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Edited by
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Swell.. People who buy this are the same people who once said, "If you aren't doing anything wrong what do you have to fear?" I think we've seen the flaws in that arguement. One of the things that makes the United States great is the presumption of innocence. Our forefathers I am sure could not have imagined the technology available to government but they did have some experiences with invasive and crushing governmental powers but knew government had the power to quash even legal activities with it's heavy arm. It's a slippery slope. Is it okay to test without reason for high sodium levels? After all, if you use too much salt despite knowing the detrimental effects of high sodium, aren't you injuring yourself and therefor society by costing it more in health care costs? Kiss freedom good-bye ladies and gentlemen....while you are picking your arguments. Lynann!! 
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Edited by
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Wed 11/26/08 07:16 AM
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/pounce HUGS Winx |
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I don't agree that recipients of assistance should be given a mandatory drug tested. That is a discriminatory practice in that it assumes everyone who needs assistance is a drug abuser and that usage was what created the need. While I completely understand the frustration involved, I also must add that the cash assistance is not usually the only assistance one gets. Recipients usually get food stamps, assistance in paying for daycare, as well as free or very low cost medical assistance. Most are eligible for assistance with housing, but it's harder to get and many do not take advantage of that benefit. Then, of course, there is the assistance in paying for school and/or finding a job. It is what you make of it. Public assistance is not meant to give anyone a cushy life, it's meant for survival and is meant to be temporary. And, yes, it is an absent parents responsibility to pay for the welfare of their child, but more often than not, it is tax payers who take on that responsibility. I've done this work for 25 years and I have to say that there have been times when my clients had more spendable income than I did. Being a single parent is not easy on most. 
other then the first two lines...I agree with you young lady...you see a urine test as discriminatory...I see it..as tough love...a form of shown responsibility...  The first two lines were the only thing you could have agreed with me on! 
There, again, how much tough love do you give. You want them wearing ankle bracelets to be sure they are not spending the assistance on things we deem they shouldn't, IE., going to a bar? 
Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? ...hardly...what you call punishment...I call tough love... 
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Rumor has it Gio likes to be punished!
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Rumor has it Gio likes to be punished!  gulp !!...where have you been hiding young lady ?..I hope all has been well with you and yours...
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I was off engaging in a week long naked, feminist, pagan ritual with like minded folks where we spent money recklessly, hated men, sneered at conservatives, made sacrifices to the gods of abortion, homosexuality, higher taxes and un-American liberal media.
When we weren't engaged in rituals we were plotting to corrupt children and ruin the country. Oh of course nights were spent having wanton liberal kinky sex. haha It was a nice vacation. |
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I was off engaging in a week long naked, feminist, pagan ritual with like minded folks where we spent money recklessly, hated men, sneered at conservatives, made sacrifices to the gods of abortion, homosexuality, higher taxes and un-American liberal media. When we weren't engaged in rituals we were plotting to corrupt children and ruin the country. Oh of course nights were spent having wanton liberal kinky sex. haha It was a nice vacation. sounds like the board...LOL...gulp !!...liberal sex ?...I see...all talk and NO action !...
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HA HA HA
Okay Gio, ten points, untrue but none the less very funny. |
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Welcome back, Lynann!
I want a liberal vacation!  
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I don't agree that recipients of assistance should be given a mandatory drug tested. That is a discriminatory practice in that it assumes everyone who needs assistance is a drug abuser and that usage was what created the need. While I completely understand the frustration involved, I also must add that the cash assistance is not usually the only assistance one gets. Recipients usually get food stamps, assistance in paying for daycare, as well as free or very low cost medical assistance. Most are eligible for assistance with housing, but it's harder to get and many do not take advantage of that benefit. Then, of course, there is the assistance in paying for school and/or finding a job. It is what you make of it. Public assistance is not meant to give anyone a cushy life, it's meant for survival and is meant to be temporary. And, yes, it is an absent parents responsibility to pay for the welfare of their child, but more often than not, it is tax payers who take on that responsibility. I've done this work for 25 years and I have to say that there have been times when my clients had more spendable income than I did. Being a single parent is not easy on most.
other then the first two lines...I agree with you young lady...you see a urine test as discriminatory...I see it..as tough love...a form of shown responsibility... The first two lines were the only thing you could have agreed with me on!
There, again, how much tough love do you give. You want them wearing ankle bracelets to be sure they are not spending the assistance on things we deem they shouldn't, IE., going to a bar?
Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? ...hardly...what you call punishment...I call tough love...
Wow, you're a tough nut to crack! 
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I don't agree that recipients of assistance should be given a mandatory drug tested. That is a discriminatory practice in that it assumes everyone who needs assistance is a drug abuser and that usage was what created the need. While I completely understand the frustration involved, I also must add that the cash assistance is not usually the only assistance one gets. Recipients usually get food stamps, assistance in paying for daycare, as well as free or very low cost medical assistance. Most are eligible for assistance with housing, but it's harder to get and many do not take advantage of that benefit. Then, of course, there is the assistance in paying for school and/or finding a job. It is what you make of it. Public assistance is not meant to give anyone a cushy life, it's meant for survival and is meant to be temporary. And, yes, it is an absent parents responsibility to pay for the welfare of their child, but more often than not, it is tax payers who take on that responsibility. I've done this work for 25 years and I have to say that there have been times when my clients had more spendable income than I did. Being a single parent is not easy on most.
other then the first two lines...I agree with you young lady...you see a urine test as discriminatory...I see it..as tough love...a form of shown responsibility... The first two lines were the only thing you could have agreed with me on!
There, again, how much tough love do you give. You want them wearing ankle bracelets to be sure they are not spending the assistance on things we deem they shouldn't, IE., going to a bar?
Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? ...hardly...what you call punishment...I call tough love...
Wow, you're a tough nut to crack!
okay...we can compromise...I'll trade you my tough love for your carrot cake recipe...is it a deal ?...
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/pounce HUGS Winx Hugs, Lynann.  
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I don't agree that recipients of assistance should be given a mandatory drug tested. That is a discriminatory practice in that it assumes everyone who needs assistance is a drug abuser and that usage was what created the need. While I completely understand the frustration involved, I also must add that the cash assistance is not usually the only assistance one gets. Recipients usually get food stamps, assistance in paying for daycare, as well as free or very low cost medical assistance. Most are eligible for assistance with housing, but it's harder to get and many do not take advantage of that benefit. Then, of course, there is the assistance in paying for school and/or finding a job. It is what you make of it. Public assistance is not meant to give anyone a cushy life, it's meant for survival and is meant to be temporary. And, yes, it is an absent parents responsibility to pay for the welfare of their child, but more often than not, it is tax payers who take on that responsibility. I've done this work for 25 years and I have to say that there have been times when my clients had more spendable income than I did. Being a single parent is not easy on most.
other then the first two lines...I agree with you young lady...you see a urine test as discriminatory...I see it..as tough love...a form of shown responsibility... The first two lines were the only thing you could have agreed with me on!
There, again, how much tough love do you give. You want them wearing ankle bracelets to be sure they are not spending the assistance on things we deem they shouldn't, IE., going to a bar?
Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? ...hardly...what you call punishment...I call tough love...
Interesting. I see helping people when they're down and feeding children and you see tough love. |
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I was off engaging in a week long naked, feminist, pagan ritual with like minded folks where we spent money recklessly, hated men, sneered at conservatives, made sacrifices to the gods of abortion, homosexuality, higher taxes and un-American liberal media. When we weren't engaged in rituals we were plotting to corrupt children and ruin the country. Oh of course nights were spent having wanton liberal kinky sex. haha It was a nice vacation.  
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I don't agree that recipients of assistance should be given a mandatory drug tested. That is a discriminatory practice in that it assumes everyone who needs assistance is a drug abuser and that usage was what created the need. While I completely understand the frustration involved, I also must add that the cash assistance is not usually the only assistance one gets. Recipients usually get food stamps, assistance in paying for daycare, as well as free or very low cost medical assistance. Most are eligible for assistance with housing, but it's harder to get and many do not take advantage of that benefit. Then, of course, there is the assistance in paying for school and/or finding a job. It is what you make of it. Public assistance is not meant to give anyone a cushy life, it's meant for survival and is meant to be temporary. And, yes, it is an absent parents responsibility to pay for the welfare of their child, but more often than not, it is tax payers who take on that responsibility. I've done this work for 25 years and I have to say that there have been times when my clients had more spendable income than I did. Being a single parent is not easy on most.
other then the first two lines...I agree with you young lady...you see a urine test as discriminatory...I see it..as tough love...a form of shown responsibility... The first two lines were the only thing you could have agreed with me on!
There, again, how much tough love do you give. You want them wearing ankle bracelets to be sure they are not spending the assistance on things we deem they shouldn't, IE., going to a bar?
Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? ...hardly...what you call punishment...I call tough love...
Wow, you're a tough nut to crack!
are you digging up your carrot cake recipe young lady ?...lol... |
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I don't agree that recipients of assistance should be given a mandatory drug tested. That is a discriminatory practice in that it assumes everyone who needs assistance is a drug abuser and that usage was what created the need. While I completely understand the frustration involved, I also must add that the cash assistance is not usually the only assistance one gets. Recipients usually get food stamps, assistance in paying for daycare, as well as free or very low cost medical assistance. Most are eligible for assistance with housing, but it's harder to get and many do not take advantage of that benefit. Then, of course, there is the assistance in paying for school and/or finding a job. It is what you make of it. Public assistance is not meant to give anyone a cushy life, it's meant for survival and is meant to be temporary. And, yes, it is an absent parents responsibility to pay for the welfare of their child, but more often than not, it is tax payers who take on that responsibility. I've done this work for 25 years and I have to say that there have been times when my clients had more spendable income than I did. Being a single parent is not easy on most.
other then the first two lines...I agree with you young lady...you see a urine test as discriminatory...I see it..as tough love...a form of shown responsibility... The first two lines were the only thing you could have agreed with me on!
There, again, how much tough love do you give. You want them wearing ankle bracelets to be sure they are not spending the assistance on things we deem they shouldn't, IE., going to a bar?
Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? ...hardly...what you call punishment...I call tough love...
Wow, you're a tough nut to crack!
are you digging up your carrot cake recipe young lady ?...lol...
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They served sex, drugs and rock n' roll. Along with mountains of great food from around the world. We washed it down with good whiskey and home brew.
Nah...not really but a few of those elements mentioned above might make for an outstanding date haha I think I might be too old for drugs...besides baby aspirin haha |
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They served sex, drugs and rock n' roll. Along with mountains of great food from around the world. We washed it down with good whiskey and home brew. Nah...not really but a few of those elements mentioned above might make for an outstanding date haha I think I might be too old for drugs...besides baby aspirin haha . I thought I might need bailed out. I have away of letting people get to me.
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I don't agree that recipients of assistance should be given a mandatory drug tested. That is a discriminatory practice in that it assumes everyone who needs assistance is a drug abuser and that usage was what created the need. While I completely understand the frustration involved, I also must add that the cash assistance is not usually the only assistance one gets. Recipients usually get food stamps, assistance in paying for daycare, as well as free or very low cost medical assistance. Most are eligible for assistance with housing, but it's harder to get and many do not take advantage of that benefit. Then, of course, there is the assistance in paying for school and/or finding a job. It is what you make of it. Public assistance is not meant to give anyone a cushy life, it's meant for survival and is meant to be temporary. And, yes, it is an absent parents responsibility to pay for the welfare of their child, but more often than not, it is tax payers who take on that responsibility. I've done this work for 25 years and I have to say that there have been times when my clients had more spendable income than I did. Being a single parent is not easy on most.
other then the first two lines...I agree with you young lady...you see a urine test as discriminatory...I see it..as tough love...a form of shown responsibility... The first two lines were the only thing you could have agreed with me on!
There, again, how much tough love do you give. You want them wearing ankle bracelets to be sure they are not spending the assistance on things we deem they shouldn't, IE., going to a bar?
Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? ...hardly...what you call punishment...I call tough love...
Wow, you're a tough nut to crack!
are you digging up your carrot cake recipe young lady ?...lol...
not too sure about locked...but...definitely loaded !!... 
did you get the go ahead from the board...superintendent...in regards to the poor ...helpless rubber duckies ?... ...gulp !!!
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I don't agree that recipients of assistance should be given a mandatory drug tested. That is a discriminatory practice in that it assumes everyone who needs assistance is a drug abuser and that usage was what created the need. While I completely understand the frustration involved, I also must add that the cash assistance is not usually the only assistance one gets. Recipients usually get food stamps, assistance in paying for daycare, as well as free or very low cost medical assistance. Most are eligible for assistance with housing, but it's harder to get and many do not take advantage of that benefit. Then, of course, there is the assistance in paying for school and/or finding a job. It is what you make of it. Public assistance is not meant to give anyone a cushy life, it's meant for survival and is meant to be temporary. And, yes, it is an absent parents responsibility to pay for the welfare of their child, but more often than not, it is tax payers who take on that responsibility. I've done this work for 25 years and I have to say that there have been times when my clients had more spendable income than I did. Being a single parent is not easy on most.
other then the first two lines...I agree with you young lady...you see a urine test as discriminatory...I see it..as tough love...a form of shown responsibility... The first two lines were the only thing you could have agreed with me on!
There, again, how much tough love do you give. You want them wearing ankle bracelets to be sure they are not spending the assistance on things we deem they shouldn't, IE., going to a bar?
Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? Oh, and TOUGH LOVE? Are we punishing these folks? ...hardly...what you call punishment...I call tough love...
Wow, you're a tough nut to crack!
are you digging up your carrot cake recipe young lady ?...lol...
not too sure about locked...but...definitely loaded !!...
did you get the go ahead from the board...superintendent...in regards to the poor ...helpless rubber duckies ?... ...gulp !!!
Just ask
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