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Topic: Book Banning by Palin
Thomas27's photo
Sat 09/06/08 09:53 PM
I don't think any books were actually banned and I don't believe there was ever "a list" of books. At the request of the people, she checked into how to go about banning books from the library, but none were ever actually banned.

tngxl65's photo
Sat 09/06/08 09:54 PM
Lol, I did some research and that list is a compilation (don't know how current) of all books known to have been banned at some time in the U.S. Here's a link

http://www.lib.fit.edu/pubs/librarydisplays/bannedbooks/website.htm

It has nothing to do with Palin, unless she submitted this actual list, lol.

So, though I'm not a fan of Palin, I'd have to say that associating this list with her is crap.

Chazster's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:01 PM

Lol, I did some research and that list is a compilation (don't know how current) of all books known to have been banned at some time in the U.S. Here's a link

http://www.lib.fit.edu/pubs/librarydisplays/bannedbooks/website.htm

It has nothing to do with Palin, unless she submitted this actual list, lol.

So, though I'm not a fan of Palin, I'd have to say that associating this list with her is crap.

Yea that site is a joke. It is just some persons blog. They even posted this.

"note: there’s some buzz being generated that says that this post contains a comment that lists the books that Palin supposedly wanted banned. The list is here, but there appears to be no truth to the claim made by the commenter, and no further documentation or support for this has turned up"

She basically says she looked it up and found no proof to back that rumor.

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:02 PM
Edited by madisonman on Sat 09/06/08 10:02 PM


What can I say...

Just because she wanted to ban books?

Decency prevents me from saying what I'd really like to say.

Oh well...

I guess I shouldn't worry so much about Palin wanting to ban books when there are a whole lot of people walking around that clearly never read books.





Obviously someone doesn't read books and only believes insane propaganda from make believe web-siteshuh
I suppose the burden of proof proveing it is make believe rests on your shoulders. I would like to believe its not true but al the evidence says it is . If you have the proof please provide it. If not well then its just what you choose to "make believe"

Chazster's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:03 PM



What can I say...

Just because she wanted to ban books?

Decency prevents me from saying what I'd really like to say.

Oh well...

I guess I shouldn't worry so much about Palin wanting to ban books when there are a whole lot of people walking around that clearly never read books.





Obviously someone doesn't read books and only believes insane propaganda from make believe web-siteshuh
I suppose the burden of proof proveing it is make believe rests on your shoulders. I would like to believe its not true so if you have the proof please provide it. If not well then its just what you choose to "make believe"


What are you talking about, there is no proof that she did it.

catwoman96's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:03 PM
it begins with this thing called common sense..

wait, hold up..who wrote that great book????

TJN's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:04 PM




What can I say...

Just because she wanted to ban books?

Decency prevents me from saying what I'd really like to say.

Oh well...

I guess I shouldn't worry so much about Palin wanting to ban books when there are a whole lot of people walking around that clearly never read books.





Obviously someone doesn't read books and only believes insane propaganda from make believe web-siteshuh
I suppose the burden of proof proveing it is make believe rests on your shoulders. I would like to believe its not true so if you have the proof please provide it. If not well then its just what you choose to "make believe"


What are you talking about, there is no proof that she did it.
chaz meet madman

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:06 PM

that is insane!
:smile: I agree.:smile: Many of those books are classics:smile: Its wrong to try to bann any book much less a work of art like some of these books:smile:

Chazster's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:06 PM





What can I say...

Just because she wanted to ban books?

Decency prevents me from saying what I'd really like to say.

Oh well...

I guess I shouldn't worry so much about Palin wanting to ban books when there are a whole lot of people walking around that clearly never read books.





Obviously someone doesn't read books and only believes insane propaganda from make believe web-siteshuh
I suppose the burden of proof proveing it is make believe rests on your shoulders. I would like to believe its not true so if you have the proof please provide it. If not well then its just what you choose to "make believe"


What are you talking about, there is no proof that she did it.
chaz meet madman


LOL, you can say we met a long time ago. waving

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:09 PM

And we shouldn't like her based on her wanting to ban books? PlEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!noway
:smile: Banning books is VERY VERY unethical behavior.flowerforyou People have died for the right to read and write books (worldwide).Its considered VERY WRONG to bann books sweetheart. Its almost tabboo.flowerforyou

tngxl65's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:11 PM

[I suppose the burden of proof proveing it is make believe rests on your shoulders. I would like to believe its not true but al the evidence says it is . If you have the proof please provide it. If not well then its just what you choose to "make believe"


Did you not read the thread? What evidence is there that she wanted this list of books banned? Some of those books didn't exist when she was mayor. And the site being quoted denies it as well. Geesh

Chazster's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:11 PM


And we shouldn't like her based on her wanting to ban books? PlEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!noway
:smile: Banning books is VERY VERY unethical behavior.flowerforyou People have died for the right to read and write books (worldwide).Its considered VERY WRONG to bann books sweetheart. Its almost tabboo.flowerforyou


OMG she never banned books lol.

tngxl65's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:13 PM

it begins with this thing called common sense..

wait, hold up..who wrote that great book????


Palin? Can you prove she didn't?!?!?

:wink: :wink: laugh laugh

Thomas Paine

MirrorMirror's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:14 PM



And we shouldn't like her based on her wanting to ban books? PlEEEEEEEEEEEEZE!!noway
:smile: Banning books is VERY VERY unethical behavior.flowerforyou People have died for the right to read and write books (worldwide).Its considered VERY WRONG to bann books sweetheart. Its almost tabboo.flowerforyou


OMG she never banned books lol.
bigsmile ok gotcha Chaz.:banana: But it is a little disturbing to hear that she asked about banning books "as a test". what Why would someone do that?what Its just strange.shocked

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:15 PM



well. I, for one, just dont believe that at all. maybe she tried to ban some things, but come on..mark twain??
noway noway noway noway






Yeah, I gotta question the list. All the reports I have seen indicate there was no "list", and there's no indication that any books were ever actually banned. But I'm still more than a little bothered that she would even make the inquiry.
if that was the truth thats all you would hear in the media and she would have resigned slaphead
http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:15 PM




well. I, for one, just dont believe that at all. maybe she tried to ban some things, but come on..mark twain??
noway noway noway noway






Yeah, I gotta question the list. All the reports I have seen indicate there was no "list", and there's no indication that any books were ever actually banned. But I'm still more than a little bothered that she would even make the inquiry.
if that was the truth thats all you would hear in the media and she would have resigned slaphead
Palin pressured Wasilla librarian
TOWN MAYOR: She wanted to know if books would be pulled.

By RINDI WHITE
rwhite@adn.com

Published: September 4th, 2008 01:49 AM
Last Modified: September 4th, 2008 06:36 PM

WASILLA -- Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so.

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According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired. The censorship issue was not mentioned as a reason for the firing. The letter just said the new mayor felt Emmons didn't fully support her and had to go.

Emmons had been city librarian for seven years and was well liked. After a wave of public support for her, Palin relented and let Emmons keep her job.

It all happened 12 years ago and the controversy long ago disappeared into musty files. Until this week. Under intense national scrutiny, the issue has returned to dog her. It has been mentioned in news stories in Time Magazine and The New York Times and is spreading like a virus through the blogosphere.

The stories are all suggestive, but facts are hard to come by. Did Palin actually ban books at the Wasilla Public Library?

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

catwoman96's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:18 PM


it begins with this thing called common sense..

wait, hold up..who wrote that great book????


Palin? Can you prove she didn't?!?!?

:wink: :wink: laugh laugh

Thomas Paine




can u prove she did??


easy lets go to this library..and CHECK IT OUT.
i mean come on..its jsut silly rumors and/or somebody trying to make her look bad in front of the public.

which library was it?
in alsaka?
durn this is the web..must be somebody close to this library or whatever!!

heck I do know i checked catch22 outta my library awhile ago..so it didnt get banned in my town

common sense says she banned no books.
i got the ORIGINAL copy...im betting it on this!!
biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin

Chazster's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:19 PM
http://news.bostonherald.com/news/2008/view.bg?&articleid=1117009&format=&page=2&listingType=2008pres#articleFull

Madman, why not read the actual article instead of an article about the article. She even mentions it was just a rhetorical question. Some voters were concerned with books so she has just asking in general what her thoughts were.

madisonman's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:20 PM
WASILLA -- Back in 1996, when she first became mayor, Sarah Palin asked the city librarian if she would be all right with censoring library books should she be asked to do so.





According to news coverage at the time, the librarian said she would definitely not be all right with it. A few months later, the librarian, Mary Ellen Emmons, got a letter from Palin telling her she was going to be fired. The censorship issue was not mentioned as a reason for the firing. The letter just said the new mayor felt Emmons didn't fully support her and had to go.

Emmons had been city librarian for seven years and was well liked. After a wave of public support for her, Palin relented and let Emmons keep her job.

It all happened 12 years ago and the controversy long ago disappeared into musty files. Until this week. Under intense national scrutiny, the issue has returned to dog her. It has been mentioned in news stories in Time Magazine and The New York Times and is spreading like a virus through the blogosphere.

The stories are all suggestive, but facts are hard to come by. Did Palin actually ban books at the Wasilla Public Library?

CONFRONTATION WITH PALIN

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In December 1996, Emmons told her hometown newspaper, the Frontiersman, that Palin three times asked her -- starting before she was sworn in -- about possibly removing objectionable books from the library if the need arose.

Emmons told the Frontiersman she flatly refused to consider any kind of censorship. Emmons, now Mary Ellen Baker, is on vacation from her current job in Fairbanks and did not return e-mail or telephone messages left for her Wednesday.

When the matter came up for the second time in October 1996, during a City Council meeting, Anne Kilkenny, a Wasilla housewife who often attends council meetings, was there.

Like many Alaskans, Kilkenny calls the governor by her first name.

"Sarah said to Mary Ellen, 'What would your response be if I asked you to remove some books from the collection?" Kilkenny said.

"I was shocked. Mary Ellen sat up straight and said something along the line of, 'The books in the Wasilla Library collection were selected on the basis of national selection criteria for libraries of this size, and I would absolutely resist all efforts to ban books.'"

Palin didn't mention specific books at that meeting, Kilkenny said.

Palin herself, questioned at the time, called her inquiries rhetorical and simply part of a policy discussion with a department head "about understanding and following administration agendas," according to the Frontiersman article.

TEST OF LOYALTY

Were any books censored banned? June Pinell-Stephens, chairwoman of the Alaska Library Association's Intellectual Freedom Committee since 1984, checked her files Wednesday and came up empty-handed.

Pinell-Stephens also had no record of any phone conversations with Emmons about the issue back then. Emmons was president of the Alaska Library Association at the time.Books may not have been pulled from library shelves, but there were other repercussions for Emmons.

Four days before the exchange at the City Council, Emmons got a letter from Palin asking for her resignation. Similar letters went to police chief Irl Stambaugh, public works director Jack Felton and finance director Duane Dvorak. John Cooper, a fifth director, resigned after Palin eliminated his job overseeing the city museum.

Palin told the Daily News back then the letters were just a test of loyalty as she took on the mayor's job, which she'd won from three-term mayor John Stein in a hard-fought election. Stein had hired many of the department heads. Both Emmons and Stambaugh had publicly supported him against Palin.

Emmons survived the loyalty test and a second one a few months later. She resigned in August 1999, two months before Palin was voted in for a second mayoral term.

Palin might have become a household name in the last week, but Kilkenny, who is not a Palin fan, is on her own small path to Internet fame. She sent out an e-mail earlier this week to friends and family answering, from her perspective, the question Outsiders are asking any Alaskan they know: "Who is this Sarah Palin?"

Kilkenny's e-mail got bounced through cyberspace and ended up on news blogs. Now the small-town mom and housewife is scheduling interviews with national news media and got her name on the front page of The New York Times, even if it was misspelled.



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Find Daily News reporter Rindi White online at www.adn.com/contact/rwhite or call 352-6709.

http://www.adn.com/sarah-palin/story/515512.html

Chazster's photo
Sat 09/06/08 10:21 PM



it begins with this thing called common sense..

wait, hold up..who wrote that great book????


Palin? Can you prove she didn't?!?!?

:wink: :wink: laugh laugh

Thomas Paine




can u prove she did??


easy lets go to this library..and CHECK IT OUT.
i mean come on..its jsut silly rumors and/or somebody trying to make her look bad in front of the public.

which library was it?
in alsaka?
durn this is the web..must be somebody close to this library or whatever!!

heck I do know i checked catch22 outta my library awhile ago..so it didnt get banned in my town

common sense says she banned no books.
i got the ORIGINAL copy...im betting it on this!!
biggrin biggrin biggrin biggrin


If she did ban them, there would be no rumors. The facts would be out there. The liberal media (not to say all media is liberal) would have dug into this and found something out by now.

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