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If that were correct, don't you think that the MANY scholars that have researched the Bible and history would have mentioned that and shared it with other scholars making people aware of that.There is no way it has already happen as far as I'm concerned. After the Rapture the world won't look like this....There wouldn't be people left here. During the "glorious reapearing of Christ" He takes us home. Forever. There wouldn't be life here. You'd think that wouldn'tcha? the truth is that it was along held christian belief from the earliest times - jesus taught it - cant get much earlier than that. it's called truth, if you open your ears and eyes you will see it also. |
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sounds like you need help my friend We all need help from time to time - that's what i am giving you - "help" see it as that and you will see im not sadly mistaken, but happily correct. |
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smoke em if you got them, bum them if you don't....going to hell....hot damn no hell my friend, unless you think your going to continue on this earth forever 
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it has already occurred, so has the final judgement, so has all the other thing's jesus and the apostles talked about in scripture, they all took place by 70 AD, when the destruction of Jerusalem, was accomplished by God and by the Romans. the only thing you can possibly put your faith in now is your own individual faith in your messiah, jesus, and your god. You have been taken in by a teaching that is false and have spread it throughout the modern world, your evangelical belief's of dispensational teacher's have led your itchy ear's astray, they have divided your bible wrongly, and you continue to mislead both yourselves and other's with fallacy of what's to come. There is NOTHING left to come, but death. I think what is coming is a new earth. Yes, lots of death too. But Life will go on. Some believe that humans will ascend to a higher density or to their higher selves ~~ or that the frequency of the earth will change. Some say that reality and DNA will change at the quantum levels. Some believe that the earth will pass through to the other side of the galaxy and time as we know it ~~will cease to exist after the year 2012. (That is the place in the galaxy they call the sacred tree.) Others say that the earth could be consumed by fire from a single solar flare from the sun during that crossing in 2012. I don't think it will happen, although it is possible. I think Tribo is right about the Jesus thing. I think all that so-called prophecy is ancient history and has already happened. Although the believers persist, the religion is dead. the vibration is always in flux when active, one day it will not be in flux and all will cease in your holographic matrix my love, till then may the farce not be with you 
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it has already occurred, so has the final judgement, so has all the other thing's jesus and the apostles talked about in scripture, they all took place by 70 AD, when the destruction of Jerusalem, was accomplished by God and by the Romans. the only thing you can possibly put your faith in now is your own individual faith in your messiah, jesus, and your god. You have been taken in by a teaching that is false and have spread it throughout the modern world, your evangelical belief's of dispensational teacher's have led your itchy ear's astray, they have divided your bible wrongly, and you continue to mislead both yourselves and other's with fallacy of what's to come. There is NOTHING left to come, but death. what a beautiful way to proselytize my friend. You should start like seminars to instruct "christians" how to recruit believers. You would be making horrific amounts of money. |
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it has already occurred, so has the final judgement, so has all the other thing's jesus and the apostles talked about in scripture, they all took place by 70 AD, when the destruction of Jerusalem, was accomplished by God and by the Romans. the only thing you can possibly put your faith in now is your own individual faith in your messiah, jesus, and your god. You have been taken in by a teaching that is false and have spread it throughout the modern world, your evangelical belief's of dispensational teacher's have led your itchy ear's astray, they have divided your bible wrongly, and you continue to mislead both yourselves and other's with fallacy of what's to come. There is NOTHING left to come, but death. what a beautiful way to proselytize my friend. You should start like seminars to instruct "christians" how to recruit believers. You would be making horrific amounts of money. Why thnx TLW, but i have no desire to "proselytize anyone - i really could care less what other's choose to believe as to personal relationships with their god or jesus, not the point - the point is Darby taught untruth's about and of end times theology, exegesis and hermeneutics's and history, all I'm trying to do is to get people to look at the long standing facts of early Christianity's beliefs before Darby, scofield and of late Hal Lindsey and other's have taken so much out of context in perpetrating the lies of Darby/scofield, will you not even look into it? hm-mm? if not then if your expecting a rapture and believe the fig tree is jerusalem reborn in 1948, and other you will die ignorant of what Jesus really is teaching. your choice as it is the other's. but evangelical/dispensational teaching has lead million's upon million's astray of this, not my problem, I'm not the teacher - god is / jesus is - and there preaching and teaching wrongly inside evangelical churches and future belief's. not my argument take it up with the Preterist. |
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Edited by
TheLonelyWalker
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Thu 07/03/08 11:41 AM
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it has already occurred, so has the final judgement, so has all the other thing's jesus and the apostles talked about in scripture, they all took place by 70 AD, when the destruction of Jerusalem, was accomplished by God and by the Romans. the only thing you can possibly put your faith in now is your own individual faith in your messiah, jesus, and your god. You have been taken in by a teaching that is false and have spread it throughout the modern world, your evangelical belief's of dispensational teacher's have led your itchy ear's astray, they have divided your bible wrongly, and you continue to mislead both yourselves and other's with fallacy of what's to come. There is NOTHING left to come, but death. what a beautiful way to proselytize my friend. You should start like seminars to instruct "christians" how to recruit believers. You would be making horrific amounts of money. Why thnx TLW, but i have no desire to "proselytize anyone - i really could care less what other's choose to believe as to personal relationships with their god or jesus, not the point - the point is Darby taught untruth's about and of end times theology, exegesis and hermeneutics's and history, all I'm trying to do is to get people to look at the long standing facts of early Christianity's beliefs before Darby, scofield and of late Hal Lindsey and other's have taken so much out of context in perpetrating the lies of Darby/scofield, will you not even look into it? hm-mm? if not then if your expecting a rapture and believe the fig tree is jerusalem reborn in 1948, and other you will die ignorant of what Jesus really is teaching. your choice as it is the other's. but evangelical/dispensational teaching has lead million's upon million's astray of this, not my problem, I'm not the teacher - god is / jesus is - and there preaching and teaching wrongly inside evangelical churches and future belief's. not my argument take it up with the Preterist. well all those authors you have cited are fundamentalist preachers. whose purpose is to convert masses through hate and fear. the base of their preaching is to make people believe that they are damn by their sins, and if they don't convert as soon as they can they will burn in hell. quite an effective way to preslytize 40 or 50 years ago. However, since populations are becoming more educated such tactics become less effective. I'm a christian not because I'm scared of hell. To be honest hell is the last thing I think of. I'm a christian because one single command: "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And the second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all of the law and the prophets" (Matthew 22:36-40). If I live by this, sin and hell become an issue of second importance. |
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it has already occurred, so has the final judgement, so has all the other thing's jesus and the apostles talked about in scripture, they all took place by 70 AD, when the destruction of Jerusalem, was accomplished by God and by the Romans. the only thing you can possibly put your faith in now is your own individual faith in your messiah, jesus, and your god. You have been taken in by a teaching that is false and have spread it throughout the modern world, your evangelical belief's of dispensational teacher's have led your itchy ear's astray, they have divided your bible wrongly, and you continue to mislead both yourselves and other's with fallacy of what's to come. There is NOTHING left to come, but death. I think what is coming is a new earth. Yes, lots of death too. But Life will go on. Some believe that humans will ascend to a higher density or to their higher selves ~~ or that the frequency of the earth will change. Some say that reality and DNA will change at the quantum levels. Some believe that the earth will pass through to the other side of the galaxy and time as we know it ~~will cease to exist after the year 2012. (That is the place in the galaxy they call the sacred tree.) Others say that the earth could be consumed by fire from a single solar flare from the sun during that crossing in 2012. I don't think it will happen, although it is possible. I think Tribo is right about the Jesus thing. I think all that so-called prophecy is ancient history and has already happened. Although the believers persist, the religion is dead. the vibration is always in flux when active, one day it will not be in flux and all will cease in your holographic matrix my love, till then may the farce not be with you
Yeh, I hope they don't unplug the holodeck. All of this could just disappear.  
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it has already occurred, so has the final judgement, so has all the other thing's jesus and the apostles talked about in scripture, they all took place by 70 AD, when the destruction of Jerusalem, was accomplished by God and by the Romans. the only thing you can possibly put your faith in now is your own individual faith in your messiah, jesus, and your god. You have been taken in by a teaching that is false and have spread it throughout the modern world, your evangelical belief's of dispensational teacher's have led your itchy ear's astray, they have divided your bible wrongly, and you continue to mislead both yourselves and other's with fallacy of what's to come. There is NOTHING left to come, but death. what a beautiful way to proselytize my friend. You should start like seminars to instruct "christians" how to recruit believers. You would be making horrific amounts of money. Why thnx TLW, but i have no desire to "proselytize anyone - i really could care less what other's choose to believe as to personal relationships with their god or jesus, not the point - the point is Darby taught untruth's about and of end times theology, exegesis and hermeneutics's and history, all I'm trying to do is to get people to look at the long standing facts of early Christianity's beliefs before Darby, scofield and of late Hal Lindsey and other's have taken so much out of context in perpetrating the lies of Darby/scofield, will you not even look into it? hm-mm? if not then if your expecting a rapture and believe the fig tree is jerusalem reborn in 1948, and other you will die ignorant of what Jesus really is teaching. your choice as it is the other's. but evangelical/dispensational teaching has lead million's upon million's astray of this, not my problem, I'm not the teacher - god is / jesus is - and there preaching and teaching wrongly inside evangelical churches and future belief's. not my argument take it up with the Preterist. well all those authors you have cited are fundamentalist preachers. whose purpose is to convert masses through hate and fear. the base of their preaching is to make people believe that they are damn by their sins, and if they don't convert as soon as they can they will burn in hell. quite an effective way to preslytize 40 or 50 years ago. However, since populations are becoming more educated such tactics become less effective. I'm a christian not because I'm scared of hell. To be honest hell is the last thing I think of. I'm a christian because one single command: "You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind. This is the great and first commandment. And the second is like it, You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depend all of the law and the prophets" (Matthew 22:36-40). If I live by this, sin and hell become an issue of second importance. yes and the bible should have ended there, unfortunately it did not, more like over a hundred yrs since scofield took darby views and put out his bible which is followed today whether they the evangelicals know it or not. again if you go to the core of what started this future belief in raptures, armageddon, christ return and other, you find darby behind it all. not god, not jesus, you my friend may have the best faith of all. to bad other's do not follow suit, but expound their myths upon the greater population, sincerly, tribo |
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Most unfortunately what will probably happen is they here, will look into it from reading dipensational author's works combating the preterest belief's and not even look into it on their own. Thus feeling satisfied that they still have truth and faith in those belief's they now hold so dear. It's the old "whiz of oz" mentality - "Do not pay any attention to the man behind the curtain, I the great and terrible oz have spoken"
when man puts aside that which he's read and accepted as truth, long enough to continue to explore other christian holding's both earlier and more convincing than what they first thought to be true, then and only then may they discover man's folly. you've put your trust in writers and preachers instead of in god and jesus when it comes to end times revelations, but then what's new? nothing. |
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ALL OF THIS ALMOST MAKES SENSE!
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.... AND ALL THE WHILE, SATAN'S READING THIS, ROFL
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You had better stop smoking what you are smoking and read your bible. You are badly mistaken my friend. It seems he does not believe in the bible . Does he have to ?. |
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Tribo, my friend you forgot to mention the boss of all these fundamentalist preachers:
LORAINE BOETTNER. |
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Edited by
tribo
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Thu 07/03/08 03:05 PM
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Tribo, my friend you forgot to mention the boss of all these fundamentalist preachers: LORAINE BOETTNER. of course - my apologies, thnx TLW, their are many other's also but for sure she had much influence. i find the ones from the Dallas theological cemetery to be the new core though, since the 60's and 70's. they have ingrained the evangelicals with there thinking and futurist outlooks, those you see on TV, tbn,700 club, and all their guest. it has taken them a century to become embedded in dispensational teachings leading the sheep astray so to say, they are the one's who are the great and rich proselytizers not me 
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Tribo, my friend you forgot to mention the boss of all these fundamentalist preachers: LORAINE BOETTNER. of course - my apologies, thnx TLW, their are many other's also but for sure she had much influence. i find the ones from the Dallas theological cemetery to be the new core though, since the 60's and 70's. they have ingrained the evangelicals with there thinking and futurist outlooks, those you see on TV, tbn,700 club, and all their guest. it has taken them a century to become embedded in dispensational teachings leading the sheep astray so to say, they are the one's who are the great and rich proselytizers not me
just a small correction. believe it or not. this individual was a he, not a she. google it, if you want to confirm. |
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Tribo, my friend you forgot to mention the boss of all these fundamentalist preachers: LORAINE BOETTNER. of course - my apologies, thnx TLW, their are many other's also but for sure she had much influence. i find the ones from the Dallas theological cemetery to be the new core though, since the 60's and 70's. they have ingrained the evangelicals with there thinking and futurist outlooks, those you see on TV, tbn,700 club, and all their guest. it has taken them a century to become embedded in dispensational teachings leading the sheep astray so to say, they are the one's who are the great and rich proselytizers not me
just a small correction. believe it or not. this individual was a he, not a she. google it, if you want to confirm. no need to your absolutely correct, my grammatical error, i apologize. |
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there are so many TLW, that i cannot fit them all here, a centuries worth of such thing's now believed as correct, but anyone who is interested may find all of these at it's core, and many other off shoots also.
for me it's a matter of putting aside what the majority sees as right and looking into what other's hold as right and looking at why two such large or vast differences are even present within one church?? Then with due diligence searching biblically to see which holds the truth or most reasonable perception of correct exegesis, hermeneutics's and any historical fact's to back them up so to say, from there one can determine what is correct, and of course as i said looking at where the core of one's beliefs stem from - in this case Darby / Scofield. christian history is filled with man following after man instead of god.thats why in my book i say - " lies are never more convincing than when hid among truth's." |
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Edited by
wouldee
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Thu 07/03/08 04:00 PM
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it has already occurred, so has the final judgement, so has all the other thing's jesus and the apostles talked about in scripture, they all took place by 70 AD, when the destruction of Jerusalem, was accomplished by God and by the Romans. the only thing you can possibly put your faith in now is your own individual faith in your messiah, jesus, and your god. You have been taken in by a teaching that is false and have spread it throughout the modern world, your evangelical belief's of dispensational teacher's have led your itchy ear's astray, they have divided your bible wrongly, and you continue to mislead both yourselves and other's with fallacy of what's to come. There is NOTHING left to come, but death. Psalms 22:28-31. For the kingdom is the LORD's : and he is the governor among the nations. All they that befat before shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him : and none can keep alive his own soul. A seed shall serve him ; it shall be counted to the LORD for a generation. They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a peoipl that shall be born, that he has done this. The generation is "all they thaT GO DOWN TO THE DUST", TRIBO. that includes you. read your Bible again. It says, " get the Holy Spirit." That is your first responsibility. Then if the LORD sees fit to call you to preach his business, then you will get it riught. Took me one minute to share this. How long did it take you to imagine things are otherwise? excuses, tribo, nothing but excuses.   
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Edited by
tribo
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Thu 07/03/08 04:37 PM
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it has already occurred, so has the final judgement, so has all the other thing's jesus and the apostles talked about in scripture, they all took place by 70 AD, when the destruction of Jerusalem, was accomplished by God and by the Romans. the only thing you can possibly put your faith in now is your own individual faith in your messiah, jesus, and your god. You have been taken in by a teaching that is false and have spread it throughout the modern world, your evangelical belief's of dispensational teacher's have led your itchy ear's astray, they have divided your bible wrongly, and you continue to mislead both yourselves and other's with fallacy of what's to come. There is NOTHING left to come, but death. Psalms 22:28-31. For the kingdom is the LORD's : and he is the governor among the nations. All they that befat before shall eat and worship: all they that go down to the dust shall bow before him : and none can keep alive his own soul. A seed shall serve him ; it shall be counted to the LORD for a generation. They shall come, and shall declare his righteousness unto a peoipl that shall be born, that he has done this. The generation is "all they thaT GO DOWN TO THE DUST", TRIBO. that includes you. read your Bible again. It says, " get the Holy Spirit." That is your first responsibility. Then if the LORD sees fit to call you to preach his business, then you will get it riught. Took me one minute to share this. How long did it take you to imagine things are otherwise? excuses, tribo, nothing but excuses.
ahh dear wouldee, take it up with the spirit filled preterest, it is an issue with them not with me. I donot teach anything - i only point the way for other's to investigate and find answers to the bible. i hold no christian view anymore - you<>preterest -is where you'll find the truth of your own religion open your eyes and you will see.
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