Thanks to those that are posting... I'll give it a little more time before I work on the second part.



Does anyone have anything negative to say about me? Please post it, it won't hurt my feelings I promise!

I know not to mess with the curlers!!!!!!!!!!!!!


from what i know about you personnally, you are one of the few people that, actually has a goal in life.....I admire that...sincerely!!!
but, what I admire most is that you are actually striving for it....

You stay out to late......


You have an unbelievable appetite for the male species....


You can be a pain in your moms arce......


You never call........


you cyber way to much.....gigglesnort


I think thats it...otherwise your pretty darn near perfect.

I am taking this into three parts....



I want everyone's perspective of what a welfare recipent looks like. Are they lazy? Are they generational? Are they teenage mothers? Who from your experience and prespective are welfare recipents?

Nope not at all.....I think some are a paycheck away...others are already there. I think it's an individual case....some can surly take advantage of the system...I mean it pay more then jobs they can do. Some are lazy and yes can be gernerational. I think can be teen moms. But I also know a lot who are not at all lazy, and just use as intended to get back on their feet..

I agree!!!

Below is an article that appeared in the Penn State's student paper in 1999.....


[ Tuesday, June 15, 1999 ]

My Opinion
Usual stereotypes don't apply to every welfare recipient

Don Stewart (dbs143@psu.edu) is a senior majoring in journalism and is a Collegian sports editor.


Every time the welfare issue comes up, you hear the same old stereotypical remarks:

Why are we paying for teenaged mothers to keep having babies? Why should we support people who are too lazy to work? Their parents were on welfare, they're on welfare and their kids are going to be on welfare, so what good is it doing?


I've even heard some people go so far as to suggest that people on welfare were all less intelligent than everyone else and should be shipped off to an island somewhere. They're probably kidding, but in every joke there lies some seriousness.


Too bad the witty jokesters never realize they are in the same room with a guy whose family was once on welfare.


The stereotypical welfare recipient profiled on the nightly news represents a small minority. Most people on welfare really need it. It's not that they can't always find a job, but when you are a single mother trying to raise a few kids while flipping burgers, you might need a little extra help to get you through tough times.


When my mother applied for welfare, she had little choice. She was single and trying to feed four children with little or no support from my father. Shortly after my parents split up, the bank took the house I grew up in. We had to put most of our stuff in a rented storage garage while we moved in with my grandparents.


With no college education under her belt, my mom worked the night shift at a plastics factory and eventually started taking classes during the day at Akron University. I don't know how she managed, but after 18 months, we got another house. Then, on the day I left for Penn State, my mom got her associate degree from Akron.


We were only on welfare and foodstamps for a few years, but without those resources, the rest of my family would still be living with my grandparents.


While my little welfare experience is just one example, keep in mind that 35.6 million Americans are still living in poverty. And that's with a strong economy and low unemployment rates. There are still plenty of people who are missing out on the American dream.


But there are still plenty of people who think welfare should be reduced further or eliminated. They love how the new system has decreased the number of people on welfare from 5 million in 1994 to 2.7 million at the end of 1998.


Our imperfect society has more unfair stereotypes than the sky has stars, and the overall image of the undeserving poor is one of them: all people on welfare are just like those cheats we see on the news -- fat, lazy white trash living in a trailer park or a young, single, pregnant, uneducated black mother living in a ghetto with five children who is selling her food stamps so she can buy alcohol, etc.


First of all, the image of all welfare recipients being undeserving, unemployed and lazy is as close to reality as the Warren Report. Are there people who cheat the system? Of course, but is there any good system out there that isn't being manipulated by someone?


Overall, it's easy for people to sit back and say "Let them eat cake" when they've never had to scrape the mold from a loaf of bread. They don't know what it's like to wonder where their next meal is coming from, to live in a dump infested with roaches, to get all their clothes from the Salvation Army, to get their heat shut off in the dead of winter, or to wonder if there will be a Christmas this year.


If it wasn't for welfare, I might not be here writing this column.


And I consider myself blessed. There are millions of people who are far less fortunate than I ever was.


Still, how many people want to hide behind their stereotypes and end or drastically cut welfare. I guess Oliver Stone hit it right on the head in "Platoon":


Everybody know, the poor always being fu---d over by the rich. Always have, always will.


http://www.collegian.psu.edu/archive/1999/06/06-15-99tdc/06-15-99dops-column.asp

You don't like it when some disagrees with you, and are sometimes hypocritical in your postings.

Thank you for posting! Being real sometimes comes across as hypocritical!

I agree, no one is perfect. I like real people.

I am the first person to admit that I am a walking contradiction!

Look like anyone, some are lazy, some are teenage mothers. From experience most have been mothers (25-35, by no means young), this is the bulk of what we see at my 7-11 location. Though that isn't taking into account the environement that is that portion of this city, which is primarily minority lower-class (this of course based on what I see working at 7-11, no actual statistic).

ok... i'll be working on the last part tomorrow..


but everyone is welcome to post their true feelings about those on welfare!

You're a fence sitter who likes to look her nose down on others with a POV. You like to play devil's advocate instead of being true to your own values.

That's the short of it by what I've seen from your posts.

Okay before we run off on its a "black/minority problem", here are some stats so we can get a clear picture or start to. This is for the state of MO and notice how close black and white are.



Average Age: 28.5 years

Average Education: 11.1 years

Average Age at Birth of First Child: 23.6 years

95.9% Female, 4.1% Male

55.9% Black, 41.5% White, 2.6% Other

96.3% Single

73.2% Cases with Fewer than Two Children

Source: Social Services Division website

http://www.dss.state.mo.us is there exactly.

wow! finally someone that spoke her opinion!

But I also think tanya does that because she has not made up her mind...

I would like however to see her fight more on things she really does know or have a strong opinion on. I think she doesn't want to stir the pot...unlike her mom....who thrives to stir...Tanya wants to keep the peace.....

But I also think tanya does that because she has not made up her mind...

I would like however to see her fight more on things she really does know or have a strong opinion on. I think she doesn't want to stir the pot...unlike her mom....who thrives to stir...Tanya wants to keep the peace.....

Well the whole welfare issue is alot more than just wanting to chop people off at their legs.


When I grew up it was shameful to be on wlefare. That meant you got assistance but got off it as soon as possible. What started out as a form of temp assistance became an entitlement which also destroyed the family by kicking the husband out or you could get NOTHING at all. Do you see the difference between assistance & dependancy?

I still believe that without self control & a sense of responsiblity or moral consience we evolve into something worse. It not only becomes a societal problem but then a govt. problem.

Not to say that we shouldn't have compassion for those who find themselves in some dilemma, but try to also curb those behaviors that exaserbate the consequences & creates worse societal as well as govt. woes.

My POV on the issue of welfare.

dont know you and have no reason to...so, whatever others may say about you has no impact on me or my opinion of you...your life is your own, if you choose to put it up to public screwtiny (sp?), then expect the worse because thats what people will most likely see. And thats what happens with political figures...