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Topic: NeoCon
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Thu 07/03/08 06:13 PM
Also I dont think they are required to count those that can be fired by conventional artillery!
You'd have to count those to get an accurate count! I just dont think they are covered under any treaty!

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Thu 07/03/08 06:15 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 07/03/08 06:16 PM


Starsailor2851.

Are you in the military? Have you ever been to war? Are you Jewish? Do you live in America or Israel?

JB


Why are you asking if I'm Jewish? You know, you're really ramping up with a bigot or racist label for yourself now.


Just because I asked you if you were Jewish you are calling me a bigot or a racist now?

What is your problem?

And who do you think your are to label me? I don't accept labels from anyone.


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Thu 07/03/08 06:15 PM
Do you really think they are super worried about Iran having 1 or 2, or do you think that is just a fear tactic used against citizens?

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Thu 07/03/08 06:17 PM



Starsailor2851.

Are you in the military? Have you ever been to war? Are you Jewish? Do you live in America or Israel?

JB


Why are you asking if I'm Jewish? You know, you're really ramping up with a bigot or racist label for yourself now.


Just because I asked you if you were Jewish you are calling me a bigot or a racist now?

What is your problem?


My problem? You keep throwing around Zionism, propaganda, and other similar tacts that are used most often and are associated with bigots. And, now you go about asking if I'm a Jew, like that matters one bit in the discussion. It's offensive and ridiculous debate tactics.

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Thu 07/03/08 06:17 PM
When Hillary said she would bomb them off the face of the earth she really meant, WE CAN BOMB THEM OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!!

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Thu 07/03/08 06:20 PM

Do you really think they are super worried about Iran having 1 or 2, or do you think that is just a fear tactic used against citizens?


You tell me, with rockets still falling on your towns, some nutjob bulldozing multiple cars killing three yesterday, Hezbollah taking over Lebanon and sitting with weapons on your border, Iran saying you don't have much longer to exist, the nuclear discoveries that were hit in Syria, and the vamping up of nuclear developments in Iran, would you not be super worried?

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Thu 07/03/08 06:21 PM


Starsailor2851.

Are you in the military? Have you ever been to war? Are you Jewish? Do you live in America or Israel?

JB


Why are you asking if I'm Jewish? You know, you're really ramping up with a bigot or racist label for yourself now.


I also asked you if you were in the military.
I also asked you if you had ever been to war.
I also asked you if you live in America or Israel.

But you get all riled up because I asked you if you were Jewish?

If you support Zionism I am curious if you are Jewish. I know that there are some non-Jewish people who support Zionism and that there are some Jews who are anti-Zionism.

If you don't want to tell me where you are coming from I would ask you why.

You are saying that we should bomb people because we think they might be dangerous. That is a ridiculous war mongering idea. I just want to know who I am talking to.

JB

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Thu 07/03/08 06:21 PM

When Hillary said she would bomb them off the face of the earth she really meant, WE CAN BOMB THEM OFF THE FACE OF THE EARTH!!


Bomb who? Hezbollah? Where? Lebanon? Their bases in Africa or Iran? Bomb Al Qaeda? Bomb Hamas?

It's rhetoric.

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Thu 07/03/08 06:25 PM



pre-emptive defense


Kind of an oxymoron, isn't it?


If you know someone wants to annihilate you from the face of the Earth and you hit them first before they get the chance or have the opportunity to do so, would that not be pre-emptive defense from those that wish to do you harm rather than during when the bombs come raining down? Yes, pre-emptive defense, not appeasement and not allowing great destruction to come your way before you defend your people who will be caught in the onslaught of the devastation they seek on you.


In other words "nipping it in the bud?"

Lindyy
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Thu 07/03/08 06:27 PM



Starsailor2851.

Are you in the military? Have you ever been to war? Are you Jewish? Do you live in America or Israel?

JB


Why are you asking if I'm Jewish? You know, you're really ramping up with a bigot or racist label for yourself now.


I also asked you if you were in the military.
I also asked you if you had ever been to war.
I also asked you if you live in America or Israel.

But you get all riled up because I asked you if you were Jewish?

If you support Zionism I am curious if you are Jewish. I know that there are some non-Jewish people who support Zionism and that there are some Jews who are anti-Zionism.

If you don't want to tell me where you are coming from I would ask you why.

You are saying that we should bomb people because we think they might be dangerous. That is a ridiculous war mongering idea. I just want to know who I am talking to.

JB


I never said we should just blatantly start bombing people. I said if there is overwhelming clear evidence, like when Israel hit the nuclear site in Syria, then you should go ahead, no sit on your hands and wait till your own people get slaughtered. And, I'm not saying mass bombings to wipe out cities and towns. Israel hit a lone nuclear site, that was it.

The 'bomb people' tag is a bad tactic because I never said such, and it infers I meant just wipe out civilian populations for the heck of it for defense, which you don't believe is real.

Yes, you did ask other questions about me for my background, but that comes after multiple points directed at propaganda (which you tie to Zionist Jews) and Zionism in general. You think I was born yesterday and do not know what you are doing and setting up? I think I should say I am a Jew so you can go AH HAH! Why you would I do not know, because if I was then I must immediately be an "evil Zionist pig who rules America and loves to slaughter innocents for their own gains", you know, the usual jazz people paint Zionists as.

Go look up the definition of Zionism on Websters dictionary or something. It merely means one who supports a state of Israel or the ability for a state of Israel to exist.

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Thu 07/03/08 06:29 PM


Are you a Zionist then Starsailor2851?


If you mean do I support a state of Israel, then yes. That is what Zionism is. The non-twisted, non-bigotted, non-propagandized definition.


YEA! I finally found out what Zionism truely is. I am a ZIONIST. I love Israel!!:smile:

Lindyy
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Thu 07/03/08 06:32 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Thu 07/03/08 06:33 PM




pre-emptive defense


Kind of an oxymoron, isn't it?


If you know someone wants to annihilate you from the face of the Earth and you hit them first before they get the chance or have the opportunity to do so, would that not be pre-emptive defense from those that wish to do you harm rather than during when the bombs come raining down? Yes, pre-emptive defense, not appeasement and not allowing great destruction to come your way before you defend your people who will be caught in the onslaught of the devastation they seek on you.


In other words "nipping it in the bud?"

Lindyy
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Yes.

We can use this as a great example.

Domestic violence and restraining orders. You just left your husband, and he has been threatening you so you get a restraining order. Suddenly he calls you, you find threatening notes and know where they are from, you see him watching you. You tell the cops. They say they can't do anything unless he comes too close, but if he does do call us.

So, you stay inside fearing for yourself, and then suddenly the door breaks down and he's there with a knife to kill you. Now what? You're dead.

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The same people will be against these policies, but when it comes to the same thing in the political worlds where death is very clear and present to be brought against your people who you swore your life to protect, you can't do anything to stop it, until after the destruction and death is brought against you.

You can't be pro-active. Only death and destruction can bring action to deal with evil. So, a human sacrifice is first needed. Oh yes, this is a great policy. It is a flawed theory that these people hold so tightly onto.

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Thu 07/03/08 06:33 PM





Are you a Zionist then Starsailor2851?


If you mean do I support a state of Israel, then yes. That is what Zionism is. The non-twisted, non-bigotted, non-propagandized definition.


And who educated you in all this propaganda that you are now spreading?


Propaganda I'm spreading? Tell me how so that it is? I get my information from the Associated Press, worldwide news organizations, the vast studies of history and politics I have undertaken as both school and personal interest related. I back up everything I state grounded in real events, reported events by numerous sources. I do not utter slang or one line jabs backed up by sincere hatreds.

...Unlike some people I know.


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Associated Press? Okay, whatever.

I do not support the State Of Israel.
I do not support "preemptive strikes."

That is like saying... "Oh, I killed him because I was quite sure his intentions were to kill me."

Nobody can know what another person's intentions are.

The leaders of Israel are ruthless evil people. I feel sorry for the good people who were convinced to go and live there.

JB




Ewwwwwww. Not nice comment.

I love Israel. I am a Zionist and proud of it!
Lindyy
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Thu 07/03/08 06:34 PM
Edited by Jeanniebean on Thu 07/03/08 06:37 PM
Go look up the definition of Zionism on Websters dictionary or something. It merely means one who supports a state of Israel or the ability for a state of Israel to exist.


I wasn't born yesterday either. In fact, when you were born I was 33 years old. I know what Zionism is and what its agenda is and has been since before I was born.

I don't support it. It has played a major part in every world war on earth. There is more of an agenda involved besides merely the existence of the state of Israel. If that was the only objective, it would have been achieved by now.

JB

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Thu 07/03/08 06:37 PM
Edited by Starsailor2851 on Thu 07/03/08 06:38 PM

I don't support it. It has played a major part in every world war on earth. There is more of an agenda involved besides merely the existence of the state of Israel. It that was the only objective, it would have been achieved by now.


What? Zionism has been at least a partial cause of every world war on Earth? And there is more of an agenda than just Israel?

The Zionist Jews going to control the world and rule us all?

That is beyond ridiculous. I knew taking you seriously was pointless.

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Thu 07/03/08 06:41 PM
Conspiratorial Nutjobs have an issue in their sad pathetic lives. They are missing something so they need to create some ficticious grand event to make it far more exciting and involved, like they are some grand enlightened hero figure, to feel better about themselves and their meager position in this world.

What a sad state that is to be in.

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Thu 07/03/08 06:44 PM


I don't support it. It has played a major part in every world war on earth. There is more of an agenda involved besides merely the existence of the state of Israel. It that was the only objective, it would have been achieved by now.


What? Zionism has been at least a partial cause of every world war on Earth? And there is more of an agenda than just Israel?

The Zionist Jews going to control the world and rule us all?

That is beyond ridiculous. I knew taking you seriously was pointless.


I don't believe I said that the Zionist Jews are going to "control the world and rule us all." These are your words, not mine.

And it is not my job to educate you and frankly I don't care what you believe or whether to take me seriously. You are very young, you should spend some time finding the real truth.

JB




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Thu 07/03/08 06:46 PM



I don't support it. It has played a major part in every world war on earth. There is more of an agenda involved besides merely the existence of the state of Israel. It that was the only objective, it would have been achieved by now.


What? Zionism has been at least a partial cause of every world war on Earth? And there is more of an agenda than just Israel?

The Zionist Jews going to control the world and rule us all?

That is beyond ridiculous. I knew taking you seriously was pointless.


I don't believe I said that the Zionist Jews are going to "control the world and rule us all." These are your words, not mine.

And it is not my job to educate you and frankly I don't care what you believe or whether to take me seriously. You are very young, you should spend some time finding the real truth.

JB


Oh, I suppose you are going to 'teach me' with all this great wise teachings that you've written at great lengths about already? By the way, where would they be exactly?

When you say "There is more of an agenda involved besides merely the existence of the state of Israel." what do you mean with that?

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Thu 07/03/08 06:46 PM


I don't support it. It has played a major part in every world war on earth. There is more of an agenda involved besides merely the existence of the state of Israel. It that was the only objective, it would have been achieved by now.


What? Zionism has been at least a partial cause of every world war on Earth? And there is more of an agenda than just Israel?

The Zionist Jews going to control the world and rule us all?

That is beyond ridiculous. I knew taking you seriously was pointless.

America is already controlled by Zionists and the whole world knows that : from the white house to the pentagon , from the media to the businesses....etc .Who are the American politicians advisors ?!.

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Thu 07/03/08 06:48 PM

Conspiratorial Nutjobs have an issue in their sad pathetic lives. They are missing something so they need to create some ficticious grand event to make it far more exciting and involved, like they are some grand enlightened hero figure, to feel better about themselves and their meager position in this world.

What a sad state that is to be in.



Anyone who digs for and discovers the truth of world politics are called names like "conspiratorial nutjobs" in order to attempt to discredit them. But the truth will not be hidden.
There are too many who know the truth. You are not one of them.

Have a nice life.frown

JB

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