Topic: Anyone on here with a Pagan beliefe system?
Lily0923's photo
Tue 06/17/08 07:56 PM



Good o see I am not the only one. Religions in general interest me. Just what people believe and why they believe it and their Philosophies and stuff. Whether it be Pagan or otherwise. Right now, I am reading Anton LaVey (He started the Church of Satan and Wrote the Satanic Bible)Not that I have any interest in being a Satanist, it just interests me.


I'm Pagan, and am legal clegy of said religion in the state of Ohio, I am authorized to provide wedding ceremonies, last rites and prison visits for pagans behind bars, although there usually aren't any as we walk a more moral and higher ground.


I also do all the above.....and try and live as Jesus intended.....but I think you better be real careful of picking up that first stone lil girl.


In 4 years of doing this I have been called upon 3 times to minister to Pagan's.... A troup of 10 go in every sunday and are there all day...So it's not casting stones it's proven... There are more Christians in jail then there are Pagans... Look it up if you don't believe me.

FearandLoathing's photo
Wed 06/18/08 12:20 AM
I've been told I would make a good Norse.smokin

karmafury's photo
Wed 06/18/08 04:25 AM


Why must a Pagan be a devil worshiper? :angry: huh

Lily0923's photo
Wed 06/18/08 09:10 AM
Isn't it sad when "being right" outweighs the truth of the matter....noway noway noway

My favorite responses to "Christians"

"It's your hell you burn in it"

"Have you found Jesus?"
"Why do you keep loosing your messiah? It wasn't my turn to watch him."


Rathil_Thads's photo
Wed 06/18/08 09:15 AM

Isn't it sad when "being right" outweighs the truth of the matter....noway noway noway

My favorite responses to "Christians"

"It's your hell you burn in it"

"Have you found Jesus?"
"Why do you keep loosing your messiah? It wasn't my turn to watch him."




I agree Lily, you are so right!

Yeah, I have used the "It's your hell you burn in it" before but I really like that other one. I may steal that from you. :-D

Although you are right. There are so many people out there that just NEED to convince other people that their religion is the right one that they lose sight of what really matters. I mean it doesn't bother me what people choose to believe in and I never try to convert. It's their path to find for themselves. I just like asking questions to understand the other people and why they think that way. Then they get mad at me for trying to convert them to my way of thinking. grumble grumble

I don't understand it...

TxsGal3333's photo
Wed 06/18/08 09:26 AM
This is a friendly reminder. At no time are members allowed to attack others. Does not matter if it is for their BELIEFS or their OPINION!

Please refrain yourselves from doing so.

We all have the right to believe in whom or what ever we shall seem deemed too.

Regardless if it is Pagan, God, or any other form of Religion it is our choice and it is not for anyone else to down another for.

With that said I would suggest that at times it is best to say nothing at all if it can not be in a debate form.

Now have a Great Day and worship whom ever your heart desires!flowerforyou


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Lily0923's photo
Wed 06/18/08 09:26 AM
Pagan's don't prostelitize, we don't want you if you aren't ready... We don't want the mindless sheep, we want the well informed who have learned about all the other religions and seen their hypocracy... Not saying all Christians are that way, but I am so weary of the ones who are..

Live simply so that you may simply live.

I truthfully just find that it is a matter of different paths to the same place. No one is better and none are worse it's just what works for you.

Rathil_Thads's photo
Wed 06/18/08 09:38 AM

Pagan's don't prostelitize, we don't want you if you aren't ready... We don't want the mindless sheep, we want the well informed who have learned about all the other religions and seen their hypocracy... Not saying all Christians are that way, but I am so weary of the ones who are..

Live simply so that you may simply live.

I truthfully just find that it is a matter of different paths to the same place. No one is better and none are worse it's just what works for you.


I agree and I am glad that there are other people on here that understand that. Although I believe you said you follow a pagan belief system so that makes sense. I like that phrase though. "Live simply so that you may simply live" That is good advice. And so simple... drinker drinker

Lily0923's photo
Wed 06/18/08 09:49 AM


Pagan's don't prostelitize, we don't want you if you aren't ready... We don't want the mindless sheep, we want the well informed who have learned about all the other religions and seen their hypocracy... Not saying all Christians are that way, but I am so weary of the ones who are..

Live simply so that you may simply live.

I truthfully just find that it is a matter of different paths to the same place. No one is better and none are worse it's just what works for you.


I agree and I am glad that there are other people on here that understand that. Although I believe you said you follow a pagan belief system so that makes sense. I like that phrase though. "Live simply so that you may simply live" That is good advice. And so simple... drinker drinker


The problem with "religion" is the humans get in there and screw it up...laugh laugh

"Religion" has been around for millions of years, and really what have they done for anyone? Spirituality is what drives you, and makes you complete, you have to find a religion that helps your spirituality grow, not hinder your developement.

tribo's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:13 AM



Why must a Pagan be a devil worshiper? :angry: huh


beat's the "HELL" out of me - haaha

Rathil_Thads's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:18 AM




Why must a Pagan be a devil worshiper? :angry: huh


beat's the "HELL" out of me - haaha



LOL! Tribo with the bad puns!! How's it going buddy?drinker drinker

Blackbird's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:22 AM




That is a pretty general description of pagan. I had heard from somewhere that paganism was an actual religion. If this is so I expected more of a structured belief system. I don't expect a pagan to follow the teachings of Jesus, because that would make them more of a Christian. From what you describe it is just a term to tag on anyone who is not heavily into one of the other major religions.

My understanding of Wiccans is that they worship the earth and the earth mother or goddess, the sun, the moon, the stars, and they practice their version of magick etc. I have friends who loosely consider themselves wiccans or "witches."

I practice my "magick" through the creative techniques but they are not associated with the worship of a god or goddess.

JB




Right, Like I said. Pagan is a VERY broad term. It covers an entire set of beliefs and is not a structured religion at all. You could get 100 pagans in a room and they will each believe a different thing and perhaps even worship different Gods. Kind of why I said it is a religious Agnosticism really. They pick and choose what they believe and what makes sense to them and it could come from any religion or multiple religions. (By the way. Not all pagans believe or follow Jesus. I have just known some that like what he was preaching and incorporate that into their belief system.)

You are correct with Wiccans though. There is a earth mother goddess and a God in Wicca. The Goddess is the dominant diety though. They do look towards the sun, the moon, the stars for guidance and understanding and incorporate that into their magick. I only said witchcraft because that is what it is commonly associated with and most wiccans fully accept that. They don't consider being called a witch deragoratory(sp?)


Once during a lecture a pagan that I knew and was listening to with other pagans made a comment to the effect of:

"Since christianity became a mainstream religion and dominated the cultures we live in our original spiritual paths were lost. After Christianity has proven to be a complete failure we have saught the lessons of our original cultures, and began to make our own religions so we can find one that works."

This is a general statement of course...but conveys a somewhat accurate overall sentiment. Even in the cases of those that are trying to revive exactly ancient belief systems, much is unknown or unproven so they follow the old ways in theory without confirmation about details or significance in some things.


I find it rather funny that all you care about is ousting Christians....And again I say to you......be very care to judge as thee will be judged..


Corruption within religion is an ugly thing. It says nothing of the original religion, and speaks only to what the religion has come to represent to much of the world.

tribo's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:23 AM
Edited by tribo on Wed 06/18/08 10:26 AM





Why must a Pagan be a devil worshiper? :angry: huh


beat's the "HELL" out of me - haaha



LOL! Tribo with the bad puns!! How's it going buddy?drinker drinker


they erased my kingdom hahahasad

karma will be FURY-ious he has lost his grnddragon standing'slaugh

Blackbird's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:25 AM



Pagan's don't prostelitize, we don't want you if you aren't ready... We don't want the mindless sheep, we want the well informed who have learned about all the other religions and seen their hypocracy... Not saying all Christians are that way, but I am so weary of the ones who are..

Live simply so that you may simply live.

I truthfully just find that it is a matter of different paths to the same place. No one is better and none are worse it's just what works for you.


I agree and I am glad that there are other people on here that understand that. Although I believe you said you follow a pagan belief system so that makes sense. I like that phrase though. "Live simply so that you may simply live" That is good advice. And so simple... drinker drinker


The problem with "religion" is the humans get in there and screw it up...laugh laugh

"Religion" has been around for millions of years, and really what have they done for anyone? Spirituality is what drives you, and makes you complete, you have to find a religion that helps your spirituality grow, not hinder your developement.


Now if people could figure that out...the world would be a better place!

no photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:30 AM
Spirituality is what drives you, and makes you complete, you have to find a religion that helps your spirituality grow, not hinder your developement.


I think religion does play a part in helping people become more spiritual. Just like the idea of Santa Claus beings wonderment and magic into a child's life. But both of those can also bring a big disappointment as we outgrow them and realize they may not be true.

What you have to think about is what you learned from the journey and where are you going to go next.

JB

Rathil_Thads's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:34 AM
Edited by Rathil_Thads on Wed 06/18/08 10:38 AM






Why must a Pagan be a devil worshiper? :angry: huh


beat's the "HELL" out of me - haaha



LOL! Tribo with the bad puns!! How's it going buddy?drinker drinker


they erased my kingdom hahahasad

karma will be FURY-ious he has lost his grnddragon standing'slaugh


I know I saw that... :-( I was in middle of posting in there when they did. They also deleted a post in here I made that I guess was a little mean. I will have to try to rewrite it to be more politically correct I guess.. grumble grumble

Oh nvm. I guess they took out the post I was responding to as well. *Sighs*

Lily0923's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:39 AM

Oh nvm. I guess they took out the post I was responding to as well. *Sighs*


It was because you quoted the "satanist" post..

Rathil_Thads's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:46 AM


Oh nvm. I guess they took out the post I was responding to as well. *Sighs*


It was because you quoted the "satanist" post..


Oh, was that what it was? Oh well, I didn't have a problem with that post staying or anything as long as I got to defend it. But whatever.

Lily0923's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:49 AM



Oh nvm. I guess they took out the post I was responding to as well. *Sighs*


It was because you quoted the "satanist" post..


Oh, was that what it was? Oh well, I didn't have a problem with that post staying or anything as long as I got to defend it. But whatever.


Trust someone who's been suspended on MULTIPLE occasions for defending themselves, it's better to just ignore the ignorance.laugh laugh

Rathil_Thads's photo
Wed 06/18/08 10:54 AM




Oh nvm. I guess they took out the post I was responding to as well. *Sighs*


It was because you quoted the "satanist" post..


Oh, was that what it was? Oh well, I didn't have a problem with that post staying or anything as long as I got to defend it. But whatever.


Trust someone who's been suspended on MULTIPLE occasions for defending themselves, it's better to just ignore the ignorance.laugh laugh


LoL, yeah I don't do that too well. Ignorance is one of my biggest pet peeves and I feel it is my duty to "save" as many people as I can from Ignorance. laugh laugh

(Disclaimer: I am not saying religion is ignorance or any particular followings are ignorant. I am just saying ignorance in general)