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Topic: States declaring and reaffirming their sovereignty
willing2's photo
Mon 02/23/09 11:21 AM
The State of Washington on Wednesday - 11 February 2009 and most recently, New Hampshire [2009], Montana [2009], Hawaii [2009], Michigan [2009], Missouri [2009], Arizona [2008], Oklahoma [2008], Georgia [1996], and California [1994] all of which have introduced bills and resolutions declaring and reaffirming their sovereignty. Some other states have done this in the past but then let the issue go. Additionally, the states of Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are considering similar measures. More well may follow, such as Wyoming and Mississippi.

http://www.opednews.com/articles/Firestorm-Brewing-Between-by-La nce-L-Landon-090217-130.html


nogames39's photo
Mon 02/23/09 11:27 AM
Why? What do they know already, that is coming, that they are not telling us?

willing2's photo
Mon 02/23/09 11:53 AM
I suppose, they are realizing Obamanizm ain't the way to go.
States rights are the people’s last line of defense against this despotic regime and the Obamunist know it. The 10th amendment hangs by a thread with Obama's reinfringement act. Our constitution is an object of antipathy for these hooligans and it shows in every aspect of their sinister agenda whether it’s the 1st amendment the 2nd amendment or any other article in the constitution it is all just a barrier to them having absolute control over every aspect of our life from cradle too grave and perhaps even after that if they could. This ostentatious slaughter on the autonomy of the American population is occurring at such break neck speed it’s as if it’s been in the works for quite sometime now (no surprises there). The American principals of capitalism are being flushed down the toilet right along with our liberties and freedoms. Our individualism is being replaced by collectivism more and more with every passing day and eventually no uniqueness will exists, only insipidity and banality. The hard line Marxist will never give up their sedition, their edict is to persist in our abolition until they have annihilated any resolve present in anyone to resist their coercion.

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Mon 02/23/09 11:57 AM
what about the lone star state????

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Mon 02/23/09 12:10 PM
I can't find the news story where I originally read this but some state legislators in Texas, led by Crieghton fom Conroe, are pushing a bill through that calls for a recognition of sovergeignty from the the Federal government under 9th and 10th amendment protection.

It can be read here: http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/81R/billtext/pdf/HC00050I.pdf

The really good part is the last paragraph.
RESOLVED, That the Texas secretary of state forward official
copies of this resolution to the president of the United States, to
the speaker of the house of representatives and the president of the
senate of the United States Congress, and to all the members of the Texas delegation to the congress with the request that this
resolution be officially entered in the Congressional Record as a
memorial to the Congress of the United States of America.

willing2's photo
Mon 02/23/09 12:13 PM
Edited by willing2 on Mon 02/23/09 12:13 PM

what about the lone star state????

Yes'm.

Here is the article.


Texas Representatives Introduce Resolution Asserting Sovereignty Under Tenth Amendment

Infowars
February 19, 2009

Texas has joined the states’ right and Tenth Amendment movement by introducing House Concurrent Resolution No. 50, filed earlier this week by Republican state representatives Leo Berman, Brandon Creighton, and Bryan Hughes. H.C.R. 50 cites Section 4, Article IV, of the Constitution, the Tenth Amendment, and the Ninth Amendment.
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Texas Rep. Leo Berman joins Alex Jones to talk about the H.C.R. 50 and states’ rights on Friday, February 20.
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“The Tenth Amendment assures that we, the people of the United States of America and each sovereign state in the Union of States, now have, and have always had, rights the federal government may not usurp,” the resolution declares, while “Section 4, Article IV, of the Constitution says, ‘The United States shall guarantee to every State in this Union a Republican Form of Government,’ and the Ninth Amendment states that ‘The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.’”

A number of proposals from previous administrations and some now pending from the present administration and from congress may further violate the Constitution of the United States; now, therefore, be it RESOLVED, That the 81st Legislature of the State of Texas hereby claim sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment to the Constitution of the United States over all powers not otherwise enumerated and granted to the federal government by the Constitution of the United States…


H.C.R. 50 serves “as notice and demand to the federal government, as our agent, to cease and desist, effective immediately, mandates that are beyond the scope of these constitutionally delegated powers” and that “all compulsory federal legislation that directs states to comply under threat of civil or criminal penalties or sanctions or that requires states to pass legislation or lose federal funding be prohibited or repealed.”

Finally, the resolution directs the Texas secretary of state to forward official copies of the resolution to president Obama, Speaker of the House Pelosi, the president of the Senate, Joe Biden, and all members of the Texas delegation to the Congress. In addition, there is an official request that the resolution be entered in the Congressional Record as a “memorial to the Congress of the United States of America.”

Texas joins Washington, New Hampshire, Arizona, Montana, Michigan, Missouri, Oklahoma, California, and Georgia, states that have all introduced bills and resolutions declaring sovereignty under the Tenth Amendment. Colorado, Hawaii, Pennsylvania, Arkansas, Idaho, Indiana, Alaska, Kansas, Alabama, Nevada, Maine, and Illinois are also considering such measures.

“While the ramifications of these resolutions are still uncertain, one thing is clear,” writes Barbara Minton. “People are sick and tired of the federal government’s usurpation of power not granted to it by the Constitution. They have had enough of fear based economic terrorism and underhanded promotion of policies and procedures that bypass public scrutiny and the will of the people.”

It should be noted that a resolution is a statement and not law and does not necessarily represent a consensus of a state legislature. “Still, the fact that two states, California and Georgia, have already passed their versions of state sovereignty may be setting the stage for secession down the road if the federal government continues to show its scorn for the Constitution. The Oklahoma resolution has already passed in the House and is awaiting vote in the state Senate to be codified,” writes Minton.

For more information on the Tenth Amendment and states’s right movement, see this Infowars resource page on the subject.

As should be expected, the corporate media has all but ignored H.C.R. 50, while Vince Leibowitz of Dallas-based Pegasus News calls the resolution “bizarre” and intimates that Berman, Creighton, and Hughes are insane. Leibowitz’s comments are a sad testament on how out of touch many Americans are when it comes to the Constitution and the increasing encroachments of the federal government.

On Friday, February 20, Rep. Leo Berman of District 6 will be on the Alex Jones Show to talk about the resolution and states’ rights.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 02/23/09 12:22 PM
woo hoo!!!!! kidding

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Mon 02/23/09 04:02 PM
Now, I see there was another posting on Texas and the 10th Amendment.
Senior moment there.
This post includes the rest of the States so far, who wish not to Obamatized.

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Mon 02/23/09 04:16 PM
Edited by Dragoness on Mon 02/23/09 04:18 PM
Is this over the Beck suggestion? He is not correct on his consititutional laws but lets say a state successfully seceded from the Union.

First off, they lose their American Citizenship on the spot. So they cannot move state to state legally. Nor access any public benefits as the aliens face now. Their little country would be completely surrounded by the US and would have to trade with the US for needs. Their little military and police force would be all they had to protect themselves from terrorists or possible "claim" jumpers.

So I guess, if that is what they want, I see no problem with it, I just hope they give citizens that do not want to lose their citizenship and all, time to consider moving out before all hell breaks lose in their little state.

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Mon 02/23/09 04:27 PM

Is this over the Beck suggestion? He is not correct on his consititutional laws but lets say a state successfully seceded from the Union.

First off, they lose their American Citizenship on the spot. So they cannot move state to state legally. Nor access any public benefits as the aliens face now. Their little country would be completely surrounded by the US and would have to trade with the US for needs. Their little military and police force would be all they had to protect themselves from terrorists or possible "claim" jumpers.

So I guess, if that is what they want, I see no problem with it, I just hope they give citizens that do not want to lose their citizenship and all, time to consider moving out before all hell breaks lose in their little state.


the issue isn't over secession.. no one is seceeding (yet).. the states are just sick of being bullied by a repressive federal government. it's about the 10th amendment and the States' asserting their right to sovergienty.

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Mon 02/23/09 04:30 PM


Is this over the Beck suggestion? He is not correct on his consititutional laws but lets say a state successfully seceded from the Union.

First off, they lose their American Citizenship on the spot. So they cannot move state to state legally. Nor access any public benefits as the aliens face now. Their little country would be completely surrounded by the US and would have to trade with the US for needs. Their little military and police force would be all they had to protect themselves from terrorists or possible "claim" jumpers.

So I guess, if that is what they want, I see no problem with it, I just hope they give citizens that do not want to lose their citizenship and all, time to consider moving out before all hell breaks lose in their little state.


the issue isn't over secession.. no one is seceeding (yet).. the states are just sick of being bullied by a repressive federal government. it's about the 10th amendment and the States' asserting their right to sovergienty.


It's not? I thought for sure that was what I read.

Hey if they do not want to be US citizens anymore and think that they have a better plan to implement in their little country, more power to them I say.

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Mon 02/23/09 04:34 PM
Just have to follow this, See how many other States decide to do the same and disassociate from O'bama.

catwoman96's photo
Mon 02/23/09 04:38 PM
i live in IN..hmmmmmm


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Mon 02/23/09 04:39 PM
Isn't the media blackout of this amazing? This is HUGE news. If this doesn't prove to people the absolute ownership of the media by the elite frustrated .

NPR is doing their stupid pledge drive right now in MN, begging for money. Public my ass!yawn They are owned just like everyone else is!

One of the few places talking about it, other than shortwave and internet: coast to coast am. The need for alternative media is greater than ever and essential for a free republic. I forget the Jefferson quote.
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Recap
State Sovereignty

Alternative media activist Alex Jones spoke about the issue of state sovereignty-- over 20 states have passed or proposed resolutions to maintain the 10th Amendment which asserts states' rights not expressly delegated to the federal government. Specifically, he said the US govt. had become intrusive to individual states in their policies on such issues as medical marijuana, home schooling, and gun control. Appearing during the latter half of the show, author Jerome Corsi said we were witnessing the beginning of a new movement sweeping the country with states fed up with the federal level of fiscal irresponsibility.

Joining the show in brief segments were Representatives Matt Shea, Jim Guest, Dan Itse, & Charles Key who described sovereignty efforts in their home states. Shea of Washington state, said they were sending a message, telling the Feds to back off. Jim Guest of Missouri cited the Real I.D. act as being particularly problematic.

Jones suggested the union was already gone and that America has been sold out to foreign banks. States have the right to dissolve the federal government in order to reconstitute it, he added. Both Corsi and Jones pointed toward a non-democratic globalist effort they believe is stealthily moving ahead with its plan for a world government/economy.

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Mon 02/23/09 04:40 PM

Just have to follow this, See how many other States decide to do the same and disassociate from O'bama.


I have to say I think this issue is racial and my reasoning for this is that all who hated Bush did not talk of secession, they were still proud to be Americans, just did not like Bush at all.

There is one exception to this and that was Todd Palin who wanted Alaska to secede, he did not want to be an American anymore.

So those who hated Bush do not think of not being Americans anymore but those who have an issue with Obama want to secede and not be Americans anymore, hmmmmmmm I have to wonder.......

Sure they cover with the "policies" talk but it goes deeper than that because they don't want to be US citizens anymore.

My opinion of course.

yellowrose10's photo
Mon 02/23/09 04:42 PM
?????? how is this racial??? AND for the record....there was a guy from Hawaii back when this was justsayhi that claimed they wanted out

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Mon 02/23/09 04:46 PM

?????? how is this racial??? AND for the record....there was a guy from Hawaii back when this was justsayhi that claimed they wanted out


How else can it be explained? I disliked Bush to the max, but I was proud to be American still. I would not have talked of not becoming an American citizen because of him. People hated Clinton for much of the same "policies" of Obama but noone talked of secession.

It is just coincidence you say then? Strange coincidence, I say.

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Mon 02/23/09 04:50 PM


?????? how is this racial??? AND for the record....there was a guy from Hawaii back when this was justsayhi that claimed they wanted out


How else can it be explained? I disliked Bush to the max, but I was proud to be American still. I would not have talked of not becoming an American citizen because of him. People hated Clinton for much of the same "policies" of Obama but noone talked of secession.

It is just coincidence you say then? Strange coincidence, I say.


people talked about it in here during Bush...come on
just because someone doesn't like Obama they are racist????? wow that's a stretch

i told the guy from Hawaii the same thing you do...i told him good luck and don't expect america to bail you out

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Mon 02/23/09 04:54 PM



?????? how is this racial??? AND for the record....there was a guy from Hawaii back when this was justsayhi that claimed they wanted out


How else can it be explained? I disliked Bush to the max, but I was proud to be American still. I would not have talked of not becoming an American citizen because of him. People hated Clinton for much of the same "policies" of Obama but noone talked of secession.

It is just coincidence you say then? Strange coincidence, I say.


people talked about it in here during Bush...come on
just because someone doesn't like Obama they are racist????? wow that's a stretch

i told the guy from Hawaii the same thing you do...i told him good luck and don't expect america to bail you out


Understood about the guy. But is it not strange that this is coming up in the face of the first black president? Bush took this country down the toilet literally and no talk like this and now suddenly American citizens want to be out of the Union? Drastic and severe don't ya think? Fueled by hatred, I bet.

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Mon 02/23/09 04:57 PM




?????? how is this racial??? AND for the record....there was a guy from Hawaii back when this was justsayhi that claimed they wanted out


How else can it be explained? I disliked Bush to the max, but I was proud to be American still. I would not have talked of not becoming an American citizen because of him. People hated Clinton for much of the same "policies" of Obama but noone talked of secession.

It is just coincidence you say then? Strange coincidence, I say.


people talked about it in here during Bush...come on
just because someone doesn't like Obama they are racist????? wow that's a stretch

i told the guy from Hawaii the same thing you do...i told him good luck and don't expect america to bail you out


Understood about the guy. But is it not strange that this is coming up in the face of the first black president? Bush took this country down the toilet literally and no talk like this and now suddenly American citizens want to be out of the Union? Drastic and severe don't ya think? Fueled by hatred, I bet.


so you ASSUME they have to be racist???? what if the people aren't white and want to discuss leaving???? seriously listen to yourself. you assume way too much

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