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Topic: Child Support Spreadsheet required...
Jim519 Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 9203	Tue 10/28/08 04:09 PM
Finally! The courts recognized that my ex was clearly just trying to get more money.... They required her to keep a monthly Excel spreadsheet with receipts to justify her request in support. We will review this with a court appointed mediator in one year. IMO, this should be required by the one receiving the support monthly. Especially for the parent paying who is deeply involved.... Feels good to get that off my chest

buffry Joined Mon 11/05/07 Posts: 2647	Tue 10/28/08 04:20 PM
Good for you!

MirrorMirror Joined Fri 10/26/07 Posts: 89680	Tue 10/28/08 04:21 PM
Every girl Ive ever been with ,I have always thought "Do I want to be giving this chick money for the rest of my life?", and the answer was always "NO". So Ive always taken precautions from having any children.

MisKim323 Joined Sat 06/28/08 Posts: 14563	Tue 10/28/08 04:32 PM


Jim519 Joined Thu 12/27/07 Posts: 9203	Tue 10/28/08 04:37 PM
Every girl Ive ever been with ,I have always thought "Do I want to be giving this chick money for the rest of my life?", and the answer was always "NO". So Ive always taken precautions from having any children. Absolutley no regrets here from my relationship or child born

papersmile Joined Fri 10/12/07 Posts: 5148	Tue 10/28/08 04:54 PM
Finally! The courts recognized that my ex was clearly just trying to get more money.... They required her to keep a monthly Excel spreadsheet with receipts to justify her request in support. We will review this with a court appointed mediator in one year. IMO, this should be required by the one receiving the support monthly. Especially for the parent paying who is deeply involved.... Feels good to get that off my chest i agree with this, for the most part. however, what if her claim isn't based solely on what she needs to raise the children, but is so that the lifestyles of the children don't differ that greatly from the home of one parent to the other? example: one parent is quite rich, but is able to 'hide' most of their income, or their income changes drastically, and the kids get to do all sorts of stuff with them: movies, dinner, vacations abroad, toys, games, etc. while the other parent has to watch every penny just to ensure that they are fed and clothed.

willy_cents Joined Sat 07/14/07 Posts: 4471	Tue 10/28/08 05:14 PM
I like the spreadsheet idea. I know that my ex spent the money I sent her for xmas and bday presents for the kids on herself...new clothes, jewelry, etc. I think that the true solution would be to take both ppls income, add together, divide by two; That amount being the base amount to raise the kids. Then, because there is only one member with the kids, take 50% of the non-custodial parents income plus 20% per child and give it to the custodial parent. If that sum exceeds the gross income of the non-custodial parent, let the deadbeat lazy sob get another job. That will guarantee that the non custodial parent cannot give additional benefits to the kids that might make the custodial parent look "cheap" to the kids. JMAO

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Tue 10/28/08 06:32 PM
Finally! The courts recognized that my ex was clearly just trying to get more money.... They required her to keep a monthly Excel spreadsheet with receipts to justify her request in support. We will review this with a court appointed mediator in one year. IMO, this should be required by the one receiving the support monthly. Especially for the parent paying who is deeply involved.... Feels good to get that off my chest i agree with this, for the most part. however, what if her claim isn't based solely on what she needs to raise the children, but is so that the lifestyles of the children don't differ that greatly from the home of one parent to the other? example: one parent is quite rich, but is able to 'hide' most of their income, or their income changes drastically, and the kids get to do all sorts of stuff with them: movies, dinner, vacations abroad, toys, games, etc. while the other parent has to watch every penny just to ensure that they are fed and clothed. it should not matter child support should be based on a govt standard as to what it costs to raise a child if you sign up for govt assistance and the rate per child is 150 a month then that is what child support should be and it should be divided between both parents it should not be dependent on the wage of the parent if one wants the lifestyle the other parent can provide then do not let the marriage end spread the wealth has been going on in the child support arena for far to long if any support is paid above the govt guide line for assistance then there should be a spread sheet for it and be accounted for

papersmile Joined Fri 10/12/07 Posts: 5148	Tue 10/28/08 06:42 PM Edited by papersmile on Tue 10/28/08 06:43 PM
if you sign up for govt assistance and the rate per child is 150 a month then that is what child support should be and it should be divided between both parents it should not be dependent on the wage of the parent if one wants the lifestyle the other parent can provide then do not let the marriage end government assistance? what does that have to do with what the other parent should pay to support their child? $150/month/child? haha, just one of my kids eats that in a month!! and you're suggesting that it should be half?? and men actually complain about having to pay so little?? it absolutely should be dependent of the wage of the parent. you think your kids should get the same amount as paul mccartney's kids? what if the marriage ended and it was not your choice? what if the marriage was abusive? are you suggesting that the one parent should stay, just so their kids have a financially comfortable lifestyle?

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Tue 10/28/08 07:18 PM
why should it matter what the parent makes if the govt says you can support a child on x amount then you should get half of x amount if you want the spouses money stay married why should one parent pay 50 a week and another pay 200 a week the cost is the cost the only change is the wants if you want the wants stay married or let the kid stay with the parent more financially able to raise the child to charge more because the parent makes more is the same as taking from """joe the plumber""" per say if you want the money the x makes stay married

heathersaysgobucks Joined Sun 01/06/08 Posts: 5306	Tue 10/28/08 07:34 PM Edited by heathersaysgobucks on Tue 10/28/08 07:58 PM
why should it matter what the parent makes if the govt says you can support a child on x amount then you should get half of x amount if you want the spouses money stay married why should one parent pay 50 a week and another pay 200 a week the cost is the cost the only change is the wants if you want the wants stay married or let the kid stay with the parent more financially able to raise the child to charge more because the parent makes more is the same as taking from """joe the plumber""" per say if you want the money the x makes stay married Eh, decided it's not even worth it to go here. Just suffice it to say your way off base. I reserve the right to edit rants anytime I want to!!...

heathersaysgobucks Joined Sun 01/06/08 Posts: 5306	Tue 10/28/08 07:49 PM Edited by heathersaysgobucks on Tue 10/28/08 07:59 PM
Finally! The courts recognized that my ex was clearly just trying to get more money.... They required her to keep a monthly Excel spreadsheet with receipts to justify her request in support. We will review this with a court appointed mediator in one year. IMO, this should be required by the one receiving the support monthly. Especially for the parent paying who is deeply involved.... Feels good to get that off my chest Jim.....I'm glad you are fighting for equality in this as you clearly are involved in the raising of your child. I have so many other thoughts on this matter but just not gonna go there. This subject is just so sensitive for many of us. Good Luck to you and your beautiful daughter.

iceprincess Joined Tue 11/07/06 Posts: 5938	Tue 10/28/08 08:21 PM Edited by iceprincess on Tue 10/28/08 08:23 PM
My opinion on child support (being a single parent) is that it should be treated just like SSI the parent receiving should have to account for every penny, deliniating out what portion goes for housing, food, clothing, "play", transportation, ect and provide documentation supporting this.........and reports should be supplied to the non-custodial parent and state child-support office quartely.....the Gov't has a right to know where there money is being spent and so should parents who have to pay. I did this on my own for my ex when he paid and there was never any issuehe could raise about where "his' money went......to me the money is the childrens our marriage ended he was in no way obligated to support me any longer.

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Wed 10/29/08 05:51 AM
My opinion on child support (being a single parent) is that it should be treated just like SSI the parent receiving should have to account for every penny, deliniating out what portion goes for housing, food, clothing, "play", transportation, ect and provide documentation supporting this.........and reports should be supplied to the non-custodial parent and state child-support office quartely.....the Gov't has a right to know where there money is being spent and so should parents who have to pay. I did this on my own for my ex when he paid and there was never any issuehe could raise about where "his' money went......to me the money is the childrens our marriage ended he was in no way obligated to support me any longer. good for you and you are absolutely right on the child support expense records

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Wed 10/29/08 12:39 PM
why should it matter what the parent makes if the govt says you can support a child on x amount then you should get half of x amount if you want the spouses money stay married why should one parent pay 50 a week and another pay 200 a week the cost is the cost the only change is the wants if you want the wants stay married or let the kid stay with the parent more financially able to raise the child to charge more because the parent makes more is the same as taking from """joe the plumber""" per say if you want the money the x makes stay married Eh, decided it's not even worth it to go here. Just suffice it to say your way off base. I reserve the right to edit rants anytime I want to!!... thatz ok you are entitled to your opinion even if it may be wrong (as in this case) sorry couldn't resist

adj4u Joined Sun 04/08/07 Posts: 21254	Wed 10/29/08 12:48 PM
if you sign up for govt assistance and the rate per child is 150 a month then that is what child support should be and it should be divided between both parents it should not be dependent on the wage of the parent if one wants the lifestyle the other parent can provide then do not let the marriage end government assistance? what does that have to do with what the other parent should pay to support their child? $150/month/child? haha, just one of my kids eats that in a month!! and you're suggesting that it should be half?? and men actually complain about having to pay so little?? it absolutely should be dependent of the wage of the parent. you think your kids should get the same amount as paul mccartney's kids? what if the marriage ended and it was not your choice? what if the marriage was abusive? are you suggesting that the one parent should stay, just so their kids have a financially comfortable lifestyle? so if someone signs up for govt assistance they should get more money because it is not possible to support a child on what they provide to do it on ?????? the choice of why the marriage ended does not change the cost of raising the child -- that is an alimony issue and no i do not think my kids should get the same as paul mccartneys kids -- paul mccartneys kids should get the same as yours -- and if paul wants to buy them more things he can the issue is support of the kids -- not the extras the kid wants -- they need love food shelter and clothes (and they do not need designer clothes nor steak) it is child support not child whimes (nor child spoiling) and if it was set up this way maybe there would be fewer divorces and less juvenal delinquents

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Thu 10/30/08 07:21 AM
Every girl Ive ever been with ,I have always thought "Do I want to be giving this chick money for the rest of my life?", and the answer was always "NO". So Ive always taken precautions from having any children. Mirror, It's not about "giving the woman money for the rest of her life". It's about paying a portion of the cost of raising a child for 18 yrs.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Thu 10/30/08 07:25 AM Edited by Winx on Thu 10/30/08 07:27 AM
if you sign up for govt assistance and the rate per child is 150 a month then that is what child support should be and it should be divided between both parents it should not be dependent on the wage of the parent if one wants the lifestyle the other parent can provide then do not let the marriage end government assistance? what does that have to do with what the other parent should pay to support their child? $150/month/child? haha, just one of my kids eats that in a month!! and you're suggesting that it should be half?? and men actually complain about having to pay so little?? it absolutely should be dependent of the wage of the parent. you think your kids should get the same amount as paul mccartney's kids? what if the marriage ended and it was not your choice? what if the marriage was abusive? are you suggesting that the one parent should stay, just so their kids have a financially comfortable lifestyle? Your kid only eats $150 of food per month?! Mine eats more. Maybe that's why mine grew 5" in one year and I am constantly buying them bigger clothes.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Thu 10/30/08 07:29 AM
Finally! The courts recognized that my ex was clearly just trying to get more money.... They required her to keep a monthly Excel spreadsheet with receipts to justify her request in support. We will review this with a court appointed mediator in one year. IMO, this should be required by the one receiving the support monthly. Especially for the parent paying who is deeply involved.... Feels good to get that off my chest i agree with this, for the most part. however, what if her claim isn't based solely on what she needs to raise the children, but is so that the lifestyles of the children don't differ that greatly from the home of one parent to the other? example: one parent is quite rich, but is able to 'hide' most of their income, or their income changes drastically, and the kids get to do all sorts of stuff with them: movies, dinner, vacations abroad, toys, games, etc. while the other parent has to watch every penny just to ensure that they are fed and clothed. it should not matter child support should be based on a govt standard as to what it costs to raise a child if you sign up for govt assistance and the rate per child is 150 a month then that is what child support should be and it should be divided between both parents it should not be dependent on the wage of the parent if one wants the lifestyle the other parent can provide then do not let the marriage end spread the wealth has been going on in the child support arena for far to long if any support is paid above the govt guide line for assistance then there should be a spread sheet for it and be accounted for Do not let the marriage end to maintain the same lifestyle? There are too many variables to go into here. But..come on..that's not reality. Spread the wealth with child support? Hello? The woman pays for everything when raising the child. The man helps. He helps!!! It doesn't even cover half. Sheesh.

Winx Joined Fri 08/31/07 Posts: 39051	Thu 10/30/08 07:30 AM
why should it matter what the parent makes if the govt says you can support a child on x amount then you should get half of x amount if you want the spouses money stay married why should one parent pay 50 a week and another pay 200 a week the cost is the cost the only change is the wants if you want the wants stay married or let the kid stay with the parent more financially able to raise the child to charge more because the parent makes more is the same as taking from """joe the plumber""" per say if you want the money the x makes stay married That's bull.