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Think you ladies are the exception, not the rule.
To many single parent families, where the parent's life comes before the kids. People are so hooked on how TV says life is, they don't know reality. Don't want to make the sacrifices it takes to raise children properly. Just don't take the time needed. EDUCATION starts in the home, school can NOT do it all. |
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Yes I know what you mean. People seam suprised when I do a simple maner as wait and hold the door at the market or post office. Some folks say Thankyou! others just look at me as if I am nuts and still others as if the door were automatic and I was there personal door holder! But I still say Your welcome!
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In my opinion, manners went away when kids started raising having babies. Really how well can a 15 year old teach their son how to be a man? But that came about because parents quit being parents?? My sons (22 and 16) behave well and have great manners. But then I managed to raise them rather than letting the tv do it. And I had kids young, I still have manners. And my mother was 17 when she had me (in the 60s, like BEFORE it was common place) but she managed to raise us with manners... When my sons bring me to meet a girlfriends parents, they ALWAYS mention how well mannered my boys are. I wonder how they missed the idea along they way themselves... But then I was fortunately blessed with boys! heh heh Teen girls are much more of a handfull! LOL Actually I see it all the time. Just stick the kid in front of a tv somewhere, or give them video games, and forget that true understanding of social manners comes form... social activities. But with both parents having to work, it is the way things have been going. |
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Edited by
Jill298
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Tue 08/19/08 06:56 AM
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I know someone that constantly sends her son to "go play". As long as he isn't bothering her, it's fine. As soon as he does something to get her attention, she snaps at him. Now how is that teaching him how to respect women? OMG they drive me nuts
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Yes I know what you mean. People seam suprised when I do a simple maner as wait and hold the door at the market or post office. Some folks say Thankyou! others just look at me as if I am nuts and still others as if the door were automatic and I was there personal door holder! But I still say Your welcome! It is a shame, but reality... Thanks, for all the idiots who don;t have the manners to say so! |
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I know someone that constantly sends her son to "go play". As long as he isn't bothering her, it's fine. As soon as he does something to get her attention, she snaps at him. Now how is that teaching him how to respect women? OMG they drive me nuts
Respect anything??? I see that too. Sad, isn't it. |
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I know someone that constantly sends her son to "go play". As long as he isn't bothering her, it's fine. As soon as he does something to get her attention, she snaps at him. Now how is that teaching him how to respect women? OMG they drive me nuts
Respect anything??? I see that too. Sad, isn't it. 
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I know someone that constantly sends her son to "go play". As long as he isn't bothering her, it's fine. As soon as he does something to get her attention, she snaps at him. Now how is that teaching him how to respect women? OMG they drive me nuts
Respect anything??? I see that too. Sad, isn't it.
Ain't it the truth 
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I eatedz teh mannerz.
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<--following hubby around
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One of the reasons that parents don't discipline their children ( as Jill mentioned ) is that a lot of the things that used to be commonplace as far as actual discipline, are now considered abuse.
These days, you can't do much more than give them a " time out ", which doesn't actually DO anything to teach them a lesson, without being accused of abusing your child. Children know that, now, there are no real consequences for their actions, so a lot of things that parents try to instill in them are simply dismissed. I'm not saying that applies to ALL parent's/children, but there is a large population of the recent generation that have no idea what parental discipline is, much less SELF discipline. |
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I can't agree more that it has all changed! I sometimes expect that kind of treatment from some younger guys but to see it happen with older gentlemen is insane! Yes, we all try to raise our children to be respectful and decent but when u see what else is out there? It can be shocking. Holding a door for a woman isn't something that most men do anymore.....it should be something that comes naturally. Womans movement of the 70's and 80's is no reason for ALL men to change. What happened then? Shouldn't be what happens now. Just because of the "bra burners" woman of today need to be treated with disrespect?
I think not!  Bravo woman for speaking ur mind! I can't agree with u more....
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Edited by
littleredhen
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Tue 08/19/08 08:59 AM
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well said 
I teach all my children to have manners and show respect to others as they say.... All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Kindergarten Robert Fulghum * Share everything. * Play fair. * Don't hit people. * Put things back where you found them. * Clean up your own mess. * Don't take things that aren't yours. * Say you're sorry when you hurt somebody. * Wash your hands before you eat. * Flush. * Warm cookies and cold milk are good for you. * Live a balanced life--learn some and think some and draw and paint and sing and dance and play and work every day some. * Take a nap every afternoon. * When you go out into the world, watch out for traffic, hold hands, and stick together. * Be aware of wonder. Remember the little seed in the Styrofoam cup: The roots go down and the plant goes up and nobody really knows how or why, but we are all like that. * Goldfish and hamsters and white mice and even the little seed in the Styrofoam cup--they all die. So do we. * And then remember the ****-and-Jane books and the first word you learned--the biggest word of all--LOOK. Parents are passing their responsibilities to the state, & the state is willingly taking them, because rights & responsabilites are linked. |
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I can't agree more that it has all changed! I sometimes expect that kind of treatment from some younger guys but to see it happen with older gentlemen is insane! Yes, we all try to raise our children to be respectful and decent but when u see what else is out there? It can be shocking. Holding a door for a woman isn't something that most men do anymore.....it should be something that comes naturally. Womans movement of the 70's and 80's is no reason for ALL men to change. What happened then? Shouldn't be what happens now. Just because of the "bra burners" woman of today need to be treated with disrespect? I think not! Bravo woman for speaking ur mind! I can't agree with u more....
Sad thing is that I'm NOT the bra burner personality... I am one of the few divorced people that don;t even understand the whole "lets trash men" thing. I hold the door for others, like was said, it is a sign of respect! But I'll also say that there is alot of contention between women my age. The bra burners make it difficult for men to KNOW when to hold the door... but it really shouldn;t stop them I think. Just my thoughts... |
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Edited by
spidersnsuch
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Tue 08/19/08 09:08 AM
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There is also peer issue here... even when you do teach yours, you have to hold them accountable when their friends "jump off the bridge" as my parents would say...
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I can't be your superman,
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There is also peer issue here... even when you do teach yours, you have to hold them accountable when their friends "jump off the bridge" as my parents would say... Amen to that! I have a 10 year old that tends to be the follower instead of the leader. But this came about because of being bullied by 3 girls in school when we lived in New York when she was 6 and 7 years old. They would tell her if she didn't do what they said, they wouldn't be her friend. And I did fight with the teachers, the principle, and even went as far as going to the school board office. Their view on it? Kids will be kids. We ended up moving back here to Virginia where crap like that isn't tolerated. But unfortunately, she still sometimes thinks that if she does what all the other kids are doing, they will like her. It's been an uphill battle, but I am finally getting her to realize that if people don't like her for who she is, then she doesn't need to be friends with them anyway. But she's made some really good friends who have respect for each other, and accept you for who you are. |
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I blame it all on the media... they set the standard for the general population... and regardless of what we teach our children, everyone is being influenced by everyone and everything around them.
The best way to teach good manners is to be a GOOD EXAMPLE to others and never get rid of your own good manners. As long as one person has it, chivalry will never die. |
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Wow..... it sounds like you've had some do-sie dates, lady! I hope ventilating made you feel better.
I would say maybe screen people more before you go out with them. Ask more questions, present scenarios if you have to to find the sort of man you're looking for. Speaking of spitting, I hope you considered spitting in the drink you bought for the spitter! 
People teach others how to treat them, and it saddens me these so called men (sic misogynistic boys) you meet are so cavelier and uncouth. Walk away fast, but I'd say why. I duobt anyone has the nerve to tell them the truth. It gets better, every now and then. Mantra: good men exist, kind men exist, all the good ones aren't gay or taken..... say it with me now! |
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and SOME of us are in temporary LIMBO!!!
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