Oh but then their answer to that is evolution is all "fake" and that their fables only require that someone accept it as absolute truth or mold the words of the scripture until it conforms to their own belief structure. They seem to feel that ALL evidence pointing towards anthropogenesis is somehow manipulated, untrustworthy or part of a vast conspiracy perpetrated by the scientific community.

"...parades speculation and incomplete data.." sounds a lot like having faith in something with absolutely no proof it exists... Sorry dude, but at least the scientists have proof that can actually be tested and touched.

Agreed.

you are delusional.

there are no facts supporting evolution, only conjecture and missing links and gaps and excuses and innuendo and caveats.

It is that simple.

No one is fooled that is paying attention.

God is not struggling with man.

Believers are not in a panic and certainly not convinced by any spin put on anything by the inept and undisciplined mind that parades speculation and conjecture as fact.

It is ridiculous to assume the parroted dogma of unreasonable and unidsciplined minds is taken seriously by Christians at all.



If it were not so sad that man's continual and accelerating corruptibility is greatly directly influenced by man's foolish distractions, then I doubt that the Christian pointing that out would bother at all.

But with great soundness of mind comes also a responsibility to teach and comfort the lost.

Incredibly, the lost are among the deceived and evolutions is an inanimate tinkering of decptive means that cannot stand in truth on any facts.

BUt every warning given that conjecture is parading as fact and that the whole pursuit is a meaningless distraction and waste of time trying to justify conjecture is really just another example of the ineptitude of corrupt man wearing corruption like a badge of honor earned and not as the stain and stench of death brought on prematurely and willfully.

Suicide is not painless.

"I cannot imagine a god who rewards and punishes the objects of his creation, whose purposes are modeled after our own -- a god, in short, who is but a reflection of human frailty."

- Albert Einstein, physicist, Nobel laureate (1879-1955)

tested and touched?

that is your defence of conjecture spouting itself as fact?

well, OK.

I don't need a scientist to touch or test me. I can do it myself.

great quote.

I will ponder the motive for posting it.

I will have to dig deep to find this as proof of evolution.

Here is how I see things:

You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of yours.

You feel insulted and "dehumanized" when scientists say that people evolved from other life forms, but you have no problem with the Biblical claim that we were created from dirt.

You laugh at polytheists, but you have no problem believing in a Triune God.

Your face turns purple when you hear of the "atrocities" attributed to Allah, but you don't even flinch when hearing about how God/Jehovah slaughtered all the babies of Egypt in "Exodus" and ordered the elimination of entire ethnic groups in "Joshua" including women, children, and trees!

You laugh at Hindu beliefs that deify humans, and Greek claims about gods sleeping with women, but you have no problem believing that the Holy Spirit impregnated Mary, who then gave birth to a man-god who got killed, came back to life and then ascended into the sky.

You are willing to spend your life looking for little loopholes in the scientifically established age of Earth (few billion years), but you find nothing wrong with believing dates recorded by Bronze Age tribesmen sitting in their tents and guessing that Earth is a few generations old.

You believe that the entire population of this planet with the exception of those who share your beliefs -- though excluding those in all rival sects - will spend Eternity in an infinite Hell of Suffering. And yet consider your religion the most "tolerant" and "loving."


While modern science, history, geology, biology, and physics have failed to convince you otherwise, some idiot rolling around on the floor speaking in "tongues" may be all the evidence you need to "prove" Christianity.

You define 0.01% as a "high success rate" when it comes to answered prayers. You consider that to be evidence that prayer works. And you think that the remaining 99.99% FAILURE was simply the will of God.

You actually know a lot less than many atheists and agnostics do about the Bible, Christianity, and church history - but still call yourself a Christian.

Let the brimstone begin!

The very idea that people who believe in a totally asburd story that has absolutely no proof at all are even concerned about proof is laughable.

If they are interested in proof then why aren't they interested in the fact that almost every ridiculous concept in the Bible can shown to be common in all the manmade myths of the Mediterranean region?

Clearly blood sacarifcies to the Gods are a common fantasy of manmade myths from all over the world. However, they weren't all attributed to the atonement of sins. Some where some weren't. This clearly proves that they could not all be from the same God since they were done for differnt reasons. So we know they are just made up superstitions of man.

Now to believe that the real creator of this universe would just coincidentally want blood sacrifices to appease disobedience just like all the other manmade fantasies is truly absurd.

So there we have proof at the very least that the biblical stories aren't even an original idea.

So if religious people are so concerned about proving things why do they close their eyes to the evidence that shows that the bibilcal stories of God are just another manmade myth?

An all-powerful God who's at war with a fallen angel?

That's falls flat on it's face without any need for proof at all.

An all-wise Fatherly Figure Godhead who tells people to judge their neigbors and stone them to death if they feel that they are sinners?

An unchanging God who later comes back in-person to tell people not to stone others nor to judge them?

What's to disprove?

It's totally self-contradicting. There's nothing there to disprove. It's already in total chaos and meaningless.

Big Jim,

you are confused.

sit down a minute and read and use your mind to listen to what is said, not to what you are having a conversation with in your own mind while you are reading this.

It is not about Christianity alone. It is about God. period.

which is precisely my point about evolutionists.

and by inference, about your inability to recognize anything for what it is on the surface.

parading specu;lation and conjecture as fact is ludicrous, ridiculous, inept and completely infantile.

Assuming that even a Christian thinks that way as well and that somehow evolutionists are justified in their own minds because they transfer that same deficit on to those that point out the flaws in incomplete analysis is precisely the problem inteeligent people everywhere have with the whole farce.





your comments prove my point.


You are deceived and only yo have allowed that to happen.

I cannot wear that for you or coddle you in that which you have brought onto your own pwerson.

I can point it out for you, but I cannot oipen your eyes and ears if you insist on keepoing them in the condition that you have delivered to them by your willful good pleasure and intent.

My nose is a Dr. Pepper fountain!





OMG! My sides are hurting!

Someone please help me up off the floor.





Here's the Christian "intellectual answer" to your statement Big Jim:

Christian: "Well, if we'd quit questioning God we wouldn't even know those kind of statistics!"

That's the kind of "logic" they use Big Jim.

Just look the other way! BLIND FAITH BABY! All the way to heaven!

Wouldee, what do you think about the actual tangible evidence of the validity of the theory of evolution. The actual human, skeletal remains excavated from the earth. The earth that you claim Yahweh created? I’m just curious and this question is not intended to make fun of your beliefs. I am simply curious how this is all explained away? What about dinosaurs as well?

This statement came from someone who demands that we put complete faith in ancient unreasonable self-contradicting absurdly unrealistic stories?

Common Wouldee, you're not even making sense.

The religion that you're trying to support demands complete unproven faith in utterly ludicrous, ridiculous, stories of a truly inept God! A supposedly Fatherly Images who has a planet filled with people are are clearly confused about who he is or what he wants from us, or even if he exists at all.

What kind of a Father would that be? A completely inept Father! The least his could do is make sure all his children know what's up. Sitting by and allowing them to guess and fight with each other over what he supposedly wants from them would be totally irresponsible on his part.

If he sees that they are 'confused' it's up to HIM to clear things up. That's what Fathers are supposed to do Wouldee, anything less, and he's be up on charges of child abuse via neglect of his parenting responsiblities.

That would be a completely inept Father Wouldee. The Biblical story is a story of a completely inept Fatherly Figure if it's true Wouldee because he would have allowed the vast majority of his children to be lost to other "religions" and beliefs.

He can supposedly intervent to clear things up but doesn't?

Then he must not care what people think Wouldee. If he cared and could do something about it you'd think he would. That fact that he doesn't suggest clearly that he doesn't care what people think. But that flies in the face of what the Bible claims, therefore the Bible can't be true because God clearly isn't the Fatherly Figure that it claims God should be.

How much proof do you need that it can't possibly be true?

The proof that the Bible can't be true is overwhelming.

meanwhile the pundits of conjecture parading as fact amiuse them selves with distractions and comic relief that speaks to the very nature of their own foolishness.

transference can be cleaned up.

It is a cross wiring in the mind that can be healed.

Don't need a doctor for it, just speak the truth every day in daily life and ignore the temptation to excuse the inaccessibility of the imagination to reality and reclaim reality.

That will cleanse to confusion about deceit and arrogance and no one needs help from another to accomplish that feat.

meanwhile, I can only expect that the sickness and disease found in the human mind will continue to grasp at imaginary explanations for the confusion of face and the incoherence of critical thinking skills pulverized by neglect of duty.

I see no proof of monkey blood.

I see no proof that a bird's wing as anything but a bird's wing.


And as an added bonus for your amusement.....

Until anything credible and soundly verified comes to the light of day disputing the claims made in the Holy Bible that this whole of our experience is spoken into existence by a Supreme Being, aided and abetted by nothing else, then I shall continue to offer it to others as the opportunity within it warrants.

A relationship with God reconciled from the delusional thinking of society inherited by virtue of birth.



It is that simple.

I know, you can't comprehend that. It is so......

.complicated and foreign to you.






hey haters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

hating on me yet???????????????????

Wouldee, please answer my question. Thank you.

As you can see Krimsa, he's having some kind of personal trauma.

He thinks that discussing about religion have something to do with hating him as a person, on a personal level.

Clearly, he's not debate material.

Sorry Wouldee. No one hate you, I'm sure.

It's not a personal thing for most of us. Most of us are looking at it from the standpoint of humanity in general.

If you need to believe in something on a personal level you should be outside picking daisies. Not trying to argue your personal faith on a religion forum.

It's not personal Wouldee. Honest.

Krimsa.

it is a fallacy.

A dead end assumption working backwards from the imaginary delusion that some errant thought that this must disprove God as the Creator and SAupreme Being. Period.

And to hasten it's very own conclusions by parading conjecture as fact and preaching it incessantly until it resembled more than it is .

The only ones that are fooled are the ones making the assumptions and parading them around deceitfully, on the one hand, and the lazy and inarticulate that take them at their word because they recognize the hidden agenda being stipulated.

Dinos are what they are.

The birds are what they are.

Man and other hominids are what they are, Krinmsa.

nothing more than the distinct creations they are.

Remove the filter that God didn't speak this into existence by God's own will and intent and power and you will see the evolutionist errors in their truest light.

Imperically, it is an indefensible conjecture with far too many missing pieces to pull it together.

It is completely inept, and often contradictory of the assumptions given to the controls awarded to the conjecture.

The whole thing is a miserable convolution of guesses spinning out of control working backwards from a premise.

The premise that cannot be disproved is that God created this as it is.

Period.

Lying and manipulating that which is paraded as evidence supporting evolution is all that is evident and supportinig the foolishness.

In the meantime, no harm, no foul.

It is just another idiotic distraction given place to altogether hopelessly confused and distracted minds that have yet another excuse to be lazy and ignorant and wanton and irresponsible with their own lives in light of the myriad ditractions and confusion everywhere assaulting their attention inexhaustibly and incessantly by virtue of just being here at all.

Assuming that a school teacher is teaching truth when fiction is being paraded around is a dangerous weapon purposing suicide upon a whiole generation in its youth.

Yur won distractions in life pale to the continual deconstruction of truth ever being viably adhered to by the next generaation.

blaah blah blah, i monotonously drone on.

It is nothing personal Wouldee. Its also not "monkey blood". It is DNA which stands for Deoxyribonucleic acid. It contains the genetic instructions for all living things. The main role of DNA molecules is the long-term storage of information. Chimpanzees are not monkeys but fall into the family known as the "great apes”. In one of the largest comparisons of human and chimpanzee genomic sequence to date, the researchers calculated that the shared sequences were 98.77 percent identical. I hate to be a stickler for the details but you know me...

Checking out rest of threads I missed





PREHISTORIC PERIOD

Neolithic Period 4300 BC
Chalcolithic Period 4300-3300 BC

BIBLICAL PERIOD[1]

Bronze Age 3300-1200 BC

Early Bronze Age I (EB I) 3330-3050 BC
Early Bronze Age II-III (EB II-III) 3050-2300 BC
Early Bronze Age IV/Middle Bronze Age I (EB IV/MB I) 2300-2000 BC
Middle Bronze Age IIA (MB IIA) 2000-1750 BC
Middle Bronze Age IIB (MB IIB) 1800-1550 BC
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Iron Age 1200-539 BC

Iron Age I (IA I) (Judges) 1200-1000 BC
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Iron Age IIB-C (IA IIB-C) (Divided Monarcy) 925-586 BC
Iron Age III (Neo-Babylonian Period) 586-539 BC

Persian Period 539-333 BC

CLASSICAL PERIOD

Hellenistic Period 333-165 BC
Maccabean/Hasmonean Period 165-63 BC
Roman Period 63 BC-330AD

Early Roman Period (Herodian Period) (New Testament Period) 63 BC-70AD
Middle Roman Period[2] (Yavne Period) 70-135AD
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Byzantine Period 330-638AD

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Arab Caliphate Period 638-1099AD

Umayyad Period 638-750AD
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Crusader Period 1099-1244AD

Kingdom of Jerusalem Period 1099-1187AD
Ayyubid Period 1187-1244AD
(Mamluk Period 1244-1291AD)

Mamluk Period 1244-1517AD
Ottoman Period 1517-1917AD

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British Mandate Period 1917-1948AD
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[edit] Neolithic

The Neolithic period appears to have begun when the peoples of the Natufian culture, which spread across present-day Syria, Palestine, Israel and Lebanon, began to practice agriculture. This Neolithic Revolution has been linked to the cold period known as the Younger Dryas. This agriculture in the Levant is the earliest known to have been practiced.