Topic: The mission is done
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Fri 10/17/08 05:47 AM
and the troops go home. Iraq has its own standing army and manage to fight its own problems.

After two years Iraq has a conflict with Iran and a full pledge war happens.

What would you do as the President of the United States?

Would you help Iraq or would you let them fight their own war?


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Fri 10/17/08 05:53 AM
Edited by ddn122 on Fri 10/17/08 05:53 AM
ummmm...

We never leave.....

germany...still there

japan.....still there

korea.....still there

Cuba...still there



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Fri 10/17/08 05:58 AM

ummmm...

We never leave.....

germany...still there

japan.....still there

korea.....still there

Cuba...still there





very true but let us say the president decided to send all of his troops to afghanistan for the situation got so bad that he needed to do this. What would you do?

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Fri 10/17/08 06:01 AM
the president needs the approval of congress to keep troops anywhere.....over 60 days...i think....30 days....not certain the time frame...

Why do so many people believe our president has all this power?...it takes congress to make laws not a solitary man...

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Fri 10/17/08 06:02 AM

the president needs the approval of congress to keep troops anywhere.....over 60 days...i think....30 days....not certain the time frame...

Why do so many people believe our president has all this power?...it takes congress to make laws not a solitary man...


No I know that but let us say it is a done deal that the troops are all in Afghanistan. Iraq has no American Troops there, yet they have a war with Iran two years later.

What would you do?

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Fri 10/17/08 06:07 AM
ok

i'll play....

irag and iran....we have "played" both sides of that war for decades....the sahw......saddam...etc...

Afghanistan....if the most prolific nuclear power in the world spent 12 (?) years there with out accomplishing their goal...i don't understand why we think we (USA) can do any better...

Pakistan has me very scared with the recent US missle attack...kills 6......and the Paki gov't has "no comment"....

launching missiles into a sovereign nation that has nuclear capabilities is not a "good" idea


now i am rambling......."war, what is it good for?"

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Fri 10/17/08 06:09 AM
i think i will go back to the Native American Blessing thread.....it is peaceful in there....

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Fri 10/17/08 06:37 AM
Yes I agree war is horrible!

But you are commander in chief! What are you going to do?

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Fri 10/17/08 07:33 AM


ummmm...

We never leave.....

germany...still there

japan.....still there

korea.....still there

Cuba...still there





very true but let us say the president decided to send all of his troops to afghanistan for the situation got so bad that he needed to do this. What would you do?

We should never send all of our troops out of Iraq untill Iran is a LOT more peacefull.

With troops in Afganistan and troops in Iraq we have Iran in a pincher. If they get froggy they end up in a two front war. Strategic Tactics!

Looks to me like someone in our government was thinking with the long view.

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Fri 10/17/08 09:44 AM

ummmm...

We never leave.....

germany...still there

japan.....still there

korea.....still there

Cuba...still there



We are going to be forced to leave due to our poor economics.

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Fri 10/17/08 09:50 AM
If i were a dictator here... I would pull our troops out of everywhere. Sell the bases back to their original countries. Stop spending billions on foreign aid as it is unwanted and we need to continue to help ouselves a bit before we can help someone else.

Military replaces department of homeland security, FEMA is replace by the national guard.

That would saveabout 2 trillion a year...

Put all the extra money from the bases and cuts towards the deficit.

Once the deficit is paid off, i would instill a new monetary plan that our economic think tank came up with.

If Iran and Iraq duke it out, that's their problem. We secure our own borders, if they come to us, then we would destroy, quick, swift, and to the point. Then we would just leave.

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Sat 10/18/08 07:51 AM

If i were a dictator here... I would pull our troops out of everywhere. Sell the bases back to their original countries. Stop spending billions on foreign aid as it is unwanted and we need to continue to help ouselves a bit before we can help someone else.

Military replaces department of homeland security, FEMA is replace by the national guard.

That would saveabout 2 trillion a year...

Put all the extra money from the bases and cuts towards the deficit.

Once the deficit is paid off, i would instill a new monetary plan that our economic think tank came up with.

If Iran and Iraq duke it out, that's their problem. We secure our own borders, if they come to us, then we would destroy, quick, swift, and to the point. Then we would just leave.

If we gotta have a dictator might as well make it good.

Round up all the illegals. Give them pistols and put them in front line units. Take over the world and rule with absolute domination.

shoot anyone that even looks like they are going to question my right to be dictator. Loot all the countries, take all their resources, give them back pollution and blasted cities.

Like Iraq... Don't they have a surplus... Didn't we go there in the first place to loot them. Lets get on with it... Loot them and then let them all die.

Yall are sick.

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Sat 10/18/08 08:28 AM
Edited by Drivinmenutz on Sat 10/18/08 08:30 AM


If i were a dictator here... I would pull our troops out of everywhere. Sell the bases back to their original countries. Stop spending billions on foreign aid as it is unwanted and we need to continue to help ouselves a bit before we can help someone else.

Military replaces department of homeland security, FEMA is replace by the national guard.

That would saveabout 2 trillion a year...

Put all the extra money from the bases and cuts towards the deficit.

Once the deficit is paid off, i would instill a new monetary plan that our economic think tank came up with.

If Iran and Iraq duke it out, that's their problem. We secure our own borders, if they come to us, then we would destroy, quick, swift, and to the point. Then we would just leave.

If we gotta have a dictator might as well make it good.

Round up all the illegals. Give them pistols and put them in front line units. Take over the world and rule with absolute domination.

shoot anyone that even looks like they are going to question my right to be dictator. Loot all the countries, take all their resources, give them back pollution and blasted cities.

Like Iraq... Don't they have a surplus... Didn't we go there in the first place to loot them. Lets get on with it... Loot them and then let them all die.

Yall are sick.


Woa, calm down bro... For starters the "dictator" thing was just figurative, meaning, "if i had the power".

But i suspect your feelings are more about Iraq, and how just abandoning it would leave the place to tear itself apart, and let millions die. You are correct. Syria would have a part of it, Iran would have a part of it, im sure the turks would try and take a part of it, etc.

My heart bleeds for that country. I am a veteran of this iraq war. Spent some time on the front lines, sweat a lot,even bled a little, been on 150ish combat ops there. I know many of the people. But i also know military tactics. It isa hopeless fight going the way we are. It will turn into another Korea, but the problem is the middle east will always be in turmoil unless we take over every country there. When we accomplish our mission in iraq, i won't lie, we will have permanent bases there. We tie ourselves down by trying to "win the hearts and minds" while fighting an enemy we can't identify.

If we wanted to start a war, first we officially declare it. Since we deemed afganistan a threat in the first place, and we couldn't get their government to work with us, since most were taliban at the time, we should have gone it, guns blazing. Seal off the country, sweep across it completely with the 350,000 troops. All civilians go into concentration camps (treated fairly of course), every house gets searched, anyone with excessive terrorist propoganda/ illegal weapons gets arrested and charged accordingly. When it's all over (it would be over within a year, hand them a check for the damages, and be gone. Let them know next time it happens, the damages won't be paid for. Then you move on to Iraq and do the same thing, if that country ever posed a serious clear and present danger to the u.s. One thing at a time, no nitpicking. Swift, harsh, to the point, no arguments.

But, if we didn't have our agressive foreign policy than we wouldn't be in the mess in the first place. So i say we fix that right away. I say even the first time we got involved in iraq we were doing the U.N.'s job. Then based on a broken treaty, we went in again to finish the U.N.'s job. Since the world isn't paying for most of our expenses we can't afford to be "the world police".

I personally think we need emergency procedures to save a sinking ship, that fell victim to the burden of overspending, unbacked money, and outsourcing our jobs in an attempt for globalization.

The terrorists we need to worry about are in washington, and they are pushing for a noth american union, instead of the united states. This was PROVEN time and time again. Look at Europe, they adopted the euro. They have open borders. Thats what they are pushing for us. We WERE a super power, until the powers that be melted us into the rest of the world...

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Sat 10/18/08 08:36 AM
the united states will never leave

they will keep iraq as a military presence in the region

and if iran attacks iraq and i was president

i would give support to iraq

you bet

iraq did not hold our embassy staff hostage for over a year

and then elect one of the terrorist to lead their country

and i would they the u n to pack their bags if they did not like it

where were they when iran attacked u s soil

granted carter was a coward over this but wrong is wrong and it was a world threat possibility

they (u n) condemn the u s a lot and sometimes rightly so

but when the u n sees atrocities prerpatrated agianst the u s they do nothing to handle it -- what other choice is there but to handle them by the u s



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Sat 10/18/08 08:39 AM
We really need to withdraw from the U.N. ...

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Sat 10/18/08 09:04 AM
If I thought war was an answer to anything, which I don't, but say I did, then I would give my enemy war until he didn't want it anymore. Right now THEY think that war is the answer to their problems just like Japan and Germany and the Confederacy. The only answer was to give them war and make it so bad they never wanted it again. Sherman and Harry Truman knew how to end a war.

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Sat 10/18/08 01:37 PM

and the troops go home. Iraq has its own standing army and manage to fight its own problems.

After two years Iraq has a conflict with Iran and a full pledge war happens.

What would you do as the President of the United States?

Would you help Iraq or would you let them fight their own war?




Don't worry, if Barry is elected, we will probably see something of this magnitude.