i guess but its sooner than later there is a huge spirtual battle well see how it goes have you guys been to he movies latley have you seen the previews for MILK about the gay activist or is it just my state????

thats all them old codgers down there humping! thats why! lol.

omfg no way. my ex had a lebian sister who would put on gay news so i forced myself never to learn about any gay activists. lol.

No I havnt but VOTE this year, there are obviously issues you feel strongly about..Peace

How is it sacred when the divorce rate in this country is over 50%?
And also who the hell are you to tell people that you dont even know that they cant express their love for each other in a way that THEY might consider to be sacred.

Now thats just stupid.
Ever heard of statutory rape? Its because there are already laws in place to protect MINORS. Like a minor cant even enter a marriage without PARENTAL CONSENT. And sex with animals is also illegal since an animal cant give consent and therefore it constitutes animal abuse. But you'd know all this if your church wasnt so busy burning books and spreading lies.
But yeah thanks for confusing the issue by trying to link homosexuality (which ISNT a choice) to bestiality and pedophilia.

Aw come on, I know your smarter than that. Its way more indepth than that. Lets say your girlfriend gets hurt and is in the hospital. You dont get to talk to the doctors, or have any say about her treatment or best interests because your not MARRIED. Thats just one instance. I can think of a lot more, like Inheritance Law, which isnt covered by a civil union. You would want your money and stuff to go to your spouse and family right?

Prop 8 is effing wrong because it is legalized discrimination against AMERICAN CITIZENS. Which happens to be UNCONSTITUTIONAL. And there are a ton of legal and financial reasons that aren't covered by a civil union. This doesnt even scratch the surface of the churches pathetic "moral" argument anyway. How about explaing to me how a SUBJECTIVE set of rules like MORALS should be made into legislation that purposely denies legal rights to a group of people that are (GASP!) different than you. Thats great you have gay friends, Im sure being able to say that helps you sleep at night. Though I wonder what they think of you wanting to take away their right to marry whom they choose.

Forgive me for speaking bluntly, but the statement "Marriage is sacred" is complete bull****. Britney Spears' 55 hour marriage, Las Vegas, city hall marriages, and the immense divorce rate of this country are ALL testament to the fact that marriage is one thing:

A piece of paper.

If your imaginary person in the sky disagrees, then that's fine, in your mind, your marriage will be real and the rest will be affronts that will land the horrible perpetrators in hell to burn for all eternity.


As for this "Man and woman" business, I'd like those of you who don't already, to know that there aren't two genders, there are three. The third is called "Intersexual" And occurs naturally in 1% of the population, and in some cultures are considered spiritually sacred. When someone is born intersexual, their parents are strongly advised to give their child hormone therapy to push him/her inthe direction of one sex.

As a side note, I'd like to comment on the humor of the fact that our society has ostracized these people so much and so far, that we don't even have a pronoun to describe them in the third person.

And by the way, being homosexual is not a choice, a choice is remaining ignorant and uninformed on a subject and still posting on a forum complaining about the world moving towards being a remotely fair and peaceful place.

And I also keep my religious beliefs to myself because I HAVE NO PLACE JUDGING ANYONE BUT MYSELF.

And about 90% of all the WARS in the history of the world were started by Churches and Religions spreading hate, fear, and ignorance. Because that's how they stay in power.

What blows my mind is the audacity of people that think its their duty to rob others of their individual right to happiness. You should be ashamed of yourself and your ignorance, but thats between you and what your so-called morals.


edit: And at the end of the day Gay people should have EVERY RIGHT to be as miserable as the rest of the Married people in this puritanicaly repressed country...

And Brittany Spears
PERFECT example of how NOT sacred this "institution" of marriage is treated. So exactly HOW does Gays marrying tarnish that? Hahahahahahaha... "Gay marriage is a threat to families" whatta joke.

Let Freedom ring, were all equal.

They have all the right to be as miserable as the rest of us when it comes to marriage.


VOTE NO ON THE biggoted piece of legislation, and dont forget the 11 commandment, KEEP THY RELIGION TO THYSELF!

We has imperfect people have no right to subjegate another class of people just because there views may be different!!

To vote YES, brings this country a little closer to fascism and a little further away from what is truly AMERICAN!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Vll-t0H6A

Well thanks I thought I was the only one going to stand up..Theres alot of hate in those two posters, and using the church as an excuse..Its sad!!!!

I will always have words for those who do evil under the guise of "righteousness". Taking away someone's freedom to celebrate love is disturbingly ignorant and evil.

not this crap again..... just let them get married.

you don't have to go to the wedding, you don't have to buy them anything. it has no affect on you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GG7ddWLF_Fk

So, because you say they can't have biological children, they don't need to get married?

yay so now i hate people?! **** you dude. i hate evryone, my feelings are that gay people can be gay but why get married? and to SOME marriage is sacred, its a tradition and a right. and the bible says gay is wrong so who the **** are any of you progressive people to poo-poo on what is 3/4 of you people's faith? get yer head out of your asses please. this is a forum for discussion not bashing.

What about those who don't go by what the bible says?

then do you homie. but dont be getting on others about their beliefs. i personally think the bible is dumb, etc. but im not gonna tell them they CANT believe something or that theyre "oppressing" anyone. thats just ignorant. the church does what it wants anyway, they molest little boys, start wars, and poke their noses in govt buisness which makes the govt poke back. seperation of church my aunt aggie's ass.

you post you want all in cali dead..F...you and your hating little azz..Time to grow uo man if you consider yourself one..

Okay, I didn't see anyone catch this on the first page and this is sending me into fits of giggles...

How is the lesbian divorce rate 108%?

Anyway, vote yes on prop 8. ;)

awwwwww. so i hate humanity so i am a "hater"? how often do you hug everyone you see? do you love everyone? i really doubt it.

Exsplain 108%..LOL

You seem so angry all the time in the forums.