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Lynann Joined Mon 10/01/07 Posts: 4072	Fri 11/14/08 02:42 PM
Apologies to Foliel for not addressing his post. Someone asked me a question in a previous post. An answer to a post above. Presidents are not required to take the oath of office on a bible. I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. Presidents swear to protect and defend the Constitution. Not the Church. That is the wording of the oath of office. There was a claim made by A.M. Milligan (a radical Presbyterian minister who wanted the U.S. government to be officially Christian) that letters were sent to Abraham Lincoln asking him to swear to God during his inaugurations, and Lincoln allegedly wrote back saying that he could not do so. Franklin Pierce was the first president to use the word affirm rather than swear. Theodore Roosevelt did not use a Bible when taking the oath in 1901. Dwight Eisenhower, Harry Truman, and Richard Nixon swore the oath on two Bibles. John Quincy Adams swore on a book of law. Ya think Teddy and Adams were secret Muslim terrorists?

Lynann Joined Mon 10/01/07 Posts: 4072	Fri 11/14/08 02:57 PM
It's important to point out that sodomy laws have been applied in some cases in order to bring additional charges against someone who commits rape. Sodomy laws can be one more charge to bear against a violent criminal offender. Sodomy laws used to criminalize sexual behavior between consenting adults need to be eliminated. Foliel, I agree with you completely it's no ones business what goes on between two consenting adults. I too am puzzled by people who object to homosexual marriage or unions. I mean seriously ladies and gentlemen, have heterosexuals been successful at keeping marriages together? How is your marriage threatened by other people getting married? People who point to prop 8 and say it's the will of the people ought to remember that just 40 years ago in most of the US it was illegal to marry outside your race. The courts gave people that right and look around you...there are many successful inter-racial marriages. It's my bet give the social climate at the time that had that issue gone to the voters they would not have allowed it. I hope reasonable, loving and good people will continue to work for change. If you question why gay marriage is important I'd urge you to get out and meet the people and families in your community. It might change your heart and your mind.

Bushidobillyclub Joined Fri 05/11/07 Posts: 5689	Fri 11/14/08 04:16 PM
WOW! You people are so hateful...talk about being intolerant. People in glass houses...just like yu'all say when it's your sacred cow... people don't need to explain why they feel the way they do. That goes for you too. You can believe what you want but don't expect people to get on any old bandwagon. I know I have never said that. I expect everyone to explain every belief that they wish to impose on others or make public.

kaadeshka Joined Thu 04/03/08 Posts: 413	Fri 11/14/08 08:35 PM
I am a gay man and I am irritated at the way the gay people handled that protest. They should not have disrupted services in a church nor should have they start shouting that Jesus was a homosexual. They were completely rude and mean towards others. That will not help in the movement to get equal rights for gay people. While I am not religious, I do feel that people should be able to worship in peace. my feeling on the sodomy law... why do you care about what 2 gay people are doing in the privacy of their own bedroom? Who I am sleeping is none of anyones concern, that is MY business and MY business only. I do not like public displays of affection but i don't like it from anyone. It is not limited to seeing a heterosexual couple kissing or a homosexual couple kissing. My question to the people that think homosexuality is abnormal and they should not be allowed to wed.... How would you feel if they passed laws forbidding straight people to wed? It a fact that you don't need to marry in order to have children... My view on marriage has been greatly destroyed, I always thought marriage was a union of souls, something people do when they wish to show how much they really love their partner, now i see marriage for what it truly is.... A union of genitalia...It's appaling to me and I vowed that i will never marry until marriage is once again a union of souls. Thank god in MA its still legal, the day it becomes illegal again I will start planning to move out of this country and live somewhere more accepting of people. Foliel, you can come up our way! British Columbia is very beautiful. And though I've never been anywhere near Quebec I hear it's great there in the fall. Steer clear of the plains- it's freakin' cold. I hear what you're saying about marrige and peoples parts. It really ought to be the ultimate way of showing how much you love someone, but now it's more like a way to hurt the person you're in love with.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Fri 11/14/08 11:51 PM
It's important to point out that sodomy laws have been applied in some cases in order to bring additional charges against someone who commits rape. Sodomy laws can be one more charge to bear against a violent criminal offender. Sodomy laws used to criminalize sexual behavior between consenting adults need to be eliminated. Foliel, I agree with you completely it's no ones business what goes on between two consenting adults. I too am puzzled by people who object to homosexual marriage or unions. I mean seriously ladies and gentlemen, have heterosexuals been successful at keeping marriages together? How is your marriage threatened by other people getting married? People who point to prop 8 and say it's the will of the people ought to remember that just 40 years ago in most of the US it was illegal to marry outside your race. The courts gave people that right and look around you...there are many successful inter-racial marriages. It's my bet give the social climate at the time that had that issue gone to the voters they would not have allowed it. I hope reasonable, loving and good people will continue to work for change. If you question why gay marriage is important I'd urge you to get out and meet the people and families in your community. It might change your heart and your mind. Why are there sodomy laws for homosexuals and there aren't any for heterosexuals?

daniel48706 Joined Fri 03/16/07 Posts: 8566	Sat 11/15/08 12:22 PM
They are old laws that have been in the books for decades, dating back to mroe prejudicial times. Congress(?) stepped in and stated they were unconstitutional back in 1993 and thus not upohldable. It's important to point out that sodomy laws have been applied in some cases in order to bring additional charges against someone who commits rape. Sodomy laws can be one more charge to bear against a violent criminal offender. Sodomy laws used to criminalize sexual behavior between consenting adults need to be eliminated. Foliel, I agree with you completely it's no ones business what goes on between two consenting adults. I too am puzzled by people who object to homosexual marriage or unions. I mean seriously ladies and gentlemen, have heterosexuals been successful at keeping marriages together? How is your marriage threatened by other people getting married? People who point to prop 8 and say it's the will of the people ought to remember that just 40 years ago in most of the US it was illegal to marry outside your race. The courts gave people that right and look around you...there are many successful inter-racial marriages. It's my bet give the social climate at the time that had that issue gone to the voters they would not have allowed it. I hope reasonable, loving and good people will continue to work for change. If you question why gay marriage is important I'd urge you to get out and meet the people and families in your community. It might change your heart and your mind. Why are there sodomy laws for homosexuals and there aren't any for heterosexuals?

Lynann Joined Mon 10/01/07 Posts: 4072	Sat 11/15/08 12:28 PM
There are sodomy laws for heterosexuals. In many states a little head is technically a criminal act. Heck in some states you can't legally buy or sell a vibrator. Do you feel safer now knowing that that's a crime? Should I ask who's broken the law in the last 24 hours?

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Sat 11/15/08 12:31 PM
There are sodomy laws for heterosexuals. In many states a little head is technically a criminal act. Heck in some states you can't legally buy or sell a vibrator. Do you feel safer now knowing that that's a crime? Should I ask who's broken the law in the last 24 hours? free country --- yeah the Netherlands maybe sure aint the united states

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Sat 11/15/08 01:58 PM
There are sodomy laws for heterosexuals. In many states a little head is technically a criminal act. Heck in some states you can't legally buy or sell a vibrator. Do you feel safer now knowing that that's a crime? Should I ask who's broken the law in the last 24 hours? Interesting question.

Unknow Joined Fri 10/06/06 Posts: 4066	Sat 11/15/08 02:22 PM Edited by Unknow on Sat 11/15/08 02:24 PM
There are sodomy laws for heterosexuals. In many states a little head is technically a criminal act. Heck in some states you can't legally buy or sell a vibrator. Do you feel safer now knowing that that's a crime? Should I ask who's broken the law in the last 24 hours? In Ohio, you get caught peeing outside, the charge is Public Masturbation. You get caught and you will be on the sex offenders list for years. I could be wrong?