Topic: What does everone think about Florida new law, you allowed t
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Wed 07/29/09 11:04 AM





heck with that just get a holster and carry it in the open


you have the right to bare arms


it is the law
NOT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY! It would be up to owner no? As said Publix, Disney is private property and the same as your home no?

templter -
can the parking lot of your 2 examples be considered private as they are for public use?

I've seen many accidents in parking lots where the police do not issue summons as accidents happened on public property as per officer on site.


Look it up PRIVATE PROPRTY is Private property. Now do you want someone to tell you what you must do on yours?

yikes you are a bit testy - I am telling what I have seen - I have seen an accident in a Publix parking lot and an officer just took report issuing no summons as he said the accident happened on PUBLIC PROPERTY (not private property as you say).

Who is telling you what to do on YOUR PROPERTY?




Publix is privately owned and not public property!

franshade's photo
Wed 07/29/09 11:04 AM

Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

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Wed 07/29/09 11:08 AM
the most law abiding towns......................are the towns where everyone carries......this is a FACT!

i prefer bear mace, staff, and throwing stars to guns, and in close range, laminated chopsticks, and chopsticks fit on the plane too, or in ladies hair.......


best deadliest weapon is your brain, and how you utilize the things around you. most things are lethal weapons if you think about it.

adj4u's photo
Wed 07/29/09 11:09 AM





heck with that just get a holster and carry it in the open


you have the right to bare arms


it is the law
NOT ON PRIVATE PROPERTY! It would be up to owner no? As said Publix, Disney is private property and the same as your home no?

templter -
can the parking lot of your 2 examples be considered private as they are for public use?

I've seen many accidents in parking lots where the police do not issue summons as accidents happened on public property as per officer on site.


Look it up PRIVATE PROPRTY is Private property. Now do you want someone to tell you what you must do on yours?

yikes you are a bit testy - I am telling what I have seen - I have seen an accident in a Publix parking lot and an officer just took report issuing no summons as he said the accident happened on PUBLIC PROPERTY (not private property as you say).

Who is telling you what to do on YOUR PROPERTY?







private proberty does not over ride the constitution

if it did their would still be whites only and coloreds only businesses

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Wed 07/29/09 11:10 AM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 07/29/09 11:11 AM


Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

I have read it and know what it says. WE need to enforce the laws we have without stepping on PRIVATE PROPERTY owners rights. You can say public property all you want when it is Private Property!

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Wed 07/29/09 11:13 AM


heck with that just get a holster and carry it in the open

you have the right to bare arms

it is the law


bare arms - wearing sleeveless shirts/tops tongue2


you missed the following post i see

:wink: laugh laugh laugh



so cut off your sleeves




so there

:wink: laugh :tongue:

franshade's photo
Wed 07/29/09 11:16 AM



Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

I have read it and know what it says. WE need to enforce the laws we have without stepping on PRIVATE PROPERTY owners rights. You can say public property all you want when it is Private Property!


public / private -- whatever makes you happy waving

If Publix doesn't want me (an employee) to be able to carry my legal gun, store it legally in my vehicle, then they are the one's breaking the law, not me. Right?


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Wed 07/29/09 11:21 AM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 07/29/09 11:26 AM




Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

I have read it and know what it says. WE need to enforce the laws we have without stepping on PRIVATE PROPERTY owners rights. You can say public property all you want when it is Private Property!


public / private -- whatever makes you happy waving

If Publix doesn't want me (an employee) to be able to carry my legal gun, store it legally in my vehicle, then they are the one's breaking the law, not me. Right?


Ok since abortion is legal then shouldn't all Drs be forced to allow them to take place on their private property(Unless its goverment owned its Private Property)since its legal? After all it is a Business!

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Wed 07/29/09 11:30 AM





Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

I have read it and know what it says. WE need to enforce the laws we have without stepping on PRIVATE PROPERTY owners rights. You can say public property all you want when it is Private Property!


public / private -- whatever makes you happy waving

If Publix doesn't want me (an employee) to be able to carry my legal gun, store it legally in my vehicle, then they are the one's breaking the law, not me. Right?


Ok since abortion is legal then shouldn't all Drs be forced to allow them to take place on their private property(Unless its goverment owned its Private Property)since its legal?

you want to compare apples and oranges

The gun law is to allow those employees who wish and are licensed to carry to leave their weapon in their vehicles and insuring they do not lose their employment due to this. (I would not do this-jmo)

How would this pertain to doctors???



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Wed 07/29/09 11:32 AM
offtopic tongue2 ADJ tongue2 bare arms

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Wed 07/29/09 11:34 AM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 07/29/09 11:38 AM






Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

I have read it and know what it says. WE need to enforce the laws we have without stepping on PRIVATE PROPERTY owners rights. You can say public property all you want when it is Private Property!


public / private -- whatever makes you happy waving

If Publix doesn't want me (an employee) to be able to carry my legal gun, store it legally in my vehicle, then they are the one's breaking the law, not me. Right?


Ok since abortion is legal then shouldn't all Drs be forced to allow them to take place on their private property(Unless its goverment owned its Private Property)since its legal?

you want to compare apples and oranges

The gun law is to allow those employees who wish and are licensed to carry to leave their weapon in their vehicles and insuring they do not lose their employment due to this. (I would not do this-jmo)

How would this pertain to doctors???



All Im saying is if Publix and Disney lose their right not to allow this on their property....Where is it going to end. Whats next...The Drs like I mentioned? Your own home? Its private property no matter how you twist it!

franshade's photo
Wed 07/29/09 11:58 AM







Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

I have read it and know what it says. WE need to enforce the laws we have without stepping on PRIVATE PROPERTY owners rights. You can say public property all you want when it is Private Property!


public / private -- whatever makes you happy waving

If Publix doesn't want me (an employee) to be able to carry my legal gun, store it legally in my vehicle, then they are the one's breaking the law, not me. Right?


Ok since abortion is legal then shouldn't all Drs be forced to allow them to take place on their private property(Unless its goverment owned its Private Property)since its legal?

you want to compare apples and oranges

The gun law is to allow those employees who wish and are licensed to carry to leave their weapon in their vehicles and insuring they do not lose their employment due to this. (I would not do this-jmo)

How would this pertain to doctors???



All Im saying is if Publix and Disney lose their right not to allow this on their property....Where is it going to end. Whats next...The Drs like I mentioned? Your own home? Its private property no matter how you twist it!


Solution - get rid of the parking lots - that way employees cannot keep their weapons secured in their vehicles on Publix property.

see not twisting a thing :wink:

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Wed 07/29/09 12:01 PM
Edited by Unknow on Wed 07/29/09 12:02 PM








Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

I have read it and know what it says. WE need to enforce the laws we have without stepping on PRIVATE PROPERTY owners rights. You can say public property all you want when it is Private Property!


public / private -- whatever makes you happy waving

If Publix doesn't want me (an employee) to be able to carry my legal gun, store it legally in my vehicle, then they are the one's breaking the law, not me. Right?


Ok since abortion is legal then shouldn't all Drs be forced to allow them to take place on their private property(Unless its goverment owned its Private Property)since its legal?

you want to compare apples and oranges

The gun law is to allow those employees who wish and are licensed to carry to leave their weapon in their vehicles and insuring they do not lose their employment due to this. (I would not do this-jmo)

How would this pertain to doctors???



All Im saying is if Publix and Disney lose their right not to allow this on their property....Where is it going to end. Whats next...The Drs like I mentioned? Your own home? Its private property no matter how you twist it!


Solution - get rid of the parking lots - that way employees cannot keep their weapons secured in their vehicles on Publix property.

see not twisting a thing :wink:
Or refuse to work there or shop there. I dont like Publix anyways!!!!laugh

franshade's photo
Wed 07/29/09 12:03 PM









Wow!!! testy for speaking the truth....Ill will have to remember that one...

testy for the way you responded - doesn't mean much it's just my opinion of your response flowerforyou


The "Preservation and Protection of the Right to Keep and Bear Arms in Motor Vehicles Act of 2008" states that:

The statute provides that an “employer”—that is, a business with at least one worker who has a concealed carry permit—may not:
(1) prohibit a worker with a concealed-carry permit from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(2) prohibit a customer—whether or not he or she has a concealed-carry permit—from securing a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot;
(3) ask a worker with a concealed carry permit or a customer whether he or she has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot, take any action against such a worker or against a customer based on a statement about whether the worker or customer has a gun in a vehicle in a parking lot for lawful purposes, or search a vehicle in a parking lot for a gun;
(4) condition employment on whether a person has a concealed-carry permit;
(5) terminate a worker with a concealed-carry permit, or otherwise discriminate against such a worker, or expel a customer, for having a gun in a vehicle on the business’s property, unless the gun is exhibited on the property. A business that does not have at least one worker with a concealed-carry permit is not subject to any of these provisions.

I have read it and know what it says. WE need to enforce the laws we have without stepping on PRIVATE PROPERTY owners rights. You can say public property all you want when it is Private Property!


public / private -- whatever makes you happy waving

If Publix doesn't want me (an employee) to be able to carry my legal gun, store it legally in my vehicle, then they are the one's breaking the law, not me. Right?


Ok since abortion is legal then shouldn't all Drs be forced to allow them to take place on their private property(Unless its goverment owned its Private Property)since its legal?

you want to compare apples and oranges

The gun law is to allow those employees who wish and are licensed to carry to leave their weapon in their vehicles and insuring they do not lose their employment due to this. (I would not do this-jmo)

How would this pertain to doctors???



All Im saying is if Publix and Disney lose their right not to allow this on their property....Where is it going to end. Whats next...The Drs like I mentioned? Your own home? Its private property no matter how you twist it!


Solution - get rid of the parking lots - that way employees cannot keep their weapons secured in their vehicles on Publix property.

see not twisting a thing :wink:
Or refuse to work there or shop there. I dont like Publix anyways!!!!laugh


:thumbsup:

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Wed 07/29/09 02:20 PM

offtopic tongue2 ADJ tongue2 bare arms


fran you keep giving me tongue yer getting me all excited drool blushing

what to do what to do

frans giving me tongue drool drool

fun fun fun

flowers flowers

adj4u's photo
Wed 07/29/09 11:52 PM

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Thu 07/30/09 04:45 PM
The simple fact is, if someone wants to invoke terror and holdup somewhere or threaten someone with a gun, whether there is a law in place or not, they will do it. So simply being allowed to with a permit doesn't make anywhere more or less dangerous. Think about it.

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Fri 07/31/09 06:10 AM



I can see these girls teenage years....GET your hand out of my pants! I told ya to get you hand out of my pants! Breaks out the 357 and say in a their cute Cint Eastwood voice " Make my day!!!! NOW GET YOUR FRIGIN HAND OUT OF MY PANTS!!!!!

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Fri 07/31/09 06:57 AM

The simple fact is, if someone wants to invoke terror and holdup somewhere or threaten someone with a gun, whether there is a law in place or not, they will do it. So simply being allowed to with a permit doesn't make anywhere more or less dangerous. Think about it.


it makes the law biding citizen able to protect themselves rather than just being another statistic under the those hurt maimed or murdered in the commission of a crime

if the criminal knew they would be shot back at they probably would go elsewhere to commit their crime

if you get it to the point no matter where they go to commit their crime they are likely to get shot crime will be reduced dramatically

if you check the stats places that allow gun carrying by law biding citizens have lower violent crime rates

these stats have been posted in the past with links so if you want the stats google them

drinker

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Fri 07/31/09 07:07 AM
you all have taken this topic so far off topic even I am now confused laugh

The law just allows employees to legally store their weapons in their vehicles while parked at place of employment. Protecting the employee from being dismissed or fired for bringing his weapon.