I truly believe some here are still CONFUSING EVOLUTION with ADAPTATION to one's Environment....two ENTIRELY different things.

Evolution believes a monkey can EVOLVE into a man.
That goes AGAINST the Word of God which says, everything REPRODUCES AFTER IT'S OWN KIND!!
AFTER IT'S OWN KIND!!
AFTER IT'S OWN KIND!!!


BUT...that doesn't
mean that man over time, in having to ADAPT to his changing environment ,MAY very well have had a different bone structure come about over time, as he ADAPTED to his environmental changes ...BUT AGAIN , as man adapted to his environment and living conditions, MAN was still MAN, who came from MAN, and not an APE!!!!

And no Evolutionsists can ever say otherwise, cause there is NOT once ounce of proof otherwise.
NADA!!

Man CAME FROM MAN...PERIOD..HE MAY NOT LIVE TO BE 900 YEARS OLD ANYMORE..BUT HE IS STILL MAN, AS GOD CREATED HIM TO BE, IN THE BEGINNING.

AND GOD DOES NOT CHANGE..AND NEITHER DOES WHAT HE SAYS IN HIS WORD.
GOD SAID IT, AND GOD DON'T LIE!!

Well I guess in that case, Neanderthal man did all of his evolving and "adapting" according to your premise, at the same time as Adam and Eve, which would only be about 6000 years ago. I will be generous and say 10000 years. Now if God ONLY created Homo Sapien (modern man) that means that all of these skeletal differences that are observed with the naked eye, just happened, poof. You would be safer with the 500,000 year old theory.

God created Man......and once more....man is able to ADAPT to his changing environment.....and perhaps the bone structural change were a result of his ADAPTING to these changes in his environment.....but the result show he is still man, and not coming from a monkey, for instance....he still is of his own kind...MAN..as he was from the beginning.

Look at the eskimos, for instance......and then look at the people who live near the equator.......both are MAN, but both also have also adapted to the environment in which they live.....but this is called adaptation , not evolution.

Evolution means evolving into a WHOLE DIFFERENT SPECIES from the OPRIGINAL....

Adaptation means adapting to one's environment, which may bring on some physiological changes as a result..... but remaining the SAME SPECIES !!

Some may also call Adaptation the same as " Evolving WITHIN one's OWN species"..but it DEFINITELY Is NOT the same as ,evolving into an ENTIRELY DEIIFFERENT species, which is what evolutionists are endlesly trying to prove...but always in vain.

Okay in that case, explain what Neanderthal is exactly if he was only created by god at the same time as Adam and Eve. Is he human? Is he homo sapien? Why does he have a physical body structure NOT identical to that of Homo Sapien? You yourself are asserting that ALL god ever actually made was Homo sapien around 6000 years ago correct? I dont want to put words in your mouth of course. Now could Neanderthal have bred with homo sapien? Perhaps. Their time lines overlapped. However the head and bone structure of Neanderthal was much more thick and stout which would make it extremely difficult for Homo sapien females to deliver these infants. They very often lost these babies in birth. So eventually Neanderthal could not survive.

So, what was he?

Please dont try and tell us that the fairytales in the bible are fact.

If you believe evolution is only theory, then, if you have a flexible mind and free will, the bible, qur'an & torah are only theoretical too.

Krimsa..I was taught about Neanderthal man too in school..but it was the EVOLUTIONARY THEORY that was taught to me in school........which was not fact...but that doesn't mean that neanderthal man did not exist, however.

What I shared earlier ,about man ADAPTING to his Environment, best explains the change......meaning, there could have been physiological changes that occurred in man, in trying to ADAPT to his changing environment.

But NEITHER neanderthal man nor homosapien man, EVOLVED FROM AN APE..as Evolutionists try to say.

But although there are physiological changes between the two, neanderthal and homosapien both come from THE SAME SPECIES.....ORIGINAL MAN....and therefore,are both one and the same......and come from the SAME species of ORIGINAL MAN THAT GOD CREATED.

I just found this article...will explain it better....



http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/neanderthal.html



and this also.....



http://www.angelfire.com/mi/dinosaurs/

MS, find one time I have ever stated that the THEORY of evolution , incidentally that is what the scientific community refers to it as, was anything other than a theory. The difference is it is a theory based on sound, and ever expanding research and development. Unlike biblical scripture, it IS indeed open to speculation, questioning, updates and CHANGE because it is an ONGOING theory.

Well to be fair to you of course, since ANYONE can interpret the bible in ANY format they deem fit, well then its sort of like a "projectable premise" Are you more comfortable with that term? I just came up with it.

MS, I am going to attempt to explain human evolution to you in a very brief and summed up format. I am only doing so because you can find similar summations written by me on several threads and because of the simple fact that you keep using the terminology "evolved from apes" which clearly shows a lack of understanding of the concept of anthropogenesis.

Paleoanthropology is the study of ancient humans based on fossil evidence, tools, and other signs of human habitation. Thats what these scientists focus on daily in their work and research. MS I am actually impressed with your ability to at least partially validate and accept the concept of Natural Selection introduced by Charles Darwin. Even many of Darwin's original supporters did not like the idea that human beings could have evolved their impressive mental capacities and moral sensibilities through natural selection. Hominini is the tribe of Homininae that comprises humans (Homo), chimpanzees (Pan), and their extinct ancestors. Members of the tribe are called hominins ( "hominids"). The subtribe Hominina is the "human" branch, including genus Homo and its close relatives, but not Pan.

The creation of this taxon is the result of the current idea that the least similar species of a trichotomy should be separated from the other two. Through DNA comparison, scientists believe the Pan/Homo divergence was completed between 5.4 to 6.3 million years ago, after an unusual process of speciation that ranged over four million years.So we branched OFF from Pan or the chimps about 6 million years ago. Basically we are but one "branch" on the primate evolutionary tree and the chimps are our closest relative but they went off on another branch and continued with their development as we went along on our own evolutionary course and became less reliant on living in or climbing trees and more upright. Do you understand? We DIVERGED from the Pan or chimpanzee.

Anyway, I was still wondering how you would classify Neanderthal man exactly? I think Eljay was going to attempt an answer. You seem to feel that he is Homo Sapien in genus and was created by god probably at least close to the same time as Adam and Eve correct? So why is he so different in his appearance? I can start bringing out the photos if it helps. MS seems to feel that he merely adapted. She is a big fan of Darwin. A VERY big fan. Man that was some fast adaptation!

MorningSong wrote:

Read the articles I shared..it will help answer your questions, Krimsa.

Btw...I am a fan of the Word of God only, not Darwinisn .
I noticed you like to put "words in people's mouths", that they never said, or even indicated.
Hence, this will be my last reply, because of this.
I will not play these kind of games, when attemptinmg to help someone.

Have a Good day, Krimsa.

Well it seems your premise was that Neanderthal man is different in his skeletal structure simply due to his ability to adapt? That was what you said several times last night in your posts. Feel free to correct me if Im wrong.

"God created Man......and once more....man is able to ADAPT to his changing environment." MorningSong

Im simply reposting the question from yesterday. Its an interesting one for certain.

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ooops ... wrong thread!

Is anyone going to attempt to answer this question or no? It kind of came about by accident because a Christian made a joke to the effect that Neanderthal was ONLY about 6000 years old and created at the same time as Adam and Eve.

Okay, if this is the case. I have some questions about him and what he is exactly.

Is he Homo Sapien?

Why would god have created this other Humanoid type man but not quite the same as Adam and Eve? He's close and very advanced but not quite on par yet.

Why would god make a people and label them for extinction presumably?

Why is his body so very different from Homo Sapien?

Was he able to breed with Homo Sapien?

Why have we discovered his skeletal remains but not those of Adam and Eve?

question? how many of these neandertal bones/ skulls have been discovered and where? was there skin, hair and flesh on any? do they all look the same? if not what differences are there?

I'm looking that up now. One sec.

So far I am able to locate both. They have the actual bones and then they have models of fossilized reconstructions very similar to dinosaurs. No there is no skin on them Tribo. They are anywhere between 30,000-50,000 years old. If you want to see how it is suspected that they looked with hair and skin, just do an image search for Neanderthal. I can also send you images by email if you want. I have some good ones. I know Im a strange girl I collect these things. France and Iran on locations of discoveries thus far but Im still looking for that specifically. It looks like they have a younger one also. A child. There is also articulated skeletons and non.

"Found in the Zagros Mountains in northern Iraq; a total of nine skeletons found believed to have lived in the Middle Paleolithic. One of the nine remains had an amputated arm. This is significant because it shows that stone tools were present in that era. Also, another Neanderthal had been buried with flowers, showing that some type of burial ceremony may have occurred."