Topic: They Just...
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Fri 03/20/09 12:09 AM
{{{{Lee}}}}......drinker :heart: ....enjoy the soda...couldn't find the popcorn.....but I am going to bed before I get a migraine....flowerforyou laugh

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Fri 03/20/09 12:10 AM

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laugh laugh laugh :tongue: flowerforyou



It's almost 3 am here...yawn


That's very late.laugh yawn


Not for meeeeeeeee.....................laugh laugh laugh


Because you work nights, silly.laugh

Night.flowerforyou

Jess642's photo
Fri 03/20/09 12:15 AM
Good night , Beauties!!!!! :heart:

Winx's photo
Fri 03/20/09 12:15 AM

Good night , Beauties!!!!! :heart:


Have a nice evening.happy flowerforyou

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Fri 03/20/09 05:55 AM

Won't let you in,unless you belong to the click...same people post all the time???


There are only a couple of actual "cliques" here -- and they don't want to deal with anybody who isn't a "member" -- but that's a very small minority of the site. And they really don't post much about anything that would be of interest to those outside their group, anyway, from what I've seen. They can go 47 pages, just the six or seven members of their group, on stuff that would put most of us into a narcoleptic state.

I have found that the vast majority of the people in the forums are perfectly willing to talk with anybody, once they get to know you. It may take a little time to get "established" but it's worth it.

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Fri 03/20/09 06:18 AM
I've seen this query posed a hundred times. A group of people become friends and form a type of "family" camaraderie, and suddenly they're pigeon-holed as a "clique". Using that scenario, wouldn't it be just as fair to say that the friends that the person who is complaining about the "cliques" hangs around with would also be categorized as a clique? Or are they just friends? What's the distinction?

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Fri 03/20/09 06:24 AM
I think most of us here have experienced this. Most of us aren't trying to be rude. We just get use to posting with in the same 'group' because those are the posts that we enjoy.

agrant333, you have been noticed and I would consider you a fairly regular poster. Chin up! flowerforyou

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Fri 03/20/09 06:37 AM

Won't let you in,unless you belong to the click...same people post all the time???
there sort of is..but then i could be misinterpreting it as a clique:smile:

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Fri 03/20/09 06:49 AM

I've seen this query posed a hundred times. A group of people become friends and form a type of "family" camaraderie, and suddenly they're pigeon-holed as a "clique". Using that scenario, wouldn't it be just as fair to say that the friends that the person who is complaining about the "cliques" hangs around with would also be categorized as a clique? Or are they just friends? What's the distinction?


I think it goes back to the issue of being willing to accept new people into one's circle. The true "cliques" simply refuse. Membership is closed, and there's no point trying to argue about it with them!

The worst example I've seen here was the truly incestuous, exclusionary, and insular clique of JSH "old-timers" who were already firmly entrenched when I got here (December of 2006). They would whine and moan endlessly about how JSH was no longer "their" site, how they didn't like the new people coming in -- it was as if they wanted the site to remain eternally at a few hundred people -- not the greatest business model, I'm thinking....

Thankfully, they all seem to have been wiped out by a meteor or something.

In spring of 2007, we had a mass migration of new people from another site, and a fair number of them absolutely refused to talk to anyone they didn't know from the old site.

I think they're all gone too, now....

The current cliques are smaller and less influential -- partly becaue there are so many more people here now, and partly because, well, the current cliques really don't have anything to say that's worth hearing. They're basically just dinosaurs waiting for fossilization.....

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Fri 03/20/09 06:51 AM
I'm my own clique. Morning all.laugh

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Fri 03/20/09 07:40 AM
In spring of 2007, we had a mass migration of new people from another site, and a fair number of them absolutely refused to talk to anyone they didn't know from the old site.

I think they're all gone too, now....


No, they're not all gone. In fact, a great number of them are still here. I know, because I was part of that migration from that other site, it just took me until the fall of '08 to get here (I took the scenic route). As far as them absolutely refusing to talk to anybody the didn't know from the old site, I can neither confirm nor deny, because I wasn't here at that time to witness any such goings-on. I won't say it didn't happen, however I would find it somewhat unlikely, at least to a certain extent. If it did, indeed, take place in the manner in which you're suggesting, it was perhaps due to the fact that many (most) of us began to be treated rather poorly over on that other site (I won't say by who, but suffice it to say that it wasn't by other members), and some of that bitterness and resentment may have followed with the migration from basically being forced from a site that many of us considered as "home". Having to come to (what we, at the time, considered as) a 'rival' site left many of us veterans that had been there for a very long time feeling somewhat vulnerable to being reverted back to "newbie" status again. Fortunately, that seems to have passed.

But....what the hell do I know?
ohwell

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Fri 03/20/09 08:02 AM

No, they're not all gone. In fact, a great number of them are still here. I know, because I was part of that migration from that other site, it just took me until the fall of '08 to get here (I took the scenic route). As far as them absolutely refusing to talk to anybody the didn't know from the old site, I can neither confirm nor deny, because I wasn't here at that time to witness any such goings-on. I won't say it didn't happen, however I would find it somewhat unlikely, at least to a certain extent. If it did, indeed, take place in the manner in which you're suggesting, it was perhaps due to the fact that many (most) of us began to be treated rather poorly over on that other site (I won't say by who, but suffice it to say that it wasn't by other members), and some of that bitterness and resentment may have followed with the migration from basically being forced from a site that many of us considered as "home". Having to come to (what we, at the time, considered as) a 'rival' site left many of us veterans that had been there for a very long time feeling somewhat vulnerable to being reverted back to "newbie" status again. Fortunately, that seems to have passed.

But....what the hell do I know?
ohwell



Well, I think most of them assimilated rather nicely from Day One -- the ones I think are gone are the ones who never broke out of the "old site" shell -- maybe they just never got comfortable here....?

From the things some of them told me about the other site, I can see why they might be a little gunshy going into a new place, but most of the ones I talked to were just regular JSHers within a week or two -- it was the small, standoffish batch that always sort of puzzled me....



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Fri 03/20/09 08:10 AM
Edited by buttons on Fri 03/20/09 08:24 AM
laugh laugh


I've seen this query posed a hundred times. A group of people become friends and form a type of "family" camaraderie, and suddenly they're pigeon-holed as a "clique". Using that scenario, wouldn't it be just as fair to say that the friends that the person who is complaining about the "cliques" hangs around with would also be categorized as a clique? Or are they just friends? What's the distinction?


I think it goes back to the issue of being willing to accept new people into one's circle. The true "cliques" simply refuse. Membership is closed, and there's no point trying to argue about it with them!

The worst example I've seen here was the truly incestuous, exclusionary, and insular clique of JSH "old-timers" who were already firmly entrenched when I got here (December of 2006). They would whine and moan endlessly about how JSH was no longer "their" site, how they didn't like the new people coming in -- it was as if they wanted the site to remain eternally at a few hundred people -- not the greatest business model, I'm thinking....

Thankfully, they all seem to have been wiped out by a meteor or something.

In spring of 2007, we had a mass migration of new people from another site, and a fair number of them absolutely refused to talk to anyone they didn't know from the old site.

I think they're all gone too, now....

The current cliques are smaller and less influential -- partly becaue there are so many more people here now, and partly because, well, the current cliques really don't have anything to say that's worth hearing. They're basically just dinosaurs waiting for fossilization.....
laugh laugh i remember that.. however after awhile the old timers gave in... i never considered myself a part of any that, however i never quit posting because of it, they became friendly to me.. i do have to say though lex we both are "old timers" but to say we are in a "old timer " group seems childish like. for we might be "old" we talk to new as well.

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Fri 03/20/09 08:37 AM

laugh laugh i remember that.. however after awhile the old timers gave in... i never considered myself a part of any that, however i never quit posting because of it, they became friendly to me.. i do have to say though lex we both are "old timers" but to say we are in a "old timer " group seems childish like. for we might be "old" we talk to new as well.


Just to show how "old" we both are here -- Buttons was my first friend on the site....!

And some of the people who were here before me are still here; but they were never the ones trying to eradicate all new people from the site!

I have never seen myself as part of a "clique," either -- it just seems so pointless -- if the reason for being here is to talk to people from all over, why wouldn't you just talk to people from all over?

And, sure, there are some I talk to more than others. That's just the natural progression of things. But you can have friends, without being rude and exclusionary to other people....!

But if I have learned one thing from the cliques, it's who not to bother with....and I suppose that knowledge is worth something....

Mr_Music's photo
Fri 03/20/09 08:40 AM
Knowledge is power!

(Schoolhouse Rock)
bigsmile

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Fri 03/20/09 08:42 AM
Like always the original poster posted, then pppppffffttttt!!! She was gone! Like hee haw.

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Fri 03/20/09 08:46 AM
EVERYONE SING IT!!! Where oh where were you last night? Why did you leave me here all alone? I searched the threads over cuz I thought I'd found true love, you met another......and ppppfffffftttt!!! You were gone!

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Fri 03/20/09 08:50 AM
Junior samples and minnie pearl shoulda got a grammy for that song.

buttons's photo
Fri 03/20/09 08:55 AM

EVERYONE SING IT!!! Where oh where were you last night? Why did you leave me here all alone? I searched the threads over cuz I thought I'd found true love, you met another......and ppppfffffftttt!!! You were gone!
rofl rofl rofl rofl

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Fri 03/20/09 08:55 AM
Who remembers the episode with john denver? The whole cast came out to spit on him. Pppppfffftttt!!! You were gone!