientific background, especially in virology, would be so stupid as to not realize that viri readily mutate and could easily infect them too. Besides, most in government and indusry (the people that really make bad things happen, and COULD pull off such an operation) depend on Mexicans. I can't see the powerful shooting themselves in the foot.

As for "Mexicans" dying...the vast majority of people in Mexico, except in resort cities, are Mexicans. It is not the melting pot that the U.S. is. Do a google map of hospitals and clinics in the interior of Mexico and you will find that..THERE AREN'T MANY!! And the vast majority of Mexicans, especially farmers and people in rural areas have never had ANY health care, much less preventative.

If you get the flu here, are very young or very old, are weak, have a bad diet, have no health care, you can easily die. That is the rule, not the exception in Mexico. It boils down to poor people with minimal health care and poor diets dying. I'm done. Unless you talk again. lol

Oh! Well THAT makes him a reliable source!!! Funny I havn't heard of him. One internet nutcase/conspiracy theorist is as good as the next to me.

I still didn't see where you saw the numbers on ALL/ONLY the Mexican deaths outside of the backward country of Mexico..the thing this whole thing is based on. I am still counting....ONE! And he obviously got sick IN Mexico and his folks jumped the fence to get him some free health care in Houston. Wheres the rest?

Heres some history from when most people had the same level of health care as they do in Mexico now.

The influenza pandemic of 1918-1919 killed more people than the Great War, known today as World War I (WWI), at somewhere between 20 and 40 million people. It has been cited as the most devastating epidemic in recorded world history. More people died of influenza in a single year than in four-years of the Black Death Bubonic Plague from 1347 to 1351. Known as "Spanish Flu" or "La Grippe" the influenza of 1918-1919 was a global disaster.

The influenza pandemic circled the globe. Most of humanity felt the effects of this strain of the influenza virus. It spread following the path of its human carriers, along trade routes and shipping lines. Outbreaks swept through North America, Europe, Asia, Africa, Brazil and the South Pacific (Taubenberger). In India the mortality rate was extremely high at around 50 deaths from influenza per 1,000 people (Brown). The Great War, with its mass movements of men in armies and aboard ships, probably aided in its rapid diffusion and attack.

AND HERES THE CONSPIRACY THEORY FROM THEN:

The origins of the deadly flu disease were unknown but widely speculated upon. Some of the allies thought of the epidemic as a biological warfare tool of the Germans. Many thought it was a result of the trench warfare, the use of mustard gases and the generated "smoke and fumes" of the war.

FLU CAN KILL PEOPLE WITHOUT ADEQUATE MEDICAL CARE..AND IT WILL.

Thats the thing, I'm saying, where are the dead Europeans, the dead Americans, the dead Australians or Kiwis?

They're not there, it's just the mexicans that have been dying and that's what strikes me as odd. We have slums, dirty areas, polluted areas, we have substandard health care, where are our dead from the same flu?

Confirmed cases were reported for the first time as far away as New Zealand and Israel, joining the United States, Canada, Britain and Spain.

Swine flu is believed to have killed more than 150 people in Mexico, and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the U.S. has 68 confirmed cases in five states, with 45 in New York, one in Ohio, one in Indiana, two in Kansas, six in Texas and 13 in California.

About 1,500 students replied to surveys sent out by the health department about the outbreak, helping the city get a better sense of how the virus is spreading. Some students have complained of sudden nausea; others dealt with high fever, sore throats, coughs and aches.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090428/ap_on_he_me/med_swine_flu

"The number of suspected swine flu deaths in Mexico rose again last night to 159, with 2,498 more people thought to be infected, although the numbers showed signs of stabilising as the country imposed a dramatic lockdown on restaurants, gyms, and tourist attractions. "
- Times Online

159 + 2498 = 2757 people infected and died

death rate = 5.7% (oh my bad, my calculation was wrong, death rate is even SMALLER than what i stated above )

whatever the conspiracy theory you choose to pick up and run with... the point i'm making is that there is a logical explantion for the so called "difference" in death rates in mexico and in the u.s that don't involve some unfounded sinister plot on the part of the government to kill off people intentionally (as is inevitably the very FIRST conclusion some people make when these things happen)

Where's the theory in anything I've posted? Are you saying Government has no history of using biologicals against their "enemies"?

Point is, why is it only killing the mexicans?

I understand the percent over all is small, but the evidence suggests it's not just some random, natural phenomena.

No one ever said that it is a Government plot, but if you understand government history and it's use of false flags, it's preparation to used those things, then you have to look at that as a possibility.

What's the logical explanation for 159 deaths of mexicans vs. None for other groups?

Dr. Richard Besser, the acting chief of the Centers for Disease Control, said in Atlanta that there are confirmed cases now in ten states, with 51 in New York, 14 in California and 16 in Texas. Two cases have been confirmed in Kansas, Massachusetts and Michigan, while a single cases have been reported in Arizona, Indiana, Nevada and Ohio.

State officials in Maine said laboratory tests had confirmed three cases in that state, although those had not yet been included in the CDC count.
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Germany became the latest country to report swine flu infections. It reported four cases on Wednesday.

New Zealand's total rose to 14. Britain had earlier reported five cases, Spain four. There were 13 cases in Canada, two in Israel and one in Austria.

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Obama said the federal government is "prepared to do whatever is necessary to control the impact of this virus." He noted his request for $1.5 billion in emergency funding to ensure adequate supplies of vaccines.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/med_swine_flu
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"prepared to do whatever is necessary to control the impact of this virus."

good thing those dhs camps are available

In the US, if you have an illness, you go to any hospital and you will get treated. Maybe not in 5 minutes, but you WILL get care.

Send them all to Mexico, Guatemala, ElSalvador, almost ANYWHERE in Africa or any other place where they can't get adequate care and the mortality rate will increase. Keep watching and you'll see that in countries where this spreads to, and it will, the poorest and people without doctors, anti-viral drugs, etc. will start dying in droves. Betcha!!!

That would be the middle to upper class diet. Many, I know personally, eat just beans, rice, salsa and when they can afford it, meat.
Menudo. When I find it done well, it's great. Not everyone can make it well. They don't clean all the pig shlt out of the intestines and you can taste it.

From Times Online
April 28, 2009
Ryanair boss says swine flu only a risk for 'slumdwellers'


Curiously, there have been no deaths from the virus outside Mexico and doctors have been unable to explain the high level of mortality in the country

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article6186585.ece


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maybe this will cause some looking into it war

Bleccchhh!! @ Menudo..the band or the food! I'll take the swine flu instead!! Betcha I live!! (I'm white as snow!!)

Menudo, which is the stomach, also known as tripe. One of the world's grand dishes is the French Tripe a' la Mode de Caienne, which is tripe cooked slowly with onions, Calvados and spices. It is rich, warming and succulent. The French dish is good, but Sonoran Menudo is much, much better.

http://www.premiersystems.com/recipes/mexican/menudo.html

interesting very interesting

i'm not big on repeating myself.

please refer to my first post on this thread.

have a nice day sir

I know this. My ex was Cajun and concocted all manner of crap that normal folk won't eat. I've already told this in a thread somewhere but I walked in my house one day and said "What the f**k is that smell? You boiling dirty socks or something!?". Yes, it was a mistake and I learned why most men fear cajun women. (I still love em).

Cajun tripe is cow stomach lining, not pig. That doesnt make it any more desirable or delectable to me though. I'll take a ribeye and some baked potatos.

Darn, you're nice. (But thats still a funny hat!)

I'm leaning towards this train of thought:

Mexico's Mystery: Why Is Swine Flu Deadlier There?
Time.com

By BRYAN WALSH – Wed Apr 29, 12:00 pm ET

"While the difference in severity between Mexico and U.S. cases would suggest that there are different viruses affecting the two countries, researchers have genetically sequenced swine-flu viruses from both Mexican and American victims, and "we see no difference in the viruses infecting sick people and less-sick people," said Fukuda. And even if there were genetic differences, it wouldn't necessarily mean much - scientists still don't know exactly which genes do what on flu viruses.

The Mexican deaths may also be attributable to some underlying coinfection or health problem that is simply not present in the U.S. cases - but that will require more investigation to uncover.

It's also possible that A/H1N1 began life in Mexico especially virulent - that country has apparently been grappling with the virus for weeks longer than the U.S. has - and evolved to become less dangerous by the time it crossed the border. That would not be an unusual evolutionary device, since viruses that are too deadly cannot survive if they kill off their host before being given a chance to spread. "It's fairly common in epidemics to see a trade-off between the ability to cause severe death and transmissibility," says Steven Kleiboeker, a virologist and the chief scientific officer for ViraCor Laboratories. The A/H1N1 virus may be attenuating itself as it spreads from person to person, becoming easier to catch but less dangerous. (Read "CDC Readies Swine-Flu Vaccine.")

The WHO, however, says that so far the virus appears to have stayed relatively stable during the chains of transmission, so it may not be mutating much. Still, the virus's current relatively weak state does not guarantee that it won't return later, much more virulent - which is exactly what happened in the 1918 flu pandemic that killed at least 50 million people worldwide. As the flu season comes to an end in the northern hemisphere, it may lead to a natural petering out of new swine-flu cases in the U.S. But the strain may continue to circulate aggressively in the southern hemisphere, which is just now entering its flu season, and then return to the north next winter.

Any conclusions now will be premature, because we still don't know what we're looking at. Experts predict we'll eventually begin to see fewer new cases in Mexico, as lab results separate real swine-flu infections from normal respiratory disease. Meanwhile, the anticipation of more cases and deaths in the U.S. has already been begun to be borne out. As the CDC's Besser himself has pointed out, swine flu is going to be a marathon, not a sprint - and we've only just gotten started."