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Topic: Playing the victim...
hinkypoepoe's photo
Sat 08/23/08 03:08 PM



There is a ton of opportunity in this country …laziness and cop outs just are not going to fly anymore. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY say it with me now..P-E-R-S-O-N-A-L R-E-S-P-O-N-S-I-B-I-L-I-T-Y.


God bless you. I am glad to hear you made it out. I grew up in Detroit By the way.
I don't want to argue with you; I agree with the concept of personal responsibility. However, I have seen some children that my child befriended, for example. Their parents had them at 16; the father is a drug dealer, the mother is scared, abused, uneducated.

These kids really don't have a chance in hell of making it in society. They never grew up because they were not raised.

Is that their fault? We tried to show them a better way but they could not see it. They are both hustling and dealing to get by, since they dropped out of high school.

They didn't have a strong parent behind them to support them and teach them how to live.

And they are not "minorities", at least in the sense that I think you mean it. They are caucasian.

We are not arguing. I have a point of view and you have a point of view. The mother failed those children before they were born. So did the father. It all comes down to what I said before- inferior values.

Race issues in America these days are not about color. They are about culture. Some cultures over all values are inferior because they produce inferior results is what I am saying. A person can change their values when ever they want to. A community can decide to change as a whole in fact. It starts with a person then a group and then the whole. Personal Responsibility. As far as the children you mentioned they need to be taken from their environment and put into a positive setting. Just my Two cents.


I agree with you about the children.

But who is going to do it? I have let them into my home before and they not only robbed me blind, their ghetto friends showed up on my doorstep.

It's a serious problem and self-perpetuating. There are a few, like you and myself, who can see beyond their circumstances and do whatever it takes to rise above. But most can't; and so the cycle of poverty and misery continues. I guess this is what you are talking about - the ghetoo mentality. It has nothing whatsoever to do with race or skin color. It is a way of life; I know because I come from a family immersed in the ghetto way of thinking. I was the youngest of 8 and the first to graduate high school. The others didn't bother; dropped out and took low-level jobs; and now my sisters think I am "lucky" because I have a good job.

They really don't see that they bring it on themselves.




They are to old now to listen to reason and to far gone. Time for tough love. County Jail it will be for them. They are going to blame the world for their problems when it was mom and dad the whole time. I mean we are talking about human beings here not some dumb animals. They can still change if they want to. If not it's county jail and then off to Jackson state penitentiary eventually. I think they should bring back chain gangs. If they work the hell out of you in prison I don’t think a lot of people would go back to it.

Jess642's photo
Sat 08/23/08 03:11 PM

Why is it so many people do what they want to whomever they want, then when they get a big dose of realtiy in their face, they whine and cry like a victim?

"I know I poked that dog for a year now every time I went by the house, but he should never have bitten me, he should be put down now." WTF is that?




Lily, ever read The Celestine Prophecy?


People play roles for another's attentions, focus/energies...whatever you wish to call it...

It is a learned behaviour... and can become a societal expected behaviour...


Corrupted thinking... and a subversive form of oppressive behaviour.

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Sat 08/23/08 03:12 PM
They are to old now to listen to reason and to far gone. Time for tough love. County Jail it will be for them. They are going to blame the world for their problems when it was mom and dad the whole time. I mean we are talking about human beings here not some dumb animals. They can still change if they want to. If not it's county jail and then off to Jackson state penitentiary eventually. I think they should bring back chain gangs. If they work the hell out of you in prison I don’t think a lot of people would go back to it.


It's just sad, is all. Sometimes I will see a drugged-out teen with a baby and I think, that poor child hasn't got a chance. Somehow the idea of a chain gang doesn't cheer me up.

hinkypoepoe's photo
Sat 08/23/08 03:26 PM

They are to old now to listen to reason and to far gone. Time for tough love. County Jail it will be for them. They are going to blame the world for their problems when it was mom and dad the whole time. I mean we are talking about human beings here not some dumb animals. They can still change if they want to. If not it's county jail and then off to Jackson state penitentiary eventually. I think they should bring back chain gangs. If they work the hell out of you in prison I don’t think a lot of people would go back to it.


It's just sad, is all. Sometimes I will see a drugged-out teen with a baby and I think, that poor child hasn't got a chance. Somehow the idea of a chain gang doesn't cheer me up.


Well your not going to prison so don’t let the chain gang thing depress you. Also I think some people should be offered free sterilization so they can not have any more children.
Remember back in the day when communities would police each others children. I know some communities need an atomic bomb dropped on them but most can change. I believe

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Sat 08/23/08 03:29 PM


They are to old now to listen to reason and to far gone. Time for tough love. County Jail it will be for them. They are going to blame the world for their problems when it was mom and dad the whole time. I mean we are talking about human beings here not some dumb animals. They can still change if they want to. If not it's county jail and then off to Jackson state penitentiary eventually. I think they should bring back chain gangs. If they work the hell out of you in prison I don’t think a lot of people would go back to it.


It's just sad, is all. Sometimes I will see a drugged-out teen with a baby and I think, that poor child hasn't got a chance. Somehow the idea of a chain gang doesn't cheer me up.


Well your not going to prison so don’t let the chain gang thing depress you. Also I think some people should be offered free sterilization so they can not have any more children.
Remember back in the day when communities would police each others children. I know some communities need an atomic bomb dropped on them but most can change. I believe
I hope you are right. Trust me - those people are not enjoying their lives. They just don't know a way out; and worse, they don't believe it can happen for them so they won't try.

I was brought up constantly being told that some people are just meant to be poor and there is nothing you can do about it so don't bother to graduate or aspire to anything greater than what you know.


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Sat 08/23/08 03:30 PM
And some people just like to stir the pot. Pit people against each other behind the scenes, then want someone to ride to thier rescue. And prove that they are thier friends by defending them in public. And there fore drawing attention to themselves....

mixie629's photo
Sat 08/23/08 03:35 PM

And some people just like to stir the pot. Pit people against each other behind the scenes, then want someone to ride to thier rescue. And prove that they are thier friends by defending them in public. And there fore drawing attention to themselves....
hmmm..sounds like a serious syndrome.

Professional victims, maybe?

hinkypoepoe's photo
Sat 08/23/08 03:44 PM



They are to old now to listen to reason and to far gone. Time for tough love. County Jail it will be for them. They are going to blame the world for their problems when it was mom and dad the whole time. I mean we are talking about human beings here not some dumb animals. They can still change if they want to. If not it's county jail and then off to Jackson state penitentiary eventually. I think they should bring back chain gangs. If they work the hell out of you in prison I don’t think a lot of people would go back to it.


It's just sad, is all. Sometimes I will see a drugged-out teen with a baby and I think, that poor child hasn't got a chance. Somehow the idea of a chain gang doesn't cheer me up.


Well your not going to prison so don’t let the chain gang thing depress you. Also I think some people should be offered free sterilization so they can not have any more children.
Remember back in the day when communities would police each others children. I know some communities need an atomic bomb dropped on them but most can change. I believe
I hope you are right. Trust me - those people are not enjoying their lives. They just don't know a way out; and worse, they don't believe it can happen for them so they won't try.

I was brought up constantly being told that some people are just meant to be poor and there is nothing you can do about it so don't bother to graduate or aspire to anything greater than what you know.




That's F#$king awful!!! Who ever said that to you should be kicked repeatedly in their sexual organs or hung by hooks from their Mammary glands. I hate rotten people. I hate people who steal other peoples dreams. I hate people who step on other people because they are lazy miserable narrow minded retards. Good for you getting out of that s#$t hole environment. Your stubborn like me… that’s good!!!

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Sat 08/23/08 03:51 PM




They are to old now to listen to reason and to far gone. Time for tough love. County Jail it will be for them. They are going to blame the world for their problems when it was mom and dad the whole time. I mean we are talking about human beings here not some dumb animals. They can still change if they want to. If not it's county jail and then off to Jackson state penitentiary eventually. I think they should bring back chain gangs. If they work the hell out of you in prison I don’t think a lot of people would go back to it.


It's just sad, is all. Sometimes I will see a drugged-out teen with a baby and I think, that poor child hasn't got a chance. Somehow the idea of a chain gang doesn't cheer me up.


Well your not going to prison so don’t let the chain gang thing depress you. Also I think some people should be offered free sterilization so they can not have any more children.
Remember back in the day when communities would police each others children. I know some communities need an atomic bomb dropped on them but most can change. I believe
I hope you are right. Trust me - those people are not enjoying their lives. They just don't know a way out; and worse, they don't believe it can happen for them so they won't try.

I was brought up constantly being told that some people are just meant to be poor and there is nothing you can do about it so don't bother to graduate or aspire to anything greater than what you know.




That's F#$king awful!!! Who ever said that to you should be kicked repeatedly in their sexual organs or hung by hooks from their Mammary glands. I hate rotten people. I hate people who steal other peoples dreams. I hate people who step on other people because they are lazy miserable narrow minded retards. Good for you getting out of that s#$t hole environment. Your stubborn like me… that’s good!!!

Yes, but I don't hate people for not knowing better. My mom thought she was telling me the truth. She was trying to protect me from disappointment.

She was tragically wrong, but she was not a bad person. Just ignorant.

hinkypoepoe's photo
Sat 08/23/08 04:00 PM
Edited by hinkypoepoe on Sat 08/23/08 04:08 PM

And some people just like to stir the pot. Pit people against each other behind the scenes, then want someone to ride to thier rescue. And prove that they are thier friends by defending them in public. And there fore drawing attention to themselves....


Jessie “ Hey, I knew Martin luther King”Jackson and Al "Giant fat A$$" Sharpton..Maybee umm maybee. They call'em Race Baiters. That’s how they make all their Money by white against black propaganda. They are common street hustlers who make their money off of the poor and by threatening corperations with boycotts.

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Sat 08/23/08 04:02 PM

noway people are stupid... I'm slowly losing my faith in humanitygrumble
drinker I FEEL THAT!!!!:wink: :heart: :cry:

Duffy's photo
Thu 08/28/08 03:49 PM
who is run dmc? is he a snoop dog guy?
so send me some money and i will write lyrics. hahahaha:tongue:

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Thu 08/28/08 04:00 PM

who is run dmc? is he a snoop dog guy?
so send me some money and i will write lyrics. hahahaha:tongue:

I already have the tee shirt Duffy baby....

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