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That's great you feel that way Morningsong.....when you find a really great pair of shoes, you tell your friends...and then you RESPECT them when they say, they like the shoes on you, but they aren't their style or taste for themselves. I'll walk a mile in your shoes, if you walk a mile in my bare feet.  
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Edited by
Filmfreek
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ok, this is an honest question. I keep hearing about Christians that proselytize. I hadn't heard this word until I started in these forums. But by definition...aren't most of the people doing just that in here as well? I don't really notice anyone trying to get anyone to convert or believe in any certain religion. I just see a lot of debating. maybe I'm seeing it different is why I asked. it's doesn't have to be a religion Yeah...I kinda see what you're saying. We have people from all sides trying to persuade the opposing sides point of view. Which is kind of like proselytizing...but not exactly. how not exactly? this is why I am asking From mirriam-webster... proselytize One entry found. Main Entry: pros·e·ly·tize Listen to the pronunciation of proselytize Pronunciation: \ˈprä-s(ə-)lə-ˌtīz\ Function: verb Inflected Form(s): pros·e·ly·tized; pros·e·ly·tiz·ing Date: 1679 intransitive verb 1 : to induce someone to convert to one's faith 2 : to recruit someone to join one's party, institution, or cause transitive verb : to recruit or convert especially to a new faith, institution, or cause — pros·e·ly·ti·za·tion Listen to the pronunciation of proselytization \ˌprä-s(ə-)lə-tə-ˈzā-shən, ˌprä-sə-ˌlī-tə-\ noun — pros·e·ly·tiz·er Listen to the pronunciation of proselytizer \ˈprä-s(ə-)lə-ˌtī-zər\ noun I guess I misread the definition the first time. It looks like it IS the same thing. "To induce someone to convert to one's faith". I don't think anyone is deliberatly doing it here in this forum though...however it may appear. I don't see the atheists saying to christians.... "Hey....your religion is false. Give up your faith, and become an atheist." |
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Edited by
yellowrose10
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Thu 03/26/09 04:03 PM
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film...no but I do see alot of bashing beliefs and insults and telling people they are wrong for their beliefs. and it's constant (from all sides)
not to mention....am I the only one that has read the rules? |
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Edited by
Jess642
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Thu 03/26/09 04:07 PM
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I just love how a hypothetical question can create so much dialogue...
...and emotion....( myself included). It's a bit of an eyeopener. |
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maybe I'm seeing it different is why I asked. it's doesn't have to be a religion From my point of view it's like a vacuum cleaner salesman. The salesman says, "You gotta have this vacuum cleaner!" The witch says, "I already have a broom thank you" Salesman: A broom won't clean, you need a vacuum cleaner! Witch: My broom works very well thank you. Salesman: It won't suck up the dust! Witch: I don't have any dust. Salesman: All men are born with dust! No man is without dust! Witch: Fine. I don't mind the dust. Salesman: You have to get rid of the dust or the Dust Bunny won't like you! Witch: The Dust Bunny likes me just fine. Salesman: No he doesn't! You need a vacuum cleaner! Witch: Alright, alright. So how to you run this thing? Salesman: Well first you need to READ the manual and then plug it in. :The witch reads the manual: Witch: I don't see in the manual where it says anything about plugging it in. Salesman: You have to plug it in! :Finally the witch figures out that it's battery operated: Witch: It needs batteries, it won't run without them. Salesman: It doesn't need batteries, it's a plug in vac! :The witch reads the manual further: Witch: Nope, it needs batteries, it's right here in YOUR manual! Salesman: No! I'm telling you that it's a plug in vacuum. Witch: Fine. :the witch turns on the switch: Witch: Well it doesn't work. Salesman: I'm telling you this vacuum really SUCKS! Witch: It sure does. Salesman: Then you AGREE with me! Hallelujah brother! Witch: No, I meant it sucks in a bad way. Actually it doesn't suck at all. Salesman: I'm telling you it's sucks! Witch: Well it won't suck for me. Salesman: You don't have enough FAITH! Witch: What's faith got to do with it. My broom works very well. Salesman: You have to have faith that it sucks. Witch: Well I think it's just a dead vacuum cleaner. It died a long time ago apparently. Salesman: It's coming back! The manual promised! :the witch reads the manual again: Witch: Nope, it says right in YOUR manual that it can't be recharged it has to be used within the current generation. Salesman: But you have to have FAITH! I'm telling you it sucks! Witch: I think I'll just stick with my broom if that's alright with you. |
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film...no but I do see alot of bashing beliefs and insults and telling people they are wrong for their beliefs. and it's constant (from all sides) not to mention....am I the only one that has read the rules? I have read the rules and I try to follow them. I have noticed a few familiar faces in these forums missing as of late. I'm assuming they were banned due to personal attacks and insults...and for bashing. And yes...I still see it going on sometimes...but that is for the mods to deal with. |
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film...no but I do see alot of bashing beliefs and insults and telling people they are wrong for their beliefs. and it's constant (from all sides) not to mention....am I the only one that has read the rules? I have read the rules and I try to follow them. I have noticed a few familiar faces in these forums missing as of late. I'm assuming they were banned due to personal attacks and insults...and for bashing. And yes...I still see it going on sometimes...but that is for the mods to deal with. it is on all sides and sad that adults have to be baby sat ... but that's my opinion 
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maybe I'm seeing it different is why I asked. it's doesn't have to be a religion From my point of view it's like a vacuum cleaner salesman. The salesman says, "You gotta have this vacuum cleaner!" The witch says, "I already have a broom thank you" Salesman: A broom won't clean, you need a vacuum cleaner! Witch: My broom works very well thank you. Salesman: It won't suck up the dust! Witch: I don't have any dust. Salesman: All men are born with dust! No man is without dust! Witch: Fine. I don't mind the dust. Salesman: You have to get rid of the dust or the Dust Bunny won't like you! Witch: The Dust Bunny likes me just fine. Salesman: No he doesn't! You need a vacuum cleaner! Witch: Alright, alright. So how to you run this thing? Salesman: Well first you need to READ the manual and then plug it in. :The witch reads the manual: Witch: I don't see in the manual where it says anything about plugging it in. Salesman: You have to plug it in! :Finally the witch figures out that it's battery operated: Witch: It needs batteries, it won't run without them. Salesman: It doesn't need batteries, it's a plug in vac! :The witch reads the manual further: Witch: Nope, it needs batteries, it's right here in YOUR manual! Salesman: No! I'm telling you that it's a plug in vacuum. Witch: Fine. :the witch turns on the switch: Witch: Well it doesn't work. Salesman: I'm telling you this vacuum really SUCKS! Witch: It sure does. Salesman: Then you AGREE with me! Hallelujah brother! Witch: No, I meant it sucks in a bad way. Actually it doesn't suck at all. Salesman: I'm telling you it's sucks! Witch: Well it won't suck for me. Salesman: You don't have enough FAITH! Witch: What's faith got to do with it. My broom works very well. Salesman: You have to have faith that it sucks. Witch: Well I think it's just a dead vacuum cleaner. It died a long time ago apparently. Salesman: It's coming back! The manual promised! :the witch reads the manual again: Witch: Nope, it says right in YOUR manual that it can't be recharged it has to be used within the current generation. Salesman: But you have to have FAITH! I'm telling you it sucks! Witch: I think I'll just stick with my broom if that's alright with you. LONG LIVE THE DUST BUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 03/26/09 04:34 PM
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Morning song said, in blue: BUT...CHRIST COMING BACK TO THEM ...AS THE COMFORTER .......
IS NOT NOT NOT REFERRING TO THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST....WHICH IS STILL TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND BTW, NO MAN KNOWS THE HOUR...NO MAN..... WHEN CHRIST HIMSELF SHALL RETURN. NO MAN!!!!!!!! THAT EVENT IS STILL TO COME!!!!! Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus himself (not just "the Christ") will return sometime in the future? 
http://www.globaloutreach-ministries.org/teaching_articles/01_readyornot.html " But of that day and hour knoweth NO man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. "(Matt. 24:36)
" WATCH therefore, for ye know NEITHER THE DAY NOR THE HOUR wherein the Son of man COMETH." (Matt. 25:13)
"....If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME upon thee."
(Rev. 3:3)
" therefore be ye also READY: for in such an hour as ye THINK NOT the son of man cometh." (Matt. 24:44)
" And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALLLLLL THE WORLD for a WITNESS unto ALLLLL THE NATIONS;
and THEN shall the END come."(Matt. 24:14)
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film...no but I do see alot of bashing beliefs and insults and telling people they are wrong for their beliefs. and it's constant (from all sides) not to mention....am I the only one that has read the rules? People are just sharing here ,Yellowrose.... no one here is bashing or insulting anyone here anymore... at least, not that I can see....
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maybe I'm seeing it different is why I asked. it's doesn't have to be a religion From my point of view it's like a vacuum cleaner salesman. The salesman says, "You gotta have this vacuum cleaner!" The witch says, "I already have a broom thank you" Salesman: A broom won't clean, you need a vacuum cleaner! Witch: My broom works very well thank you. Salesman: It won't suck up the dust! Witch: I don't have any dust. Salesman: All men are born with dust! No man is without dust! Witch: Fine. I don't mind the dust. Salesman: You have to get rid of the dust or the Dust Bunny won't like you! Witch: The Dust Bunny likes me just fine. Salesman: No he doesn't! You need a vacuum cleaner! Witch: Alright, alright. So how to you run this thing? Salesman: Well first you need to READ the manual and then plug it in. :The witch reads the manual: Witch: I don't see in the manual where it says anything about plugging it in. Salesman: You have to plug it in! :Finally the witch figures out that it's battery operated: Witch: It needs batteries, it won't run without them. Salesman: It doesn't need batteries, it's a plug in vac! :The witch reads the manual further: Witch: Nope, it needs batteries, it's right here in YOUR manual! Salesman: No! I'm telling you that it's a plug in vacuum. Witch: Fine. :the witch turns on the switch: Witch: Well it doesn't work. Salesman: I'm telling you this vacuum really SUCKS! Witch: It sure does. Salesman: Then you AGREE with me! Hallelujah brother! Witch: No, I meant it sucks in a bad way. Actually it doesn't suck at all. Salesman: I'm telling you it's sucks! Witch: Well it won't suck for me. Salesman: You don't have enough FAITH! Witch: What's faith got to do with it. My broom works very well. Salesman: You have to have faith that it sucks. Witch: Well I think it's just a dead vacuum cleaner. It died a long time ago apparently. Salesman: It's coming back! The manual promised! :the witch reads the manual again: Witch: Nope, it says right in YOUR manual that it can't be recharged it has to be used within the current generation. Salesman: But you have to have FAITH! I'm telling you it sucks! Witch: I think I'll just stick with my broom if that's alright with you. LONG LIVE THE DUST BUNNY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
abra abra i do tip, hit the screw on the lip, and twisted the tip, the flow let er rip, straight from the hip, a cup and a sip, a mug full o lo gic, gum smackin and tastee lip, pour er out slow and hip, don't spill drop, not even a drip... lol... awesome |
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That's great you feel that way Morningsong.....when you find a really great pair of shoes, you tell your friends...and then you RESPECT them when they say, they like the shoes on you, but they aren't their style or taste for themselves. I'll walk a mile in your shoes, if you walk a mile in my bare feet.
damn...that was awesome!!! lol... great logic... very cool |
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I just love how a hypothetical question can create so much dialogue... ...and emotion....( myself included). It's a bit of an eyeopener. yea yea, way cool, open eye's are super cool indeed... awesome see'in folks talkin so much... god, what we would do without pc's, lol... ditto's |
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film...no but I do see alot of bashing beliefs and insults and telling people they are wrong for their beliefs. and it's constant (from all sides) not to mention....am I the only one that has read the rules? I have read the rules and I try to follow them. I have noticed a few familiar faces in these forums missing as of late. I'm assuming they were banned due to personal attacks and insults...and for bashing. And yes...I still see it going on sometimes...but that is for the mods to deal with. it is on all sides and sad that adults have to be baby sat ... but that's my opinion
hey!!! what ya talkin bout, lol... i don't call this baby sat??? nothing wrong with anything here??? you see some bad??? where's the bad??? quick, i don't wanna get bit by the bad bug, lol... hey, everybody and everything has to have it's "rules of engagement", lol... not one word here would be said in my house, and have gotten a frown, lol... freedom is how the eye's see, and bad is what the eye's decide to interpret as bad, lol... bring it on baby, lol... peace and long live the ditto's!!! |
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film...no but I do see alot of bashing beliefs and insults and telling people they are wrong for their beliefs. and it's constant (from all sides) not to mention....am I the only one that has read the rules? I have read the rules and I try to follow them. I have noticed a few familiar faces in these forums missing as of late. I'm assuming they were banned due to personal attacks and insults...and for bashing. And yes...I still see it going on sometimes...but that is for the mods to deal with. lolololo... your devil messiah here 
did you ring film??? lol... peace man, it's all good and i support film for president of well manner and good manner's, lol... peace man 
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Morning song said, in blue: BUT...CHRIST COMING BACK TO THEM ...AS THE COMFORTER .......
IS NOT NOT NOT REFERRING TO THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST....WHICH IS STILL TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND BTW, NO MAN KNOWS THE HOUR...NO MAN..... WHEN CHRIST HIMSELF SHALL RETURN. NO MAN!!!!!!!! THAT EVENT IS STILL TO COME!!!!! Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus himself (not just "the Christ") will return sometime in the future? " But of that day and hour knoweth NO man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. "(Matt. 24:36)
" WATCH therefore, for ye know NEITHER THE DAY NOR THE HOUR wherein the Son of man COMETH." (Matt. 25:13)
"....If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME upon thee."
(Rev. 3:3)
" therefore be ye also READY: for in such an hour as ye THINK NOT the son of man cometh." (Matt. 24:44)
" And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALLLLLL THE WORLD for a WITNESS unto ALLLLL THE NATIONS;
and THEN shall the END come."(Matt. 24:14)
None of this scripture actually mentions "JESUS." It also calls this person the "son of man" which I was always curious about. I though Jesus was the "son of God." So why do people think that Jesus.. himself.. is going to return? |
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wide eye's do stare, and cut thru the glare, all ye are gods smother fear's flare and stop the fear blare, muzzle the shizzle and quell all the drizzle, break forth the quell and the pen dry up hell, equalize the spell and abate all the hate, all things as equal be the tell real life sequal.
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Morning song said, in blue: BUT...CHRIST COMING BACK TO THEM ...AS THE COMFORTER .......
IS NOT NOT NOT REFERRING TO THE SECOND COMING OF CHRIST....WHICH IS STILL TO COME!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AND BTW, NO MAN KNOWS THE HOUR...NO MAN..... WHEN CHRIST HIMSELF SHALL RETURN. NO MAN!!!!!!!! THAT EVENT IS STILL TO COME!!!!! Where in the Bible does it say that Jesus himself (not just "the Christ") will return sometime in the future? " But of that day and hour knoweth NO man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only. "(Matt. 24:36)
" WATCH therefore, for ye know NEITHER THE DAY NOR THE HOUR wherein the Son of man COMETH." (Matt. 25:13)
"....If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt NOT KNOW WHAT HOUR I WILL COME upon thee."
(Rev. 3:3)
" therefore be ye also READY: for in such an hour as ye THINK NOT the son of man cometh." (Matt. 24:44)
" And this Gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in ALLLLLL THE WORLD for a WITNESS unto ALLLLL THE NATIONS;
and THEN shall the END come."(Matt. 24:14)
None of this scripture actually mentions "JESUS." It also calls this person the "son of man" which I was always curious about. I though Jesus was the "son of God." So why do people think that Jesus.. himself.. is going to return? Jeannie...read All of Matthew ,chapters 24 and 25....starting with verse one......... notice the words in red that were spoken by Jesus. Reading the WHOLE chapter usually makes things much more clearer. Also , I think this will help : http://christiananswers.net/q-eden/son-of-man.html
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Thu 03/26/09 09:10 PM
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oh come to the cross and bow and weep, come beg me to spare you your soul to keep, you know if you don't i'll send you to hell, well me and ole hilter has a good laugh for a spell, so say your sorry to me and bow on one knee, or i will smash you smite you and smote oh thee, oh believe the fear or i'll make you cry and tear, don't you see it is real love unconditional love so fare, believe on my name or savage beast i'll feed you to, sing and praise me or you i will subdue, why protect and gaurd and seek to preserve your own life, put your money in the slot and your sins be forgot, and never oh never lay down this belief for a friend, for this would not please me as i am jealous and to be your only greatest friend, i am the great dictator so hear me roar, follow me and i'll drown the others and make you soar, but i am surely not the equal just human hand, of the story that wrote in the sand.
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