Topic: Why do you bother?
yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:38 PM



It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


i don't think it's meeting in th middle. i think it's more of how you look at things. i try to look at differences as a learning experience. no one can change others either way. even though i may not agree...i can learn new things about others

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:41 PM

And Dan, we share cause God's Love is in us now.....


we answer questions because we don't mind....

we share because we love you all.....

we share because we care.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



Why would you try share something with me that i dont want?

It actually offends me when people preach to me, i dont know why, it just does.

Nubby's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:44 PM
I am not meeting in the middle. I am 100% sure I am right. But there is still a chance I am wrong. If Christianity is not true I am done with it. My faith has only grown through the years as I study the truths of scripture.

no photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:47 PM



It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


Again....Mostly to answer questions.....and to share...cause we care.

But then there also comes a time when we are to move on ,too.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

But even then...if there still are questions....or people still not understanding....

we answer....and share ...again...because we care.:heart::heart::heart:



Nubby's photo
Thu 03/12/09 07:50 PM




It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


Again....Mostly to answer questions.....and to share...cause we care.

But then there also comes a time when we are to move on ,too.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

But even then...if there still are questions....or people still not understanding....

we answer....and share ...again...because we care.:heart::heart::heart:







I am born again.

no photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:07 PM





It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


Again....Mostly to answer questions.....and to share...cause we care.

But then there also comes a time when we are to move on ,too.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

But even then...if there still are questions....or people still not understanding....

we answer....and share ...again...because we care.:heart::heart::heart:







I am born again.


Good.flowerforyou

I hear the assertiveness now!!

That's what I mean Nubby......You KNOW!!!!drinker

You KNOW THAT YOU ARE BORN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!drinker

PRAISE GOD!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:12 PM






It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


Again....Mostly to answer questions.....and to share...cause we care.

But then there also comes a time when we are to move on ,too.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

But even then...if there still are questions....or people still not understanding....

we answer....and share ...again...because we care.:heart::heart::heart:







I am born again.


Good.flowerforyou

I hear the assertiveness now!!

That's what I mean Nubby......You KNOW!!!!drinker

You KNOW THAT YOU ARE BORN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!drinker

PRAISE GOD!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou


He also knows he might be wrong.

I KNOW that he is.


Nubby's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:20 PM







It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


Again....Mostly to answer questions.....and to share...cause we care.

But then there also comes a time when we are to move on ,too.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

But even then...if there still are questions....or people still not understanding....

we answer....and share ...again...because we care.:heart::heart::heart:







I am born again.


Good.flowerforyou

I hear the assertiveness now!!

That's what I mean Nubby......You KNOW!!!!drinker

You KNOW THAT YOU ARE BORN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!drinker

PRAISE GOD!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou


He also knows he might be wrong.

I KNOW that he is.




I am 100% sure I am right, but there is still possibility that I am wrong.

You know that I am wrong? You made a positive assertion. How do you know that I am wrong?

no photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:21 PM
Edited by MorningSong on Thu 03/12/09 08:24 PM
And I KNOW that the POWER of GOD is MORE THAN ABLE .....

to DRAW and TOUCH the HEART

of a SPECIAL YOUNG MAN in England one day....

and make him into one FINE example to the world ....

of what a christian should REALLY be like.drinker


flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

Abracadabra's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:22 PM


And Dan, we share cause God's Love is in us now.....


we answer questions because we don't mind....

we share because we love you all.....

we share because we care.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou



Why would you try share something with me that i dont want?

It actually offends me when people preach to me, i dont know why, it just does.


The reason it offends is because they are claiming that you're beliefs don't matter.

It's not "sharing" when a person tries to tell you that their religion is true, and yours is false. That's just downright insulting.

If people want to share they need to accept that the other person's beliefs are just as valid for that person.

Now THAT would be sharing.

Proselytizing is not sharing. It's just being downright ignorant and insulting. Especially when the proselytizer won't accept that the other person already has beliefs, and the proselytizer couldn't are less what they are (or would argue with them if they were told what they are).

Sharing would be like saying to someone, "My God died for me".

Then the other person would say, "Awe that's too bad. My God's still alive".

Now that's sharing. :wink:


yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:25 PM
i don't think it's about meeting in the middle. i think it's more of how you look at things. i try to look at differences as a learning experience. no one can change others either way. even though i may not agree...i can learn new things about others

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:25 PM
Edited by Dan99 on Thu 03/12/09 08:29 PM

And I KNOW that the POWER of GOD is MORE THAN ABLE .....

to DRAW and TOUCH the HEART

of a SPECIAL YOUNG MAN in England one day....

and MAKE him one FINE example to the world ....

of what a christian should REALLY be like.drinker


flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou


Now thats the sort of sh1t that offends me.

I am a fine example to the world as i am. I dont need to be saved or to be guided.

Sometimes i think its people like you that need the saving. You dont seem to have a grasp of reality.

Seamonster's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:26 PM








It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


Again....Mostly to answer questions.....and to share...cause we care.

But then there also comes a time when we are to move on ,too.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

But even then...if there still are questions....or people still not understanding....

we answer....and share ...again...because we care.:heart::heart::heart:







I am born again.


Good.flowerforyou

I hear the assertiveness now!!

That's what I mean Nubby......You KNOW!!!!drinker

You KNOW THAT YOU ARE BORN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!drinker

PRAISE GOD!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou


He also knows he might be wrong.

I KNOW that he is.




I am 100% sure I am right, but there is still possibility that I am wrong.

You know that I am wrong? You made a positive assertion. How do you know that I am wrong?


How can you be 100% sure you are right and then say there is a possibillity that you are wrong?
That realy does not make much sense.
I admit that I may be wrong.
I don't think I am but I could be.
I know the evidence leans toward me being right.

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:27 PM
Edited by Dan99 on Thu 03/12/09 08:30 PM








It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


Again....Mostly to answer questions.....and to share...cause we care.

But then there also comes a time when we are to move on ,too.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

But even then...if there still are questions....or people still not understanding....

we answer....and share ...again...because we care.:heart::heart::heart:







I am born again.


Good.flowerforyou

I hear the assertiveness now!!

That's what I mean Nubby......You KNOW!!!!drinker

You KNOW THAT YOU ARE BORN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!drinker

PRAISE GOD!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou


He also knows he might be wrong.

I KNOW that he is.




I am 100% sure I am right, but there is still possibility that I am wrong.

You know that I am wrong? You made a positive assertion. How do you know that I am wrong?


Actually, i havent paid a lot of attention in what exactly it is that you believe.

I dont know that there isnt a god. Im agnostic more than athiest.

But i KNOW that Christianity is wrong. Call it faith if you like.

(and my faith is as strong as anyone elses)

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:30 PM


IMO....in these forums....people express their beliefs. someone from all sides tell others that they are wrong.

Nubby's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:32 PM









It is possible i am wrong.
if I am right?
It means everything.



Nubby........a born again christian never ever will say, "it is possible that I am wrong."

And here is why.

A born again christian is now born of God!!!
His spirit is truly born again .

HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS THAT HE KNOWS HE IS BORN AGAIN....drinker

NO MORE QUESSING...NO MORE DOUBTS ...drinker

simply because GOD NOW HAS OPENED THAT BORN AGAIN CHRISTIAN'S SPIRITUAL EYES..

AND HAS GIVEN THAT CHRISTIAN A BRAND SPANKIN NEW SPIRIT WITH IN !!!drinker

Just like a person KNOWS beyond a shadow of doubt that he has been born of the FLESH into this world ........

so also does a spirit filled born again christian KNOW.....


beyond a shadow of doubt.....

that he has been BORN OF THE SPIRIT....or BORN OF GOD..or in other words...BORN AGAIN.

He KNOWS!!

NO DOUBTS WHATSOEVER...also because God's Spirit bears WITNESS with that born again person's spirit....

thus letting him KNOW.....

that he is TRULY BORN AGAIN!!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou:heart:drinker



You KNOW that what you feel and believe exists and is true.

I KNOW that you are totally mistaken.

How do we meet in the middle? Whats the point in talking any more about it?


Again....Mostly to answer questions.....and to share...cause we care.

But then there also comes a time when we are to move on ,too.flowerforyou:heart:flowerforyou

But even then...if there still are questions....or people still not understanding....

we answer....and share ...again...because we care.:heart::heart::heart:







I am born again.


Good.flowerforyou

I hear the assertiveness now!!

That's what I mean Nubby......You KNOW!!!!drinker

You KNOW THAT YOU ARE BORN AGAIN!!!!!!!!!drinker

PRAISE GOD!!!drinker:heart:flowerforyou


He also knows he might be wrong.

I KNOW that he is.




I am 100% sure I am right, but there is still possibility that I am wrong.

You know that I am wrong? You made a positive assertion. How do you know that I am wrong?


Actually, i havent paid a lot of attention in what exactly it is that you believe.

I dont know that there isnt a god. Im agnostic more than athiest.

But i KNOW that Christianity is wrong. Call it faith if you like.

(and my faith is as strong as anyone elses)


Have you investigated the resurrection?

Nubby's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:33 PM



IMO....in these forums....people express their beliefs. someone from all sides tell others that they are wrong.







I agree

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:33 PM



IMO....in these forums....people express their beliefs. someone from all sides tell others that they are wrong.


Yup, which leads back to the question, why do we bother?

yellowrose10's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:34 PM
just a question i'm asking out of curiousity....dan...why is it ok to tell christians they are wrong? that isn't any different than them telling you that you are wrong...is it?

Dan99's photo
Thu 03/12/09 08:35 PM

Have you investigated the resurrection?


Nope. Havent even read the bible. No need to.