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Topic: They Walk Among Us
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Wed 04/22/09 08:19 PM
An Apollo 14 astronaut told a group of UFOlogists Monday that aliens are not a myth and called on the government to disclose its findings, The Washington Times reported.

"It is now time to put away this embargo of truth about the alien presence," Edgar D. Mitchell, who made the longest moonwalk in history, told those attending a conference in Gaithersburg, Md., set up by the Paradigm Research Group.

"I call upon our government to open up ... and become a part of this planetary community that is now trying to take our proper role as a spacefaring civilization," the 79-year-old added. "We are being visited."

Paradigm Research Group founder Stephen Bassett backed Mitchell's theory and demanded that President Obama's administration release all information concerning extraterrestrial beings.

"If it does not disclose, by the end of May — this is not a threat or anything, you don't threaten the United States government, they're heavily armed ... the PRG has an enormous and substantial network, and quite a bit of documentary evidence connected to this, particularly politically ... and we are going to be extensively putting that out to the media, and we're just going to make it as difficult on them as possible," Bassett told the newspaper.

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Wed 04/22/09 08:21 PM
So does Elvis...

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Wed 04/22/09 08:22 PM

So does Elvis...


laugh laugh laugh

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Wed 04/22/09 08:33 PM
Who knows, this could be interesting...

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Wed 04/22/09 08:34 PM

So does Elvis...


Who said......"Elvis isnt dead, He just went home."?

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Wed 04/22/09 08:44 PM
It amazes me that in the vasteness of the universe we would automatically assume we are alone. We can suggest there is a god no one can see but it's impossible for there to be aliens?

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Wed 04/22/09 08:50 PM
Music
icon Elvis is set to return with the new studio album ‘Secret, Profane & Sugarcane.’ The album will be released by Hear Music on June 2nd, and was produced by T Bone Burnett in Nashville.

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/music/

this came up when i googled elvis

so see elvis is still recording even


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Wed 04/22/09 10:16 PM

It amazes me that in the vasteness of the universe we would automatically assume we are alone. We can suggest there is a god no one can see but it's impossible for there to be aliens?



True, Just think about the Fact that We Have only Examined Our Arm (the Orion Arm) of the Milkyway. to think there's no other Life in the Milkyway Little Lone the Universe is Absurd.

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Wed 04/22/09 10:33 PM
It's a fact that as physicists study the expansion of the universe, they observe that the Earth seems to be at it's center.
To quote Stephen Hawkings:

"...all this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe."

You say coincidence? I say design.

We are probably alone is this infinite universe, sorry to rain on your parade.

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Wed 04/22/09 11:07 PM


It amazes me that in the vasteness of the universe we would automatically assume we are alone. We can suggest there is a god no one can see but it's impossible for there to be aliens?



True, Just think about the Fact that We Have only Examined Our Arm (the Orion Arm) of the Milkyway. to think there's no other Life in the Milkyway Little Lone the Universe is Absurd.


I agree.

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Wed 04/22/09 11:12 PM
Edited by boo2u on Wed 04/22/09 11:20 PM

It's a fact that as physicists study the expansion of the universe, they observe that the Earth seems to be at it's center.
To quote Stephen Hawkings:

"...all this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe."

You say coincidence? I say design.

We are probably alone is this infinite universe, sorry to rain on your parade.


Probably isn't definate is it? so at least for me it doesn't rain on my parade. Of course I don't know any more than you do or even Hawkings as brilliant as he is. None of us know, but to be absolute that there in no chance seems ridiculous to me.

I don't believe in the Biblical god, but I can not say absolutely there is NO god, even if it's not anything like what we envision.

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Wed 04/22/09 11:15 PM

"True, Just think about the Fact that We Have only Examined Our Arm (the Orion Arm) of the Milkyway. to think there's no other Life in the Milkyway Little Lone the Universe is Absurd."

Sorry...I have to ask about the seemingly random capitalization in your posts.

Are the words capitalized important words? Are you hoping to emphasize some aspect of the post and I am just not seeing it? Or do you just have a sticky keyboard?

I ask this because in some of your posts you do this and in others you do not. I find it somewhat perplexing.

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Thu 04/23/09 12:03 AM


"True, Just think about the Fact that We Have only Examined Our Arm (the Orion Arm) of the Milkyway. to think there's no other Life in the Milkyway Little Lone the Universe is Absurd."

Sorry...I have to ask about the seemingly random capitalization in your posts.

Are the words capitalized important words? Are you hoping to emphasize some aspect of the post and I am just not seeing it? Or do you just have a sticky keyboard?

I ask this because in some of your posts you do this and in others you do not. I find it somewhat perplexing.


Nope I'm Just Here to Perplexdrinker

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Thu 04/23/09 12:27 AM
It's a fact that as physicists study the expansion of the universe, they observe that the Earth seems to be at it's center.
To quote Stephen Hawkings:

"...all this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe."

You say coincidence? I say design.

We are probably alone is this infinite universe, sorry to rain on your parade.


The frame of reference from wherever you would actually be in the universe makes it so that it seems that you are viewing from the center.

It expands in all directions.

No worries, I have my umbrella.

laugh

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Thu 04/23/09 01:18 AM
I have a sort of odd dual thought process on this topic. I have read too much, seen too much to just do a blanket sweep of the "UFO" phenomenae under the rug (as our Government seems to do).

However, I'm invested in standing hard on what I can prove, so I before I said, oh yea, definitely Aliens, I'd have to have a glass of Lysol with a Grey or play the worse type of tag with one of those "Reptoids".

I would say, definitely something going on in our air space, I would say mathematically and just from reading some things from our own history that the idea of Alien life is not a product of a broken mind. I would also say that there needs to be some seriously hard evidence, like a Saucer crash into the Sears Tower, before you're ever going to get the hard minded to open up to the possibility.


I've always wondered, with some of the more odd things described in the Bible, how do the Christians look at the idea of UFO's.

(This came up because of the "Invisible" God comment from earlier.)

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Thu 04/23/09 02:35 AM

I have a sort of odd dual thought process on this topic. I have read too much, seen too much to just do a blanket sweep of the "UFO" phenomenae under the rug (as our Government seems to do).

However, I'm invested in standing hard on what I can prove, so I before I said, oh yea, definitely Aliens, I'd have to have a glass of Lysol with a Grey or play the worse type of tag with one of those "Reptoids".

I would say, definitely something going on in our air space, I would say mathematically and just from reading some things from our own history that the idea of Alien life is not a product of a broken mind. I would also say that there needs to be some seriously hard evidence, like a Saucer crash into the Sears Tower, before you're ever going to get the hard minded to open up to the possibility.


I've always wondered, with some of the more odd things described in the Bible, how do the Christians look at the idea of UFO's.

(This came up because of the "Invisible" God comment from earlier.)
To me if you put the description given in the book of Ezekiel on paper, (draw it) A wheel within a wheel that went upon it's side, the color of amber ( in the Hebrew - highly polished bronze) sounds and looks like a mode of transportation.

some old art and such has what appear to be a flying object in them as well.

it describes the landing gear, the windows with people inside and all.

Angelic beings, good or bad using modes of transportation. The bilbe says they left,(the fallen angels) their place of habitation, how did they get here? a flying vehicle perhaps

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Thu 04/23/09 10:43 PM

It's a fact that as physicists study the expansion of the universe, they observe that the Earth seems to be at it's center.
To quote Stephen Hawkings:

"...all this evidence that the universe looks the same whichever direction we look in might seem to suggest there is something special about our place in the universe. In particular, it might seem that if we observe all other galaxies to be moving away from us, then we must be at the center of the universe."

You say coincidence? I say design.

We are probably alone is this infinite universe, sorry to rain on your parade.


The frame of reference from wherever you would actually be in the universe makes it so that it seems that you are viewing from the center.

It expands in all directions.

No worries, I have my umbrella.

laugh


That's extremely far from being proven buddy. Hawking just stated this as a possible explanation, but he himself said that its just a theory. It's really just a way of avoiding the 'problem' of design.

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Thu 04/23/09 11:18 PM

I have a sort of odd dual thought process on this topic. I have read too much, seen too much to just do a blanket sweep of the "UFO" phenomenae under the rug (as our Government seems to do).

However, I'm invested in standing hard on what I can prove, so I before I said, oh yea, definitely Aliens, I'd have to have a glass of Lysol with a Grey or play the worse type of tag with one of those "Reptoids".

I would say, definitely something going on in our air space, I would say mathematically and just from reading some things from our own history that the idea of Alien life is not a product of a broken mind. I would also say that there needs to be some seriously hard evidence, like a Saucer crash into the Sears Tower, before you're ever going to get the hard minded to open up to the possibility.


I've always wondered, with some of the more odd things described in the Bible, how do the Christians look at the idea of UFO's.

(This came up because of the "Invisible" God comment from earlier.)
bigsmile You should do some research on the Montauk Projectbigsmile

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Fri 04/24/09 12:44 AM
That's extremely far from being proven buddy. Hawking just stated this as a possible explanation, but he himself said that its just a theory. It's really just a way of avoiding the 'problem' of design.


I could not agree more with the above underlined, if it is referring to the idea that the universe looks the same no matter where you are within it.

I could not disagree more if it is an attempt to claim that the universe is not expanding in all directions. That 'theory' accounts for every piece of scientific knowledge that we have at this moment in time and completely supports the Big Bang. Creationism however, with it's inherent personification of 'God',regardless of whether it is of the fundamental variety or intelligent design, leaves little to be desired and much to be assumed.

I was not the one attempting to use Hawking(who happens to be atheist) to support an argument for intelligent design. I found it quite ironic that someone else did. Based upon the support which was given, I simply clarified the actual theory, consequently dismissing it as a valid support for the argument of design. It is clearly an argument for the big bang, nothing more, nothing less...

flowerforyou

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Fri 04/24/09 07:05 AM

That's extremely far from being proven buddy. Hawking just stated this as a possible explanation, but he himself said that its just a theory. It's really just a way of avoiding the 'problem' of design.


I could not agree more with the above underlined, if it is referring to the idea that the universe looks the same no matter where you are within it.

I could not disagree more if it is an attempt to claim that the universe is not expanding in all directions. That 'theory' accounts for every piece of scientific knowledge that we have at this moment in time and completely supports the Big Bang. Creationism however, with it's inherent personification of 'God',regardless of whether it is of the fundamental variety or intelligent design, leaves little to be desired and much to be assumed.

I was not the one attempting to use Hawking(who happens to be atheist) to support an argument for intelligent design. I found it quite ironic that someone else did. Based upon the support which was given, I simply clarified the actual theory, consequently dismissing it as a valid support for the argument of design. It is clearly an argument for the big bang, nothing more, nothing less...

flowerforyou


What are you talking about? It's the opposite. Hawking said that it seems that we are the center of the universe since other galaxies are all moving away from us (I freaking provided the quote), and then he proposed that it could be that it appears that way from wherever you are in the universe only as a mere theory. The first statement is almost definite, the second is ions away from being proven and is simply just a cop out.

I know Hawking is an atheist, that's why quoting him saying "there is something special about our place in the universe" is such a strong argument to make against the big explosion thing that somehow miraculously brought about all that we know.

You know... for somehow who uses big words like "consequently", you sure don't say much. You're entire last post can be summed down to "Big Bang = good, Booo creationism!"... seriously, read what you write before you post it and ask yourself "among all these fluff words, do I actually have a point?"

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