Many Christians say that they don't look at people as a good person or a bad person. They claim this is looking at people from a judgemental view, yet they choose to see that we are born as sinners and need to find salvation.

If a Christian believes we are sinners as soon as we pop out of our mother's body, wouldn't you call this as a judgemental view in itself?

i don't judge anyone

but of course you do. It is in our nature one way or another, yet I am talking about in a religious perspective a Christian says they do not judge good or bad in people, but call us all sinners if we don't find rejoice in the savior of Christ?

I would like to known if that isn't a fundamental thought in itself?

I judge everyone.
Especially babies.

ok i will judge all then

I judge people

ALL SIN and fall short of the Glory of God. Through Christ we have forgiveness for our sins and salvation through Him.

Take your judgment of Christians elsewheres.

GOD says we are sinners that is why He sent a Savior!

god says we are sinners.

Is this a judgemental view or not?

It's what God says and He is the JUDGE.

The creator and judge can hold a righteously judgmental view. So yes, it is God's righteous judgment.

The fact that I call everybody a sinner isn't a judgment on my part, I would much rather believe that I'm not a sinner. I say that because I believe that the Bible is the word of God and the Bible teaches that concept.

Many Christians say "Repent"

So did John the Baptist

Is that the same book that says that God told people to judge their neighbors and stone sinners to death?

I don't believe that book is the word of any God.

That book is clearly the word of godforsaken men who tell people to judge each other and stone people to death.

Why would you assume that book is the word of any God?

That's you folly right there.

You can still believe today that everyone is not a sinner. Trust me it is possible!

I believe the day you were born Spidercrmb that you were not a sinner. You are a gift of life to your family and a gift to Earth.

May you be blessed and not so hard on yourself for believing that God told you that you are a sinner.

This is not what a christian believes. A christian believes that a sinner is someone who has sinned.

I am now confused Eljay. It is nice to hear from you again.

Well - (in President Reagan voice)

I understand that one is a sinner as soon as you are born and given the chance to rejoice Christ as your savior.

You say that a sinner is someone who has sinned. So this means at a later life if a human sinned then he has to then rejoice Christ as his savior.

Is this correct?

Smiles I am not sure where you got this information.I don't remember reading anywhere where a person is born a sinner.A baby don't know the difference between right or wrong so a baby is born with out sin.

Smiles Christians can and do judge.I have written about this before and it's not against Gods will to judge after you know the facts.If we did not judge people we could watch someone murder somebody and then ignore what just happened and invite them into the house for tea.The bible talks a great deal about who and who you are not supposed to be associated with.How we know who we are not supposed to be associated with is how we judge them by their actions.If we see a person stealing,killing,robbing people we know he is a bad person and we should not be associated with him.

When the bible talks about not judging it is talking about assuming that person is bad or evil even though you don't know anything about them.It would be wrong to judge a person only by looking at them.

Amen!

Hence the premise: "don't judge a book by its cover"

The bible states that We are all born with a "sin nature" from Adam....

not born sinners(how can a tiny babe have yet commited any sin yet???).....

big difference...

and also....it is only in rejecting Christ that a person is cut off from God, and doesn't go to heaven...

now...take a tiny baby, for instance....

if that tiny baby dies, the baby goes straight to heaven....

simply because that tiny babe is not held accountable for not having understanding yet .

God is Merciful and Just....

His Understanding and Ways are Higher than Our Ways....

That is Why the Word of God has to be rightly divided....