Topic: Can someone tell me...
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Mon 02/02/09 09:26 AM
Not everyone in this forum board is going to agree with what one or more persons say because they'll sure have a difference of opinions to different situations and that's what these forum boards were put up for,good communications with each other.But,it is true that there will always be differences of opinions to certain things said because that's the way we are as humans,we question everything. drinker

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Mon 02/02/09 09:28 AM




I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.




Exactly. They aren't doing anyone any favors by starting up those problem threads.

If anything, it's almost like an online form of cancer- the malcontent will spread from member to member until everyone's at everyone else's throats. And the only one who in essence ends up winning is the one who posted the problem thread in the first place.

And I admit- I was dumb enough to go the "making it personal" route when replying to some of those inflammatory posts as well, and it's more-than-likely cost me some friendships along the way. But it will often get easy to get caught up in the whirlwind nature of some of those threads, as the negativity of the posters involved is just that strong. I'm also rather strong-willed (as well as stubborn-as-a-rock) person, so listening to another perspective can be difficult for me at times. That can be a serious hindrance when dealing with the flame-bait that are those forum topics.

Again- this is where the moderators of this place should keep better tabs on the problem posts and topics.




I'm not saying people don't make mistakes. I know I do. When I do, I apologize.






Of course people make mistakes when posting online. We aren't machines, after all- we're human and we have failings, including a predilection toward anger and making inflammatory comments.

But a great many (including the ones who start these problem posts) have no plans on detente or reconciliation when they make these posts. Their intent is to cause as much mayhem as they can and are unapologetic about doing do. And that's the problem here.


Yes, exactly. Some people like to just start arguments for the sake of fighting. It is a problem.

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Mon 02/02/09 09:28 AM


What is the point of posting a thread that will cause arguments, then getting mad when people don't agree with the original post? The whole "if you don't like the post, don't reply" doesn't work.

I don't like this postsmokin smokin smokin


Bite me. laugh

Robin2007's photo
Mon 02/02/09 09:32 AM





I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.




Exactly. They aren't doing anyone any favors by starting up those problem threads.

If anything, it's almost like an online form of cancer- the malcontent will spread from member to member until everyone's at everyone else's throats. And the only one who in essence ends up winning is the one who posted the problem thread in the first place.

And I admit- I was dumb enough to go the "making it personal" route when replying to some of those inflammatory posts as well, and it's more-than-likely cost me some friendships along the way. But it will often get easy to get caught up in the whirlwind nature of some of those threads, as the negativity of the posters involved is just that strong. I'm also rather strong-willed (as well as stubborn-as-a-rock) person, so listening to another perspective can be difficult for me at times. That can be a serious hindrance when dealing with the flame-bait that are those forum topics.

Again- this is where the moderators of this place should keep better tabs on the problem posts and topics.




I'm not saying people don't make mistakes. I know I do. When I do, I apologize.






Of course people make mistakes when posting online. We aren't machines, after all- we're human and we have failings, including a predilection toward anger and making inflammatory comments.

But a great many (including the ones who start these problem posts) have no plans on detente or reconciliation when they make these posts. Their intent is to cause as much mayhem as they can and are unapologetic about doing do. And that's the problem here.


Yes, exactly. Some people like to just start arguments for the sake of fighting. It is a problem.

Yep singmesweet,I have certainly noticed this many times when I have looked into the forum community and I guess it's because a lot of regulars like to judge & critize others for their opinions because it seems to make them feel superior.

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Mon 02/02/09 09:32 AM





I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.




Exactly. They aren't doing anyone any favors by starting up those problem threads.

If anything, it's almost like an online form of cancer- the malcontent will spread from member to member until everyone's at everyone else's throats. And the only one who in essence ends up winning is the one who posted the problem thread in the first place.

And I admit- I was dumb enough to go the "making it personal" route when replying to some of those inflammatory posts as well, and it's more-than-likely cost me some friendships along the way. But it will often get easy to get caught up in the whirlwind nature of some of those threads, as the negativity of the posters involved is just that strong. I'm also rather strong-willed (as well as stubborn-as-a-rock) person, so listening to another perspective can be difficult for me at times. That can be a serious hindrance when dealing with the flame-bait that are those forum topics.

Again- this is where the moderators of this place should keep better tabs on the problem posts and topics.




I'm not saying people don't make mistakes. I know I do. When I do, I apologize.






Of course people make mistakes when posting online. We aren't machines, after all- we're human and we have failings, including a predilection toward anger and making inflammatory comments.

But a great many (including the ones who start these problem posts) have no plans on detente or reconciliation when they make these posts. Their intent is to cause as much mayhem as they can and are unapologetic about doing do. And that's the problem here.


Yes, exactly. Some people like to just start arguments for the sake of fighting. It is a problem.




I propose we do this-

If and when a topic goes the "inflammatory" route, no one else in the forums reply to it. If someone sees a forum topic that is getting heated to the point of being "flame-bait", someone post saying how the thread is becoming a problem.

It's one of those cases where we pretty much have to police ourselves if those who are supposed to do so can or will not. It's the only way to have a half-way decent chance of combating this growing problem.

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Mon 02/02/09 09:32 AM
In all honesty its better when people have a difference of opinion because it they argue it well...I can further evaluate and support my convictions or completely debunk them altogether..which is good its called progress

but I think some people really just like to twist the nickers flowerforyou

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Mon 02/02/09 09:33 AM
is this the argument thread?

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Mon 02/02/09 09:33 AM






I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.




Exactly. They aren't doing anyone any favors by starting up those problem threads.

If anything, it's almost like an online form of cancer- the malcontent will spread from member to member until everyone's at everyone else's throats. And the only one who in essence ends up winning is the one who posted the problem thread in the first place.

And I admit- I was dumb enough to go the "making it personal" route when replying to some of those inflammatory posts as well, and it's more-than-likely cost me some friendships along the way. But it will often get easy to get caught up in the whirlwind nature of some of those threads, as the negativity of the posters involved is just that strong. I'm also rather strong-willed (as well as stubborn-as-a-rock) person, so listening to another perspective can be difficult for me at times. That can be a serious hindrance when dealing with the flame-bait that are those forum topics.

Again- this is where the moderators of this place should keep better tabs on the problem posts and topics.




I'm not saying people don't make mistakes. I know I do. When I do, I apologize.






Of course people make mistakes when posting online. We aren't machines, after all- we're human and we have failings, including a predilection toward anger and making inflammatory comments.

But a great many (including the ones who start these problem posts) have no plans on detente or reconciliation when they make these posts. Their intent is to cause as much mayhem as they can and are unapologetic about doing do. And that's the problem here.


Yes, exactly. Some people like to just start arguments for the sake of fighting. It is a problem.

Yep singmesweet,I have certainly noticed this many times when I have looked into the forum community and I guess it's because a lot of regulars like to judge & critize others for their opinions because it seems to make them feel superior.


Actually, the post that made me start this was not created by a regular. So, it has nothing to do with that.

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Mon 02/02/09 09:34 AM

is this the argument thread?


It wasn't meant to be :smile:.

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Mon 02/02/09 09:35 AM






I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.




Exactly. They aren't doing anyone any favors by starting up those problem threads.

If anything, it's almost like an online form of cancer- the malcontent will spread from member to member until everyone's at everyone else's throats. And the only one who in essence ends up winning is the one who posted the problem thread in the first place.

And I admit- I was dumb enough to go the "making it personal" route when replying to some of those inflammatory posts as well, and it's more-than-likely cost me some friendships along the way. But it will often get easy to get caught up in the whirlwind nature of some of those threads, as the negativity of the posters involved is just that strong. I'm also rather strong-willed (as well as stubborn-as-a-rock) person, so listening to another perspective can be difficult for me at times. That can be a serious hindrance when dealing with the flame-bait that are those forum topics.

Again- this is where the moderators of this place should keep better tabs on the problem posts and topics.




I'm not saying people don't make mistakes. I know I do. When I do, I apologize.






Of course people make mistakes when posting online. We aren't machines, after all- we're human and we have failings, including a predilection toward anger and making inflammatory comments.

But a great many (including the ones who start these problem posts) have no plans on detente or reconciliation when they make these posts. Their intent is to cause as much mayhem as they can and are unapologetic about doing do. And that's the problem here.


Yes, exactly. Some people like to just start arguments for the sake of fighting. It is a problem.




I propose we do this-

If and when a topic goes the "inflammatory" route, no one else in the forums reply to it. If someone sees a forum topic that is getting heated to the point of being "flame-bait", someone post saying how the thread is becoming a problem.

It's one of those cases where we pretty much have to police ourselves if those who are supposed to do so can or will not. It's the only way to have a half-way decent chance of combating this growing problem.


Nice idea, but it won't happen.

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Mon 02/02/09 09:35 AM
Edited by Dancere on Mon 02/02/09 09:38 AM



I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.


All due respect, in light of the threads of the last 2 days which had you very much involved to the level you now query, aren't you doing it again - by even starting this thread???

Seems very offensively-defensive, given the current events climate. Not trying to be a heckler, just stating the obvious.

If you can't agree to disagree, why ask it of another? Noone has the market cornered on being impassioned, while expecting less from another.

It gets heated because people care. It gets more heated because, in the heat of passion, it seems like the listening filters get quite clogged. Then, just ends up a personal tug-of-war contest!


I don't start threads, then yell at people who disagree with me. I don't insult people (and even apologized to someone who may have thought I was insulting them). I don't call people names. I'm sorry if you think I do. I do like to discuss issues and ask questions. There is a difference between not agreeing and getting mad that someone doesn't share the same viewpoint.


OK, that is your perception from your perspective. From where I sit, I found your too many comebacks on the subject overkill, and so, more harmful than helpful.

I'm SURE your passion began from the right place, but the chasing it - to flog a dead horse - was TOO much. I even took offense, but was too wise to enter that stalemate ring of gridlock! It ALL killed a great discussion thread. Y'all just didn't even bother to notice that everyone else left it.:wink:

I'd just reitterate my last post here, so just reread it. There IS pot calling the kettle black at work here.

And, -

You argued at length, w/ someone that didn't start the thread.

And, -

You DID just start this poking thread. You need to step back and read.

Lock the passion down into lesser spurts is all. Passion is good, and you make excellent points. Just don't burn the bldg. down that you are standing in, yeah? flowerforyou

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Mon 02/02/09 09:35 AM







I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.




Exactly. They aren't doing anyone any favors by starting up those problem threads.

If anything, it's almost like an online form of cancer- the malcontent will spread from member to member until everyone's at everyone else's throats. And the only one who in essence ends up winning is the one who posted the problem thread in the first place.

And I admit- I was dumb enough to go the "making it personal" route when replying to some of those inflammatory posts as well, and it's more-than-likely cost me some friendships along the way. But it will often get easy to get caught up in the whirlwind nature of some of those threads, as the negativity of the posters involved is just that strong. I'm also rather strong-willed (as well as stubborn-as-a-rock) person, so listening to another perspective can be difficult for me at times. That can be a serious hindrance when dealing with the flame-bait that are those forum topics.

Again- this is where the moderators of this place should keep better tabs on the problem posts and topics.




I'm not saying people don't make mistakes. I know I do. When I do, I apologize.






Of course people make mistakes when posting online. We aren't machines, after all- we're human and we have failings, including a predilection toward anger and making inflammatory comments.

But a great many (including the ones who start these problem posts) have no plans on detente or reconciliation when they make these posts. Their intent is to cause as much mayhem as they can and are unapologetic about doing do. And that's the problem here.


Yes, exactly. Some people like to just start arguments for the sake of fighting. It is a problem.




I propose we do this-

If and when a topic goes the "inflammatory" route, no one else in the forums reply to it. If someone sees a forum topic that is getting heated to the point of being "flame-bait", someone post saying how the thread is becoming a problem.

It's one of those cases where we pretty much have to police ourselves if those who are supposed to do so can or will not. It's the only way to have a half-way decent chance of combating this growing problem.


Nice idea, but it won't happen.


You're probably right.

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Mon 02/02/09 09:36 AM

What is the point of posting a thread that will cause arguments, then getting mad when people don't agree with the original post? The whole "if you don't like the post, don't reply" doesn't work.

its called stirring the pot. people who do that are called forum trolls

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Mon 02/02/09 09:38 AM
Edited by singmesweet on Mon 02/02/09 09:39 AM




I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.


All due respect, in light of the threads of the last 2 days which had you very much involved to the level you now query, aren't you doing it again - by even starting this thread???

Seems very offensively-defensive, given the current events climate. Not trying to be a heckler, just stating the obvious.

If you can't agree to disagree, why ask it of another? Noone has the market cornered on being impassioned, while expecting less from another.

It gets heated because people care. It gets more heated because, in the heat of passion, it seems like the listening filters get quite clogged. Then, just ends up a personal tug-of-war contest!


I don't start threads, then yell at people who disagree with me. I don't insult people (and even apologized to someone who may have thought I was insulting them). I don't call people names. I'm sorry if you think I do. I do like to discuss issues and ask questions. There is a difference between not agreeing and getting mad that someone doesn't share the same viewpoint.


OK, that is your perception from your perspective. From where I sit, I found your too many comebacks on the subject overkill, and so, more harmful than helpful.

I'm SURE your passion began from the right place, but the chasing it - to flog a dead horse - was TOO much. I even took offense, but was too wise to enter that stalemate ring of gridlock! It ALL killed a great discussion thread. Y'all just didn't even bother to notice that everyone else left it.:wink:

I'd just reitterate my last post here, so just reread it. There IS pot calling the kettle black at work here.

And, -

You argued at length, w/ someone that didn't start the thread.

And, -

You DID just start this poking thread. You need to step back and read.

Lock the passion down into lesser spurts is all. Passion is good, and you make excellent points. Just don't burn the bldg. down that you are standing in, yeah? flowerforyou


Ok :thumbsup:

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Mon 02/02/09 09:45 AM
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Mon 02/02/09 09:45 AM


What is the point of posting a thread that will cause arguments, then getting mad when people don't agree with the original post? The whole "if you don't like the post, don't reply" doesn't work.

its called stirring the pot. people who do that are called forum trolls


That's a good call,but I'd probably call the pot stirrers more like *Crap stirrers* or adolecent twerps

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Mon 02/02/09 09:50 AM



What is the point of posting a thread that will cause arguments, then getting mad when people don't agree with the original post? The whole "if you don't like the post, don't reply" doesn't work.

I don't like this postsmokin smokin smokin


Bite me. laugh

Ok...I've changed my mind and now I like this threaddrool

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Mon 02/02/09 09:58 AM




I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.


All due respect, in light of the threads of the last 2 days which had you very much involved to the level you now query, aren't you doing it again - by even starting this thread???

Seems very offensively-defensive, given the current events climate. Not trying to be a heckler, just stating the obvious.

If you can't agree to disagree, why ask it of another? Noone has the market cornered on being impassioned, while expecting less from another.

It gets heated because people care. It gets more heated because, in the heat of passion, it seems like the listening filters get quite clogged. Then, just ends up a personal tug-of-war contest!


I don't start threads, then yell at people who disagree with me. I don't insult people (and even apologized to someone who may have thought I was insulting them). I don't call people names. I'm sorry if you think I do. I do like to discuss issues and ask questions. There is a difference between not agreeing and getting mad that someone doesn't share the same viewpoint.


OK, that is your perception from your perspective. From where I sit, I found your too many comebacks on the subject overkill, and so, more harmful than helpful.

I'm SURE your passion began from the right place, but the chasing it - to flog a dead horse - was TOO much. I even took offense, but was too wise to enter that stalemate ring of gridlock! It ALL killed a great discussion thread. Y'all just didn't even bother to notice that everyone else left it.:wink:

I'd just reitterate my last post here, so just reread it. There IS pot calling the kettle black at work here.

And, -

You argued at length, w/ someone that didn't start the thread.

And, -

You DID just start this poking thread. You need to step back and read.

Lock the passion down into lesser spurts is all. Passion is good, and you make excellent points. Just don't burn the bldg. down that you are standing in, yeah? flowerforyou


No disrespect but I don't see how she is behaving like the comments she made in the OP. flowerforyou

She is not getting mad with people that are disagreeing with her and there aren't many disagreeing. She is also not saying "if you don't like the post, don't reply".



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Mon 02/02/09 09:58 AM




What is the point of posting a thread that will cause arguments, then getting mad when people don't agree with the original post? The whole "if you don't like the post, don't reply" doesn't work.

I don't like this postsmokin smokin smokin


Bite me. laugh

Ok...I've changed my mind and now I like this threaddrool


I figured you would. :tongue:

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Mon 02/02/09 09:58 AM





I'm all for healthy debates. Though, the people who can't handle debating without making it personal shouldn't be starting those types of topics.

Then again, that's asking a bit much.


All due respect, in light of the threads of the last 2 days which had you very much involved to the level you now query, aren't you doing it again - by even starting this thread???

Seems very offensively-defensive, given the current events climate. Not trying to be a heckler, just stating the obvious.

If you can't agree to disagree, why ask it of another? Noone has the market cornered on being impassioned, while expecting less from another.

It gets heated because people care. It gets more heated because, in the heat of passion, it seems like the listening filters get quite clogged. Then, just ends up a personal tug-of-war contest!


I don't start threads, then yell at people who disagree with me. I don't insult people (and even apologized to someone who may have thought I was insulting them). I don't call people names. I'm sorry if you think I do. I do like to discuss issues and ask questions. There is a difference between not agreeing and getting mad that someone doesn't share the same viewpoint.


OK, that is your perception from your perspective. From where I sit, I found your too many comebacks on the subject overkill, and so, more harmful than helpful.

I'm SURE your passion began from the right place, but the chasing it - to flog a dead horse - was TOO much. I even took offense, but was too wise to enter that stalemate ring of gridlock! It ALL killed a great discussion thread. Y'all just didn't even bother to notice that everyone else left it.:wink:

I'd just reitterate my last post here, so just reread it. There IS pot calling the kettle black at work here.

And, -

You argued at length, w/ someone that didn't start the thread.

And, -

You DID just start this poking thread. You need to step back and read.

Lock the passion down into lesser spurts is all. Passion is good, and you make excellent points. Just don't burn the bldg. down that you are standing in, yeah? flowerforyou


No disrespect but I don't see how she is behaving like the comments she made in the OP. flowerforyou

She is not getting mad with people that are disagreeing with her and there aren't many disagreeing. She is also not saying "if you don't like the post, don't reply".





Thanks for understanding, Winx!