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Edited by
tribo
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from the book:
Before the final Judgment What will have to take place before the final judgment is that the church [body of Christ] will have to be a unified body. No sectarian groups can be random in their thought or convictions of what is truth for them as is done now. This means that evangelical, fundamental, catholic, preterist, and all other sectarian views must be coagulated into one understood and agreed upon dogmatic belief. This would be the Major sign of the time when god comes to judge the world at large. But there are many things which stand in the way so I do not expect to see this in my life time nor my sons or grandsons time here on earth. The reasons are clear – one – for the church to be what god said it would be, would require the entire world to be ruled by a theocratic one world government/religion, that I don’t see happening any time soon. Now things could happen to quicken this scenario of gods return but it would be a multi happening of both natural and man made disasters. Here is a scenario of what could happen. The world could go through a devastating time where mega disasters such as are being predicted by the scientist all happened at once or close to each other, mega earthquakes, mega volcanic eruptions, mega tsunami’s, which could bring on temperature drops, rising of the seas and tides, and others following these things, with a lack of fuel and most likely crop/food production, this could then lead to wars over these commodities and even nuclear activities among nations in what one would or might call “limited” nuclear wars amongst nations like India and Pakistan, north Korea, china and the USSR, and of course the USA and all who would endanger her survival. If such a scenario did take place it is possible that anywhere from half or more of the world’s population could be extinguished from the face of the earth. If by chance the majority of the survivors were Christian, it might then be possible for them to unite and become a world theocratic government ruled by their beliefs in the god of the bible. If it is to take place as the world is today then I don’t see it being for a very long time but with this scenario – it would or could be possible. |
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Edited by
Abracadabra
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Thu 10/09/08 10:33 AM
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The day that Christians get along with each other will be the day hell freezes over.
So there won't be any need for judgment since there won't be any hell to go to anymore. Seriously, I've said it many times before, if the so-called "Christians" should somehow manage to convert the whole world to Christianity, that would only be the begining of the real Holy Wars. They already don't get along. Catholics and Protestants hate each other. And the Protestants are so confused and broken up into so many different denominations and sects that is it truly even fair to classify them all as the same religion? Christians claim that "Christianity" is the single largest religion on the planet. But that's really a farce, because they break up all the other religions into different catagories. If we actually combined all the 'Pantheistic' religions under one label, then Pantheism would by far be the world's largest religion. In the meantime, Judaism, Christianity, and Islam like to think they are at center stage, and they most certainly are with respect to causing political unrest and violence. The pantheistic religions are so peaceful they never make the news and therefore aren't highly visible. But they're out there! |
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The final Judgement is after Yahshua has been ruling on earth for a 1000 years. People will know of his ways and thier will be pease. At the end of this 1000 years Satan is let loose from being chained and he and his demons enter those who are not really of Yahweh and will come to battle again against Yahshua.
Yahshua will destroy this army and put satan and his false prophet into the bottomless pit never to be heard of again. At this time are all the dead that was not in the 1st ressurrection will be raised and the Book of Life will be opened which has all thier works in thier and they will be judges by thier works. This then is when we see the Mansions Yahshua spoke of he went to build and it will come down out of heaven adorned as a Bride for her husband and all tears will be wiped away and the Tree of life and the 4 streams from Gen. once again will flow out of Jerusalem and the leaves of the tree which produces 12 fruits will be for the healing of the nations and we will know death no more.... Blessings....Miles |
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And what happened to the dogs and cats mommy?
Oh, they lived happily ever after too, now drink your milk and I'll tuck you in. |
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And what happened to the dogs and cats mommy? Oh, they lived happily ever after too, now drink your milk and I'll tuck you in. Me thinks me see some purposed humor in your comment Makick man - |
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The scriptures agree from front to back.
All these who come up with extra stuff are liars. Decievers workers of Evil. I saw where they found that old bible i went to the web site and I would have to ask myself/ Why is it going to take a team of experts a year to put this bible on the internet. They apperently had know problem reading it. So why such a delay? Could it be they want it to seem in a light against the scriptures? That is thier whole porpuse? 2 Peter 3:1-7 Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Master and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation." 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of Elohim the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of unholy men NKJV 2012 will really speed Peter's words along. This is what these men are. They want to put this on the internet for all to see. Thats good. I question why they are going to take a year to do it.. Shalom....Miles |
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Excellent sharing, Miles.
Straight from the Word of God... and in Agreement with the Word. As it Should be..... |
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The scriptures agree from front to back. All these who come up with extra stuff are liars. Deceivers workers of Evil. I saw where they found that old bible i went to the web site and I would have to ask myself/ Why is it going to take a team of experts a year to put this bible on the Internet. They apparently had know problem reading it. So why such a delay? Could it be they want it to seem in a light against the scriptures? That is their whole purpose? 2 Peter 3:1-7 Beloved, I now write to you this second epistle (in both of which I stir up your pure minds by way of reminder), 2 that you may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us, the apostles of the Master and Savior, 3 knowing this first: that scoffers will come in the last days, walking according to their own lusts, 4 and saying, "Where is the promise of His coming? For since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of creation." 5 For this they willfully forget: that by the word of Elohim the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of water and in the water, 6 by which the world that then existed perished, being flooded with water. 7 But the heavens and the earth which are now preserved by the same word, are reserved for fire until the day of judgment and perdition of unholy men NKJV 2012 will really speed Peter's words along. This is what these men are. They want to put this on the internet for all to see. That's good. I question why they are going to take a year to do it.. Shalom....Miles Looking forward to a past event AD 70 is in my opinion not a very sound thing to do - but to each his own my friend - shalom |
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from the book: Before the final Judgment What will have to take place before the final judgment is that the church [body of Christ] will have to be a unified body. No sectarian groups can be random in their thought or convictions of what is truth for them as is done now. This means that evangelical, fundamental, catholic, preterist, and all other sectarian views must be coagulated into one understood and agreed upon dogmatic belief. This would be the Major sign of the time when god comes to judge the world at large. But there are many things which stand in the way so I do not expect to see this in my life time nor my sons or grandsons time here on earth. The reasons are clear – one – for the church to be what god said it would be, would require the entire world to be ruled by a theocratic one world government/religion, that I don’t see happening any time soon. Now things could happen to quicken this scenario of gods return but it would be a multi happening of both natural and man made disasters. Here is a scenario of what could happen. The world could go through a devastating time where mega disasters such as are being predicted by the scientist all happened at once or close to each other, mega earthquakes, mega volcanic eruptions, mega tsunami’s, which could bring on temperature drops, rising of the seas and tides, and others following these things, with a lack of fuel and most likely crop/food production, this could then lead to wars over these commodities and even nuclear activities among nations in what one would or might call “limited” nuclear wars amongst nations like India and Pakistan, north Korea, china and the USSR, and of course the USA and all who would endanger her survival. If such a scenario did take place it is possible that anywhere from half or more of the world’s population could be extinguished from the face of the earth. If by chance the majority of the survivors were Christian, it might then be possible for them to unite and become a world theocratic government ruled by their beliefs in the god of the bible. If it is to take place as the world is today then I don’t see it being for a very long time but with this scenario – it would or could be possible. Though I do not disagree with your insight as to the events that are likely to occur before the final judgement - I thought it might be worth pointing out that your perception of what the "church" is - that of a varying group of sects who profess a belief in Jesus - could quite possibly differ greatly from what the actual church is, which is those who are sealed with the Holy Spirit. It is safe to assume that there is a particular "order of events" that occurs in the life of one who believes which leads to salvation. Initially - there is the fall. Then the call of repentance from God, the answer to that call, and the sealing of the Holy Spirit. This is done quite independently of any particular Sect or denomination - so anticipating that there needs to be an alinement of doctrinal beliefs of such as these is not necessarily the criteria from which one should assess the coming judgement. All who follow "the Roman road" to salvation are the ones who hold the common belief that necessitates the church, and this is not something that can easily be witnessed by mere observation. This is evidenced by Jesus' claim that "I never knew you" to those who claimed allegence is not enough to bear witness to "church" membership. That being said, it is likely not so easy to determine that the time is either far away, or close at hand. However, your scenario has great possibility to being accurate. If the prophecies of Revelation are to be believed in the non-Preterist scenario - then the signs to look for are the "league of European nations", the rebuilding of the Temple, a peace treaty with Isreal, and the appearance of the Two Witnesses. At this time - the Antichrist, who has already been amoungst the people - will rise to power, and, well - you know the rest. |
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Don't forget Christ's Olivet Discourse... wars & rumors of wars... He says...have no fear for these are the BEGINNINGS of troubles.
I think what has been prophesied in these last days is also happening... the great shaking of everything that can be shook ...it was told prior & is coming true. It's God wish to bring people together & to repentance. To let people know He exists, He is here...& He is a great help for those who will believe in Him, & great fear & loathing to those who won't. There is nothing greater to get humanity's attention than when things are taken out of their control.. like with the stock market. Remember...Finance, war, religion, politics, & geo-physical... five places that belong to God. |
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The battle of armegedon is going on in your head only ! All of the other bad acts that humans do, are a result of that battle in your heads! Quit trying to prove some one else is less or more than your self, to yourself, or to anyone else!
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In our head.. Explain to me Zech 14:9-14 and that being in our heads.
Eljay.. the second group of people are the Epriam prophecy we see in Rev 7:11. The great croud who gives thier lives while the beast hunts them as we see in Rev 12:17 they are called the Remenat. So the people all believe it is the second group probally believes when the 2 witnesses come alive. Then they know. They have been on the fence you might say not sure what is real. But then they have such faith they are willing to give thier lives for Messiah.That is all I was really saying. thanks for the words of wisdom though as I see a Faith in you that does not wander. Shalom my Friend...Miles |
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In our head.. Explain to me Zech 14:9-14 and that being in our heads. Eljay.. the second group of people are the Epriam prophecy we see in Rev 7:11. The great croud who gives thier lives while the beast hunts them as we see in Rev 12:17 they are called the Remenat. So the people all believe it is the second group probally believes when the 2 witnesses come alive. Then they know. They have been on the fence you might say not sure what is real. But then they have such faith they are willing to give thier lives for Messiah.That is all I was really saying. thanks for the words of wisdom though as I see a Faith in you that does not wander. Shalom my Friend...Miles |
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In our head.. Explain to me Zech 14:9-14 and that being in our heads. Eljay.. the second group of people are the Epriam prophecy we see in Rev 7:11. The great croud who gives thier lives while the beast hunts them as we see in Rev 12:17 they are called the Remenat. So the people all believe it is the second group probally believes when the 2 witnesses come alive. Then they know. They have been on the fence you might say not sure what is real. But then they have such faith they are willing to give thier lives for Messiah.That is all I was really saying. thanks for the words of wisdom though as I see a Faith in you that does not wander. Shalom my Friend...Miles We are told noone has seen Yahweh and Lived. This day will come in the evening time and night will turn inti day. John and James saw the Transfigeration with Yahshua so bright they could not see him. All these people you see killed are killed by the brightness of his coming. No nuclear bombs or anything such. What you see as analogies are in your head. You spout off your knowledge of the Mark of the Beast yet you do not have a clue. You need to learn what is analogies and what is not in the scriptures and very few things having to do with the Messiah are..Shalom...Miles |
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Thank you dear Lord for the gift of discernment, it makes it so easy to identify the spirit of a person. I surely would not like to be un-equally yolked with anyone again!
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you are such a pessimist.. You claim knowledge and yet can not produce it.Then you say a prideful prayer because you know that your tantilising is being brought out. This is the type stuff that Prov. 6 speaks of.Never saying anything to get people to try and follow what you are saying as wisdom. Thier is no wisdom thier.And you know it or you would show directly what you are saying. To say the mark of the Beast is a Lie. Wow what news. That says nothing of what or how it is brought about. I have said straight forward what i believe it is. It will not be anything the people are against or even think anything of. They will joyfully accept it because they believe it is the right thing to do.You need to get the good book out and read it with an open heart and not a prideful one and the Spirit of Truth may open your eyes...Shalom...Miles
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you are such a pessimist.. You claim knowledge and yet can not produce it.Then you say a prideful prayer because you know that your tantilising is being brought out. This is the type stuff that Prov. 6 speaks of.Never saying anything to get people to try and follow what you are saying as wisdom. Thier is no wisdom thier.And you know it or you would show directly what you are saying. To say the mark of the Beast is a Lie. Wow what news. That says nothing of what or how it is brought about. I have said straight forward what i believe it is. It will not be anything the people are against or even think anything of. They will joyfully accept it because they believe it is the right thing to do.You need to get the good book out and read it with an open heart and not a prideful one and the Spirit of Truth may open your eyes...Shalom...Miles |
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Edited by
Milesoftheusa
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Fri 10/10/08 10:12 AM
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i know exactly what gen3 says. do you know who has that mark? Tell me what the dieing fig tree means. I would like to know.. Shalom..Miles
oh lie and lieing how do you seperate them? / |
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Well I reckon that the end will never come then..
You get two or more in his name. You end up with two or more interpretations of his word. Peoples is such funny creatures. |
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i know exactly what gen3 says. do you know who has that mark? Tell me what the dieing fig tree means. I would like to know.. Shalom..Miles / |
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