everyone coming into these threads is coming in here with their faculties intact and ready to run with their sum total.


no one is coming in here without having their head examined by their heart.

and whatever is in there, comes out here.

this is the world and it is called man.




so let's not play house and think for one minute that someone is going to get turned out in here.

everyone in here has an agenda.



truth.

feels good, doesn't it?

"turned out" is not exactly the terminology I would have chosen but sure, yeah, right.

TOO Funny!!

Wow, it just can't be that easy, can it? How did you, a Christian, ever come to grips with such a difficult concept?

I only ask because, it might help others to overcome thier inability to see beyond their fear.

I think they have a name for that belief specifically. It’s when they believe in god and Creationism and all of the basic components of the faith, yet at the same time they completely buy into evolution. What is the official title I'm looking for here? I want to say progressive Christianity or something along those lines.

Because I am also a man of science, well an engineer. I look at things rationally and chose to be flexible with what I believe true. If you read history you will see many mistakes the chruch has done over the years. Does that make the church bad? I say no, but you never know what was changed or lost. Plus the bible was rewritten so many times by hand. Who knows if they left stuff out or added stuff in or misread anything.

So Chaz how do you feel about the fundamentalists on thread and their claims that the Earth is only around 6000 years old tops?

I believe that science has all read proven the earth is much older than that.

I agree. I just don’t think that in as short a time span as they are suggesting, you could have compressed the dinosaurs, man, civilization, the dark ages and everything else together. They don’t seem to deny the existence of dinosaurs (anymore thank goodness) but now since they can’t really just disallow them, they are simply trying to assert that they existed probably around the same time of man. Like that movie from the 60s with Raquel Welch....One Million Years BC, except they don’t believe the Earth is that old.

indeed words of wisdom, that each has an agenda and each is hearing from god, as all mans thoughts come from god......

Not all of us share in your comprehension of god. Please keep that in mind. Some of us also take into account the validity of scientific research as it relates to the earth and human evolution.

each human being is as god to me, so how does one percieve that i think science is not truth, lol.......

if any believe in god, then to not believe each is a child of god show they believe not in the god of the text, lol.....

not one human being is disposable and not having wisdom....

Absolutely my point. NO person here is disposable and therefore, those who do not share your belief structure, or do not find Creationism a valid explanation for why we exist on Earth in the current form we do, deserve to express those views freely. I do not share your opinion of god. That is my choice.

awh......ok, is it thought that i think all are supposed to agree with me, lol......

each share an opinion, as you share many here, so what be the problem?

have i asked someone to not stop sharing freely?

it seems more you are asking me to stop sharing freely.....

no, that can't be, since you believe in sharing.....ok, thanks for settin me straight in whatever way you did.....ditto's

i think i now get it!!!!......all the crap you have heard from text, and know is NOT the TRUTH, you think i must believe also, if i put any stock in words from text, lol.....and if so, this would mean i think you are evil or lacking in sight or wisdom, of "godly" things, as this be a perception looked thru by many that speak of text, lol........

truely only a perception based on things heard in days past........

my heart you do not know, and what i think of you is none of these things, lol......

Well, I look on the bright side. We are now able to speak freely about these differences of opinion. No organizations abound with the presumed authority to throw us into dark dungeons, nor torture us as heretics if we do not acquiesce with the church's best interest in mind. These are good times.

Yes indeed. A mere 150 years ago we would have been tortured and burned at the stake.

As religions like to paint a picture of the world going to the devil, some sanity has been found in this world as a whole.

There is compassion and reason gaining a foot hold over superstition, and fear. Even Church going people are leaning towards more kindness than back then as most seem to agree that to burn a witch or kill a heretic is wrong.

Yes there are still wars, but I don't blame them on religion, I blame them on propaganda and lies and evil men who are greedy and want to own the whole world. They are the ones with no love, no compassion, no passion at all. They have no sense of right and wrong at all. They only care about themselves. They use fear to manipulate the masses setting men against men, nation against nation and they sit back and reap the spoils of war.

I pray that people open their eyes to these horrible ruthless greedy men and stop killing each other in the name of religion or terror or whatever reason they think they go to war.

Everyone really just wants peace and to live a good life with their family.

JB

indeed, many things you say are of great wisdom, and this be my perception........

Oh I don’t know about that. I’m a silly dilly. But that’s nice of you. I would say the same of you. It’s just a matter of perspective to some degree and the bible does have some interesting takes on events. I don’t think anyone would argue that.