This is what the Roman Catholics believe and many other religious groups or denominations. They simply feel that god (or something or other) utilized biological evolution as a means of "bringing life forth from the earth."

I have no problem with that. That makes perfect sense and if it helps some people to rationalize then have at it. That "evolution business" has been manifest for quite some time. Even though evolution is taking place all around us, for many species the process operates so slowly that it is not observable except over thousands or hundreds of thousands of years. I dont mind if someone wants to throw in a ID concept like a seasoning in soup. Who cares, as they say.

No I'm not.

I'm simply stating what I feel.

If you don't like it, that's your choice... too bad.

"JennieBean" ...you started a thread asking others to explain their beliefs logically but yet you refuse to explain your belief logically ..er... isn't that illogical

What belief of mine are you talking about Funches? My beliefs are very logical. Scientific in fact. And very reasonable I believe.

No, I am referring specifically to the logic of evolution as compared to the logic of a deity forming a man out of clay and breathing life into it.

I am not asking others to "explain their beliefs logically." I am asking them to use their imagination and see if they can come up with a solution as to HOW God actually accomplished the creation as told in the Bible.

This is a very specific question.

"JennieBean" ..you telling me that

"I'm simply stating what I feel and If I don't like it, that's my choice... too bad." ..

is clearly not a scientific nor a logical explanation of your beliefs but yet you expect if from others

The thread topic had died, I had to do something.

Actually I don't expect anything from others.

I was hoping someone had an imagination, but alas, nope, no one seems to.

The Christian creation mythology is no different than any other creation myth. Its just as mystical and strange so Im not really sure what the difference is. There is none that I can detect. It would be like attempting to explain how the Lego people build their own villages in the living room.

A agree Krimsa. I am trying to understand why some people will declare that evolution is "not logical" and yet claim that the Bible is to be believed.

But in all honesty, I don't think most Christians really truly believe that stuff. They are just too afraid to admit it. Perhaps they are afraid to get kicked out of the club.

well heck in that case I will take this opportunity to explain the christian faith logically

it started after Jesus was placed in the tomb but unbenonce to anyone it was actually a time warp that teleported Jesus back to(in the beginning) of time where it appears that a (great flood) had taken place recently

as Jesus walked around in a daze for a couple of days hungry and thristy until he fermented some of the undrinkable (water into wine) and as he feasted upon the dead carrion from the flood there was (the word) (and the word was Godga)

jesus followed the word and he found what appeared to be the last two neanderthal looking people unconscious in a mud pit moaning godga and Jesus removed the female off of the (man's rib) cage and then Jesus breath air into them and when they woke up they saw a blue eyed blond hair guy and said (yahweh yipee)

Jesus kept repeating that his name was Jesus but the two neanderthals kept saying Yahweh yipee which meant that he looked like a (holy ghost)..so Jesus got fed up and said ..Jeezz got dam ..which lead to him naming the two neanderthals (gotadam and Jeeves) which today means adam and eve

so that's explains how Jesus was God how the trinity was form and how he breathed life into the human race from mud

Bravo, pretty good story. I like the time travel part.

So was Funches the only one who even had an idea to express? Everyone else seems to feel that "It doesnt matter" or "who cares." That doesn't say a whole lot about the creativity of Christians where their god is concerned now does it?

First, people don't know he's omnipotent. People claim they know, but in reality, they believe. ^_^

Second, if you like, then yes, "Life is but a dream."
However, that is not at all what I was suggesting. I said exactly what I meant. God conjured us out of nothingness with but a thought.

And I do feel that this describes exactly HOW God created us. He thought, "Let there be THIS!" and there was THIS. Tada, that simple. Further specification is irrelevant because no further specification is necessary or possible: As he thought, so it was!

You have an interesting idea though: For a being as powerful as God, perhaps a dream or thought in the mind of God is complex enough that the characters of his dream have their own sentience and free-will. Interesting thought, isn't it?

Personally, I think a giant, intergalactic robot created us. He did it after millenia of cruising about the galaxy chillin' with his homies. His homies were various species that he met up with. Some were sentient, some were not - meaning some were like us in intelligence, and others were like dogs or cats or what have you, except these beings were his homies, not his pets.

Yeah, so one day he sees this ball of rock and says, "Man, I want to make some life!"
So, he sits and he thinks. Finally, he decides on a method: creates the necessary atoms required for life, puts them in a certain area of the earth, and hits the place with electricity until RNA molecules form. The robot cares for the environmental state of the Earth, carefully changing our solar system about so as to create deterrents to asteroids, to create ample warmth, etc. Constantly, he watches the evolution of RNA into single-celled organisms into multi-celled organisms, etc. Finally, there are humans, and whenever we are almost extinct, he steps in a little to push us in the right direction.
Finally, when he saw that we were doing so-so not to bad on our own, he ups and leaves. That was around 200 AD. In his travels through the galaxy, he every once in a while wonders if those beings he saw evolve will still be alive the next time he visits, or if they'll have gone extinct or migrated to some other planet?

The End.

I think that makes more sense than GOD, so I'll go with it. Anyway, what should I call my new religion, guys?

God after being convicted by the titans of the war crimes (want and need)was banish to the realm of eternity in which things exist but no conscious thought or "free Will" could form thus rendering God powerless

in the realm of eternity events would only take place through happenstance and circumstance but with God being stain with the presence of want and need upset the fabric of eternity and lead to the formation of the one singularity

the concentrated force of all unconscious eternity forming into one mass cause an explosion and a big bang so powerful that it popped God out of eternity and into the realm of the third dimension but encase in a substance called energy in which he once again regain his conscious thoughts and said "I AM"

within this realm of energy and with the stain of want and need God over eons learned how to alter the substance of energy into any shape form or fashion, a process called reality

God having thoughts of revenge for the Titans created creatures called angels to serve him and created creatures in the images of the Titans called human in which he was going to take his anger out on because of what the Titan did to him

one angel named Satan found out this plot and decided to warn the humans by getting the two human protypes named Adam and Eve to access the information on how to fight God in the form of technology but the humans were slow learners and so Satan and some angels had to go into battle with God to give the humans the time they needed to learn this process called technology

Satan and his legion were no match for God and his forces so they escaped to the safety of an energy fortess called Hell in which they plan to regroup and go to war against the forces of God in a battle code named armengeddon

God wanting to express his distain for the Titans created and placed the protypes adam and eve on a place called Earth where God meant to carry out his plans of torture againt these Titan look-a-likes

but God also had to perpare for the war against Satan and because Satan have taken 1/3 or the angels God needed more troops and decided to use humans but first he had to train them to follow only him and devised a way to trick them to do so ...so he decided to send one of his hitmen called Jesus to perform this mission and thus Christianity was born ....the enlistment of humans for the war called armengeddon

Funches said:



Thats a great idea for a new thread I think. Putting Yahweh on trial for crimes against humanity. The Christians will represent him as his counsel and the "non-believers" the prosecution.

that's is a good idea, it would challenge everything from faith, Miracles to the Old and New Testament

in fact I'm not even sure a Christian because of their faith is even allowed to represent God because according to their faith the Titans couldn't be above God so if God did ask for a christian to represent him they would have to ignore him and then it would be God's turn to say "why have thou forsaken me"

also to defend God a christian can only resort to "google cut and paste" from the bible, they are not allow to go beyond what's in the bible and that will surely get him convicted...God may have to take a plea deal

is there a Christian that would defend God or could defend God ...it probably would take a non-believer to defend god and save Christianity

And humans, being created in his image also have the power to create their reality with their thoughts. Thus explains the fine mess we gotten ourselves into.

The bible says God formed man from the earth and breathed life into his nostrils. I guess from a scientific standpoint we as humans do this everyday. For example: a man drowns , he stops breathing and is essentially dead. Another man administers C.P.R and breathes life back into the body. That"s my guess at putting the two together. AS far as the from the mud thing, dirt sustains all the nutrients needed to support plant life and we as humans are composed of the same carbon base as plants, animals, dirt, etc, So on your statement assuming that God did it for the sake of the thread, lets factor whats been said here.... a = dirt,(CaCO3) b= water,(H2o c= life.(6 CO2 + 6 H2O = C6H12O6 + 6 O2) Mabey we can use pythagorims theory to triangulate. (a^2+b^2=c^2) I'm not sure if this mathematical equation can be solved, but im going to work on it and get an answer.

Like God, I can also create things in my image. For example, I may sculpt a statue in my image. This does not mean the statue can walk, talk, or has the ability to sculpt. Likewise, creation in God's image only implies a superficial resemblance to the Divine.

If you ask me, it's pretty narcissistic to say we were created in the image of God. What's more, it implies that God looks like us, which is really confusing. How can an infinite being have a specific appearance?



In the end, God's only good course of action will be to plead insanity!




*falls over* I seriously hope you're just fooling around. You almost gave this Math major a heart attack...

Seriously, though, America's education system has really f*cked up when it comes to math. Honestly, what the hell?! Some people graduate from high school and can't even add and subtract...

And don't get me started on reading...

ya i was bored and threw some basic math together with variables that aren't solvable. seing how they arn't actually variables