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Topic: In your OWN words…..
Thomas27's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:01 AM
Without cutting and pasting all these articles about what others think is wrong with the Economy, Presidential Candidates, Current President, Federal Bailouts, War in Iraq, etc...

Pick one thing you think is an issue in some detail, and then give your solution.

Example:

Problem. There's always talk about how "We love our Troops fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan", yet nothing positive is ever said about what they are doing. We are constantly reminded of the death toll and that we shouldn't even be over there in the first place. How can we say "Thank you for your service" and then turn around and say, "What we are doing over there is wrong"? I believe, having served in the Military, that for every troop led astray by the negativity surrounding the war, the more lives of Americans become at risk.

Solution. Regardless of how we got there, the reality is, that we are There! I believe that more support should be shown for the Men and Women fighting overseas. I believe that we should in fact look for something positive in what we are doing, and I do believe there are some positives, so that way those men and women believe in what they are doing. That way, when they do come back home, Hopefully more will come back alive. On this issue alone, McCain and Palin are the only ones that I've heard say anything positive about the War in Iraq. They are the only ones that have said the word Victory! Even if most don't believe in the war, We do need to believe in our Troops!


Please don't cut and paste articles. You may use an article as a reference, but please don't paste it. Give your perception and your solution.

This is not a Thread for bashing people on their views. It is meant as a thread to see what the Everyday Average American thinks are problems and what they think is the solution to those problems.

Thank you for your serious posts.

Thomas

wouldee's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:19 AM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 09/21/08 10:20 AM
the democrats must walk before they run.


Why are they running for office?

Congress of the last two years has a lower approval rating than Bush's dismal rating.

The democratically led Congress is ineffective, complacent, indecisive, uninspired, amd generally unable to accomplish anything reminiscent of the respect and admiration of the American people and with such a dismally bankrupt single digit approval rating have failed to act to explain or improve that vote of low confidence by the American people.

MOstly democratic voters, by sheer numbers, this embarrassing level of confidence in the democrats by democrats themselves displays the democrats incompetence and lack of purpose and direction and inability to lead the nation.


Issues are not important considering these facts concerning democrats and their leadership abilities, as graded by the majority of democrats themselves.



In conclusion....

it would be the derilection of duty and unpatriotic lapse of judgement of this nation as an entirety to allow the democrats to decide for themselves what is best for this nation.

Obama is a member of that Congress of 2006 and his freshman year of inaugural inclusion i those remarkably low approval ratings is a direct reflection of Obama and his handlers ineptitude and in consequence, a reflection of the incompetence of the Democratic Party itself.

After all, the party is people and people are voters and voters are predominately dissatisfied with themselves.


They need to silenced and the inability to accomplish anything requires that they hold authority and responsibility equal to their abilities.

Let them participate as spectators.

That is the threshold of their collective competence.


Vote for McCain/Palin and for real change

real change will come when this dismally low single digit approval rating of democrats is improved.

Things will get done that are for the good of the country.


think

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:25 AM
Beg to differ...

Real change will only come when WE start impeaching congressmen that vote for something WE have no intention of supporting.

Real change will only come when WE start impeaching congressmen that play party politics in the face of crisis...

Real change will only come when WE act.

And act we must... Our grandchildrens future depends upon it.


wouldee's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:31 AM
Edited by wouldee on Sun 09/21/08 10:32 AM
all the more reason to elect a President that isn't a democrat.

The democrats prove daily, and have for the last two years of Congress' watch that democrats are the more inept partisan faction of the American representative governance.


By voting, this nation will demonstrate whether or not the problem is the politicians themselves or the American people as a majority rule mob of emotionally insecure and immature incompetents.


yup.



think

warmachine's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:37 AM
Thats easy for me, I've been talking about it for awhile now.
Monetary policy. We have an unconstitutional federal reserve system, a central bank, thats just creating currency out of nothing. Fiat currencies historically are unstable and easily manipulated.

By returning to the Gold standard or at least using a commodity based system, we'd face some hard times for awhile, but the economy would self regulate and there wouldn't be anymore of this global economy crap causing meltdowns of our markets here at home.

Another aspect of the monetary policy in this nation that needs to be retaken is the fact that the constitution explicitly states that congress is the only government entity with the power to coin legal tender, this needs to be reinstituted, who should head that up, the only guy with the understanding of Austrian economics, which is Congressman Ron Paul. I love it that he's being brought on just about every channel there is to talk about what happened, since he was the only one talking about this, especially during the primaries.

Yep, problem number one is the monetary policy, deficeit spending is a close second.

t22learner's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:37 AM
Elect Barack Obama and sweep as many Republicans out of congress as possible. Can anyone on these boards contend the 8 years under George W. Bush have been in any substantive way better then 8 years under Bill Clinton?

warmachine's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:43 AM

Elect Barack Obama and sweep as many Republicans out of congress as possible. Can anyone on these boards contend the 8 years under George W. Bush have been in any substantive way better then 8 years under Bill Clinton?


However, you have to admit that it's the Clintonian era that opened the door up for the Bushies to do what they have.

Especially in the areas of "free trade" and the economy in general.
The deregulation stuff started under his watch.

Thomas27's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:48 AM

This is not a Thread for bashing people on their views. It is meant as a thread to see what the Everyday Average American thinks are problems and what they think is the solution to those problems.

Thank you for your serious posts.

Thomas



If you have a response to what somebody else wrote, Restate your perception and give your solution.

Lynann's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:50 AM
When I first starting posting here I posted largely in my own words. In response to those that dismissed my posts as lacking facts I started to include source material and other links.

I would like to think facts and links are more creditable than random name calling.

Free trade and deregulation are not the same things by the way.

I am with Warmachine on a return to the gold standard and the dissolution of the Federal Reserve. However I think that horse is way outta the barn...the barn has burned as well.

wouldee's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:55 AM

Elect Barack Obama and sweep as many Republicans out of congress as possible. Can anyone on these boards contend the 8 years under George W. Bush have been in any substantive way better then 8 years under Bill Clinton?



This was already done.

Democrats hold the majority in all of Congress and control both houses.

how can it be that republicans are to blame?

as i have said, democrats are inept .

Democrats cannot see that they themselves are the problem.

proof is in how you describe the problem as being republicans in a democratically contraolled Congress doing nothing.

And the approval rating of democrats of democrats shows clearly that democrats don't like their leaders.

Always trasferring and projecting their self hatred on ghosts of their own imagination.


No other rebuttal is necessary.

This ppost I am responding to is the first best response of democrats.

The ones with a conscience cannot even post an apology or a remorseful repentence.


think

warmachine's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:58 AM


Elect Barack Obama and sweep as many Republicans out of congress as possible. Can anyone on these boards contend the 8 years under George W. Bush have been in any substantive way better then 8 years under Bill Clinton?



This was already done.

Democrats hold the majority in all of Congress and control both houses.

how can it be that republicans are to blame?

as i have said, democrats are inept .

Democrats cannot see that they themselves are the problem.

proof is in how you describe the problem as being republicans in a democratically contraolled Congress doing nothing.

And the approval rating of democrats of democrats shows clearly that democrats don't like their leaders.

Always trasferring and projecting their self hatred on ghosts of their own imagination.


No other rebuttal is necessary.

This ppost I am responding to is the first best response of democrats.

The ones with a conscience cannot even post an apology or a remorseful repentence.


think


It's a false choice that reinforces the old mentality of tribalism. Thats what the false left/right paradign is all about.
Dems and Reps need to stop worrying about the other side and start exposing the globalist scum within their own parties or we might as well start stocking up can goods, water and ammo.

t22learner's photo
Sun 09/21/08 10:59 AM


Elect Barack Obama and sweep as many Republicans out of congress as possible. Can anyone on these boards contend the 8 years under George W. Bush have been in any substantive way better then 8 years under Bill Clinton?

This was already done.

Democrats hold the majority in all of Congress and control both houses.

how can it be that republicans are to blame?

as i have said, democrats are inept .

Democrats cannot see that they themselves are the problem.

proof is in how you describe the problem as being republicans in a democratically contraolled Congress doing nothing.

And the approval rating of democrats of democrats shows clearly that democrats don't like their leaders.

Always trasferring and projecting their self hatred on ghosts of their own imagination.

No other rebuttal is necessary.

This ppost I am responding to is the first best response of democrats.

The ones with a conscience cannot even post an apology or a remorseful repentence.

think

You simply can't make the case that this failed administration is in any way better than Clinton's, so you write a bunch of fragmented nonsense.

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 09/21/08 11:07 AM



Elect Barack Obama and sweep as many Republicans out of congress as possible. Can anyone on these boards contend the 8 years under George W. Bush have been in any substantive way better then 8 years under Bill Clinton?

This was already done.

Democrats hold the majority in all of Congress and control both houses.

how can it be that republicans are to blame?

as i have said, democrats are inept .

Democrats cannot see that they themselves are the problem.

proof is in how you describe the problem as being republicans in a democratically contraolled Congress doing nothing.

And the approval rating of democrats of democrats shows clearly that democrats don't like their leaders.

Always trasferring and projecting their self hatred on ghosts of their own imagination.

No other rebuttal is necessary.

This ppost I am responding to is the first best response of democrats.

The ones with a conscience cannot even post an apology or a remorseful repentence.

think

You simply can't make the case that this failed administration is in any way better than Clinton's, so you write a bunch of fragmented nonsense.


It matters not which party of scoundrels countrols the house and senate.

They both have their hands in OUR cookie jar.

Some more some less but ALL of them live better than do I.

Eat better than do I.

Drive better cars then do I.

Wear more expensive cloths then do I.

Yet when disaster strikes MY FELLOW AMERICANS in other parts of this great nation. It is MY money, food and prayers that flows to them to ease their suffering.

NOT my Congressmans. He or she is off attendending fund raisers to help his/her party get more control over MY GOVERNMENT.

wouldee's photo
Sun 09/21/08 11:13 AM



Elect Barack Obama and sweep as many Republicans out of congress as possible. Can anyone on these boards contend the 8 years under George W. Bush have been in any substantive way better then 8 years under Bill Clinton?

This was already done.

Democrats hold the majority in all of Congress and control both houses.

how can it be that republicans are to blame?

as i have said, democrats are inept .

Democrats cannot see that they themselves are the problem.

proof is in how you describe the problem as being republicans in a democratically contraolled Congress doing nothing.

And the approval rating of democrats of democrats shows clearly that democrats don't like their leaders.

Always trasferring and projecting their self hatred on ghosts of their own imagination.

No other rebuttal is necessary.

This ppost I am responding to is the first best response of democrats.

The ones with a conscience cannot even post an apology or a remorseful repentence.

think

You simply can't make the case that this failed administration is in any way better than Clinton's, so you write a bunch of fragmented nonsense.




gibberish.

this whole melt down was caused by Clinton.

The law to stopgap the potential nightmare to follow was signed into law by Clinton.

It is Clinton's legacy, not Bush's.

Bush is dealing with it.

The war in iraq and Afghanistan is just a necessary part of stopping mercenary terrorism and since the war on terror has started, we haven't had a repeat of the events of 9/11.

Like it or not, bush is dealing with things well.

I refuse to accept your deflections as remotely reasonable.

i will cite them as proof of the ongoing delusions of the looney left's socialist agenda which is incapable of getting approval of the American people.

proof again, that the democrats put all of their weight to bear to support the delusional incompetence of their world view in Nobama, a member of this present Congress with a "deer in the headlights" atrophy.


Last ditch efforts like his lead only to more of the same divisiveness in this country that enobles enemies of America to dare to attack it, even idf they attempt to do so from within.

Nope, you have established no credible explanation for Congress' incompetence, or that od democrats like Clinton.

The record shows the truth of it.

think


t22learner's photo
Sun 09/21/08 11:13 AM
Some ideas...

- 8 year terms limits in congress
- Legislation to prevent ex-public officials from lobbying current public officials.
- Publicly financed elections and no 527's
- Legislation to eliminate earmarks
- Presidential line item veto

AdventureBegins's photo
Sun 09/21/08 11:21 AM

Some ideas...

- 8 year terms limits in congress
- Legislation to prevent ex-public officials from lobbying current public officials.
- Publicly financed elections and no 527's
- Legislation to eliminate earmarks
- Presidential line item veto


Nice stuff here.

bit o' change though.

- 4 year term limits to congress... (8 years gives them the keys to the cookie jar)
- No lobbyists at all EVER.
- I like that no 527's.
- Open view access to every congressional members FINANCAL STATMENTS while they are in office. Make them transparent and it will be harder for them to steal from US.

warmachine's photo
Sun 09/21/08 11:25 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbSRJRxV_WU

Dr.Paul on Blitzer.

Paul would have destroyed Obama, too bad Paul wasn't getting this attention when he was running, oh thats right, the corporate media is scared just as sh!tless of Dr.Paul as the establishment is.

markecephus's photo
Sun 09/21/08 11:46 AM

I have removed a few posts from this thread, please be respectful of others.

Guys, everyone is entitled to their own opinions. Surely these topics can be discussed without resorting to name calling, personal attacks, and hijacking.

Thank you.
Mark

Thomas27's photo
Sun 09/21/08 11:57 AM

Some ideas...

- Presidential line item veto


I have always felt it was an issue when when unnecessary things were attach to bills that should never be on there. While the majority of the bill may be necessary, it's like we have to pay the price for getting what we, The People, need, so greedy politicians get "Their Share" as well.

I am for Presidential line item veto 100%

Thomas27's photo
Sun 09/21/08 12:03 PM

Some ideas...

- Legislation to eliminate earmarks


I found it strange that Obama got a 1 million dollar earmark for the employer of his wife, and all of a sudden her salary increased from 100 and something thousand to 300 and something thousand.

A more through investigation should be done when it comes to earmarks. Follow up research should be done also, to make sure the money is actually being used for the intend purpose not pay raises.

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