You’re correct, but isn’t that what we do, here, in America with our welfare system? Yet in this very thread there are those who believe we need to do even more. Like what? Take the children away, out of the environments we think will harm them? And what of the adults that continue to have children, do we just keep taking them away? Where do we send them, who will pay for them, and those who have special needs thanks to the affects of the mothers tender loving pre-natal care, who takes them, cares for them, and pays all the tab for a life time?

Then, in some part of the world are people whose land is in severe draught and they starve, are disease infested and are dying, but as long as they aren’t in “our reality” they can just die.

There are people in power who create the horrors and the conflict of hunger and disease on others, but they are more powerful and so what can we do, our hands are tied, by the very same powerful people. Nothing to do but download some new itunes at .99 cents a pop, or maybe go shopping and add a few new t-shirts to the dozen or so we already have. Of course we could make ourselves feel better by taking some old clothes to Good Will, but make sure you get a receipt as those old t-shirts can become quite a nice tax deduction. Don’t forget to fill up the car with $4.00 a gallon gas, after all, going to the mall, stopping at the Taco Bell, picking up new ink cartridges for your color printer, stopping by the pet store for pet food, oh and those little treats, and mailing that $3.00 hallmark card to your friend, well, that all just about emptied the gas tank. How nice it is to live in OUR reality. How fortunate we have been born into such a reality, it gives us leave to dismiss that which we don’t feel powerful enough to change.

Tribo


Not that easy Tribo. Your “We the People” are not intelligent enough, as a whole, to be a singular voice of sanity, logic, reason and ethicality. No matter who ends up in the positions of making this country’s decisions, that will not change the truth about “We the People”. Often what we see as being corrupt about the government is our own misunderstandings of how the government actually works. That’s not to say, there is not corruption, mind you. Also, just because “big business” has a lot of money doesn’t make them all corrupt. You say “nothing will change as long as…” but Tribo change is all we can depend on to be static. That’s a good thing, because as long as SOME ONE is trying to make a change, there is still hope that the next change will be for the better.



We have not lost freedoms, we have given them away by asking for more government oversight, agreeing with courses of actions based solely on the apathy that party line thinking promotes and by our own lack of concern over issues we think don’t have any affect on us. But again, we’re not standing still. If you think we are, than you are not involved in any of the hundreds of grassroots activities that are going on every single day. If you want change you can BET someone else wants that same change. If you care to look around, I WILL BET you can find a group that is already doing something about what YOU want.

That’s the biggest problem in our government, that “We the People” forgot that government is a participation sport, not a spectator or armchair director sport.

As individuals, we have a great amount of power, to look around and find like-minded people and then make a difference.




Tribo, your comments could likely incite many to anger, to disapprove of our government and all the people in it, but not one of them could explain the actual workings of it all. You speak as if revolution is the answer. I think such a thing is possible, at some future date, if Americans DON’T change.

But what I see, are millions of people, driven by well meaning PAC’s, coalitions, and many other organizations, fighting for change from within the system, in accordance with what Jefferson, Washington, Adams, Franklin, Madison, Hamilton and all the rest had begun. It was the Constitution that meant the most, the governance was filled in as positions were taken and as change was required through time. Change has led us here, only change can lead us in another direction and the least violent manner in which that can be accomplished is my choice, you?

Get involved with issues you are passionate about, believe me, there are others in your area already doing something. The Power, resides with the individual – YOU.

Jess


I agree – however, as you can see we are separate, and what separates us is a belief that we are too small, as individuals, to have any power at all. But I believe one person can save another, or a town, city, country or even the world. But it just might be that, that one person will not be the only name on the list of those who helped to make that change. So you are right again, Lee.

None of this was where I intended to take this thread, it seemed to develop all on its own. But I have to tell you all, I’m so glad you kept with it, because you’ve taught me a lot about myself, and have even helped me to change some ideas I had, I think for the better, actually.

I will be bugging out till the next school break. I wanted to let you all know that, I’m not abandoning this “mingle2 party”. I’ll be checkin in from time to time.

Sure have enjoyed all of you ! Redy

Sorry REDY, band-aids and surgery is all i see in your statements - it will get us nowhere. I firmly believe, as jb does, that there are powers even bigger and worse than ours controlling what goes on behind the scenes of all nations - as long as they exist without being taken down, all we can have is what can be done from a smaller much less sucessful perspective. i know your hearts in the right place but i disagree with your assessments so far.

An individual cannot control the thoughts, beliefs or reality of another individual. (See my thread on a better way to pray)



Well then there you have it. If I can't even convince or teach you, an intelligent person, about the Law of Attraction and how it works, then how would you expect me to teach this to people who are trying to survive?

To understand this principle, you cannot just read a few posts by me. Try reading the book called "The Law of Attracton" or "Ask and it is given" if you want to really know about it.

But I suspect you have a different agenda.




Good luck with that Red. In addition to the shared reality of all people, we each have our own personal reality.



Yes, we are busy with our own reality. We created it. We can't be everywhere at once. We can only be where we are.

JB