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Topic: Can someone tell me...
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Mon 02/02/09 10:01 AM
Edited by Winx on Mon 02/02/09 10:02 AM
To Singmesweet,

You're welcome.:smile: flowerforyou

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Mon 02/02/09 10:17 AM
Edited by Dancere on Mon 02/02/09 10:45 AM






I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.


All due respect, in light of the threads of the last 2 days which had you very much involved to the level you now query, aren't you doing it again - by even starting this thread???

Seems very offensively-defensive, given the current events climate. Not trying to be a heckler, just stating the obvious.

If you can't agree to disagree, why ask it of another? Noone has the market cornered on being impassioned, while expecting less from another.

It gets heated because people care. It gets more heated because, in the heat of passion, it seems like the listening filters get quite clogged. Then, just ends up a personal tug-of-war contest!


I don't start threads, then yell at people who disagree with me. I don't insult people (and even apologized to someone who may have thought I was insulting them). I don't call people names. I'm sorry if you think I do. I do like to discuss issues and ask questions. There is a difference between not agreeing and getting mad that someone doesn't share the same viewpoint.


OK, that is your perception from your perspective. From where I sit, I found your too many comebacks on the subject overkill, and so, more harmful than helpful.

I'm SURE your passion began from the right place, but the chasing it - to flog a dead horse - was TOO much. I even took offense, but was too wise to enter that stalemate ring of gridlock! It ALL killed a great discussion thread. Y'all just didn't even bother to notice that everyone else left it.:wink:

I'd just reitterate my last post here, so just reread it. There IS pot calling the kettle black at work here.

And, -

You argued at length, w/ someone that didn't start the thread.

And, -

You DID just start this poking thread. You need to step back and read.

Lock the passion down into lesser spurts is all. Passion is good, and you make excellent points. Just don't burn the bldg. down that you are standing in, yeah? flowerforyou


No disrespect but I don't see how she is behaving like the comments she made in the OP. flowerforyou

She is not getting mad with people that are disagreeing with her and there aren't many disagreeing. She is also not saying "if you don't like the post, don't reply".





Thanks for understanding, Winx!


Well, taken out of my intended context, that would be affirmative.

BUT, this thread is in direct reaction, NOT response, to both threads yesterday regarding cynicism.

W/out reading the entirety of both those threads, and being directly involved, this thread would seem more innocent on the surface.

It is great that you defend your friend. And, I have no agenda to attack her personally. She seems like a very decent person.

Still, this thread is very reactionary and inflaming when put in HISTORICAL context. That's all. From that perspective, it then becomes textbook passive aggressive, defensively-offensive/offensively-defensive. Just semantics. A spade is a spade, no matter what pleasantries we dress them up in.

Etrain's photo
Mon 02/02/09 10:19 AM
I love all of you...well...the women...well, some of them...probably 2% of them...I thinksmokin smokin smokin

Winx's photo
Mon 02/02/09 10:23 AM







I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.


All due respect, in light of the threads of the last 2 days which had you very much involved to the level you now query, aren't you doing it again - by even starting this thread???

Seems very offensively-defensive, given the current events climate. Not trying to be a heckler, just stating the obvious.

If you can't agree to disagree, why ask it of another? Noone has the market cornered on being impassioned, while expecting less from another.

It gets heated because people care. It gets more heated because, in the heat of passion, it seems like the listening filters get quite clogged. Then, just ends up a personal tug-of-war contest!


I don't start threads, then yell at people who disagree with me. I don't insult people (and even apologized to someone who may have thought I was insulting them). I don't call people names. I'm sorry if you think I do. I do like to discuss issues and ask questions. There is a difference between not agreeing and getting mad that someone doesn't share the same viewpoint.


OK, that is your perception from your perspective. From where I sit, I found your too many comebacks on the subject overkill, and so, more harmful than helpful.

I'm SURE your passion began from the right place, but the chasing it - to flog a dead horse - was TOO much. I even took offense, but was too wise to enter that stalemate ring of gridlock! It ALL killed a great discussion thread. Y'all just didn't even bother to notice that everyone else left it.:wink:

I'd just reitterate my last post here, so just reread it. There IS pot calling the kettle black at work here.

And, -

You argued at length, w/ someone that didn't start the thread.

And, -

You DID just start this poking thread. You need to step back and read.

Lock the passion down into lesser spurts is all. Passion is good, and you make excellent points. Just don't burn the bldg. down that you are standing in, yeah? flowerforyou


No disrespect but I don't see how she is behaving like the comments she made in the OP. flowerforyou

She is not getting mad with people that are disagreeing with her and there aren't many disagreeing. She is also not saying "if you don't like the post, don't reply".





Thanks for understanding, Winx!


Well, taken out of my intended context, that would be affirmative.

BUT, this thread is in direct reaction, NOT response, to both threads yesterday regarding cynicism.

W/out reading the enirety of both those threads, and being directly involved, this thread would seem more innocent on the surface.

It is great that you defend your friend. And, I have no agenda to attack her personally. She seems like a very decent person.

Still, this thread is very reactionary and inflaming when put in HISTORICAL context. That's all. From that perspective, it then becomes textbook passive aggressive, defensively-offensive/offensively-defensive. Just semantics. A spade is a spade, no matter what pleasantries we dress them up in.


I don't recall having read the other thread that you are mentioning. I am just going by this thread. If I felt she was wrong, I would not have made my comment. Hmmm...passive-aggressive. I see her doing what many others have done when there is an issue on the site - put it out there for discussion. I've also not seen her do it before so it must really bother her.

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Mon 02/02/09 10:28 AM
Edited by Dancere on Mon 02/02/09 10:47 AM








I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.


All due respect, in light of the threads of the last 2 days which had you very much involved to the level you now query, aren't you doing it again - by even starting this thread???


Seems very offensively-defensive, given the current events climate. Not trying to be a heckler, just stating the obvious.

If you can't agree to disagree, why ask it of another? Noone has the market cornered on being impassioned, while expecting less from another.

It gets heated because people care. It gets more heated because, in the heat of passion, it seems like the listening filters get quite clogged. Then, just ends up a personal tug-of-war contest!


I don't start threads, then yell at people who disagree with me. I don't insult people (and even apologized to someone who may have thought I was insulting them). I don't call people names. I'm sorry if you think I do. I do like to discuss issues and ask questions. There is a difference between not agreeing and getting mad that someone doesn't share the same viewpoint.


OK, that is your perception from your perspective. From where I sit, I found your too many comebacks on the subject overkill, and so, more harmful than helpful.

I'm SURE your passion began from the right place, but the chasing it - to flog a dead horse - was TOO much. I even took offense, but was too wise to enter that stalemate ring of gridlock! It ALL killed a great discussion thread. Y'all just didn't even bother to notice that everyone else left it.:wink:

I'd just reitterate my last post here, so just reread it. There IS pot calling the kettle black at work here.

And, -

You argued at length, w/ someone that didn't start the thread.

And, -

You DID just start this poking thread. You need to step back and read.

Lock the passion down into lesser spurts is all. Passion is good, and you make excellent points. Just don't burn the bldg. down that you are standing in, yeah? flowerforyou


No disrespect but I don't see how she is behaving like the comments she made in the OP. flowerforyou

She is not getting mad with people that are disagreeing with her and there aren't many disagreeing. She is also not saying "if you don't like the post, don't reply".





Thanks for understanding, Winx!


Well, taken out of my intended context, that would be affirmative.

BUT, this thread is in direct reaction, NOT response, to both threads yesterday regarding cynicism.

W/out reading the entirety of both those threads, and being directly involved, this thread would seem more innocent on the surface.

It is great that you defend your friend. And, I have no agenda to attack her personally. She seems like a very decent person.

Still, this thread is very reactionary and inflaming when put in HISTORICAL context. That's all. From that perspective, it then becomes textbook passive aggressive, defensively-offensive/offensively-defensive. Just semantics. A spade is a spade, no matter what pleasantries we dress them up in.


I don't recall having read the other thread that you are mentioning. I am just going by this thread. If I felt she was wrong, I would not have made my comment. Hmmm...passive-aggressive. I see her doing what many others have done when there is an issue on the site - put it out there for discussion. I've also not seen her do it before so it must really bother her.


My best suggestion then, is go read BOTH threads on CYNICISM from yesterday, as just noted!

I can't keep retreading this. I'd just be beating the dead horse then too! I am OUT on this one, DONE!!! Best of luck, I'd STOP and I'd stop NOW! think Think I will.think

I am SO outta here! :banana: waving

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Mon 02/02/09 10:32 AM

What is the point of posting a thread that will cause arguments, then getting mad when people don't agree with the original post? The whole "if you don't like the post, don't reply" doesn't work.
people take things the wrong way or just lookin to start a fight....most grist:smile:

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Mon 02/02/09 10:32 AM
Because we are angry and insecure?

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Mon 02/02/09 10:53 AM
Edited by singmesweet on Mon 02/02/09 10:55 AM



Well, taken out of my intended context, that would be affirmative.

BUT, this thread is in direct reaction, NOT response, to both threads yesterday regarding cynicism.

W/out reading the entirety of both those threads, and being directly involved, this thread would seem more innocent on the surface.

It is great that you defend your friend. And, I have no agenda to attack her personally. She seems like a very decent person.

Still, this thread is very reactionary and inflaming when put in HISTORICAL context. That's all. From that perspective, it then becomes textbook passive aggressive, defensively-offensive/offensively-defensive. Just semantics. A spade is a spade, no matter what pleasantries we dress them up in.


No, this thread had absolutely nothing to do with the cynic threads. It had to do with a completely different thread. If you're going to accuse me of something, please don't assume you know the reason I created the thread. We are talking about two completely different things. If you want more clarification, feel free to email me. I'm not going to argue about it here.

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Mon 02/02/09 11:32 AM
Can we all just get along?:banana: :banana: :banana: I'm naked and posting...this feels...crazyshades

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Mon 02/02/09 11:36 AM

Can we all just get along?:banana: :banana: :banana: I'm naked and posting...this feels...crazyshades


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