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Topic: Judge Orders Parent To Spank Child In Courtroom
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Mon 06/09/08 12:38 PM
maybe if someone had disciplined the brat when it counted, there wouldnt be a truancy charge and a 500 dollar fine...too late now. Spanking isnt abuse, disciplining a child isnt abuse its a responsibility you have as a parent.

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Mon 06/09/08 12:48 PM
Why do you think Brawn is more powerfull than your brain? If you cant out smart or out witt at baby/toddler/teenager, than that is where the problem lies! We(humans) have the most devolped brain (at least some of us) this world has ever seen so we might as well use it rather than pulling this neanderthitic crap, "Ah, u know listen, boom, boom". Come on people and use ur brain and find the root of the issue and take care of it by using inttelect. Spanking is like trying to chop a tree down by triming the leaves of the top, its a temporary solution to a permanant issue!


And YES Dan, i think the WORLDS problems lie with Poverty, not knowing if they can eat today or have a safe place to lay there head at night, I personally think the selfesh emotion is the root of all evil, If people were all treated as equal and we came to realize that no one is better than I, than we would see these issues diminish greatly

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Mon 06/09/08 11:19 PM
Edited by dicimus01 on Mon 06/09/08 11:22 PM

maybe if someone had disciplined the brat when it counted, there wouldnt be a truancy charge and a 500 dollar fine...too late now. Spanking isnt abuse, disciplining a child isnt abuse its a responsibility you have as a parent.

Somewhere it was writen "Spare the rod, Hate the child".
But that was to harsh, it was changed to "Spare the rod, spoil the child". Now they throw you in jail if you spank in some places.

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Mon 06/09/08 11:36 PM

maybe if someone had disciplined the brat when it counted, there wouldnt be a truancy charge and a 500 dollar fine...too late now. Spanking isnt abuse, disciplining a child isnt abuse its a responsibility you have as a parent.


Sorry, Sybelmyne, I have to disagree with this. It's abuse to me. I used time out with my child and they turned out just fine.flowerforyou

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Tue 06/10/08 12:14 AM
sick It sounds sicksick I hope this judges head rollsmad

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Tue 06/10/08 05:39 AM
For every action we make, there is either a reward or a consequence.

The judge gave the parents an option, if those parents didnt agree with the spanking they should have chosen the other option, daughter guilty of truancy and face a $500.00 fine.

After the fact they want to say they were forced, no way. noway




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Tue 06/10/08 06:50 AM
Edited by daniel48706 on Tue 06/10/08 06:54 AM


Yes, I know what she meant by it, and I agree that her rules are her rules i her house. Never said I dint, specifically stated that sentiment was right.
But I garuntee you, depending on her state, if spanking is legal there in the state, and she tells a judge spanking is illegal in her house (or against the law), theres a good chance the judge would fine her for contempt, and tell her point blank, no spanking is NOT against the law in your house, as your house does not supercede government laws and regulations.
It does not mean she has to spank, or allow someone else to spank, but she does not dictate what "law" is. Only, what rules are for her house.
The distinction is a matter of attitude.

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Tue 06/10/08 06:52 AM





It's the law in my house.:wink:


no it is the rule[/b[] in your house. you can argue all you want, and you can say anything you want, like (as an example) the law in my house is that nobody can come in even with a search warrant (tyring to sound ridiculous here, yes). But you know as well as I do, that if a cop showed up with a search warrant (not saying he would in your case), then no matter what you claim was law in your house, it would not matter.
Rules are not laws. Some people may treat them as such, but they are not laws.
Laws if not followed can mean jail time, etc. Rules not followed will never mean jail time etc.

Daniel, why are you so defensive and combative, if she wants it to be a law in her house, who are you to say otherwise?




Who I am is someone who hates how people today think they are the law, and that hey have authority when they dont. And the statement "it is law in my house" dictates that they feel they are a legal authority in society, when they are anything but (as afr as I am aware).

The problem is not that I am defensive and combative. The problem is her way in choosing how to represent herself and hwo to talk/respond to others.
You come at me, for example and state you are the "law", and I ma likely to show you just how much "law" you have.

Now, I agree that in her house, her rules apply. That is only right. Please do not misunderstand me there. I do not mean to suggest that she is being intentionally antagonistic, either. But I have a very big issue with proper communication between people, as 9 out of 10 times, most misunderstandings come from miscommunication. All I ask is that someone use proper (and I don't mean grammatically correct either, lol; heaven knows I don't use it) English as much as possible.
Use the proper words for what you are saying. That wya if there is a misunderstanding it is not because you meant one thign and said another, like so many people today do.
huh get a grip dude ...every one knows what she meant!!


You would think so.laugh flowerforyou


And yet I garuntee if she (or 90% of hte rest of people in here and in the world) were to use thephrasing she did in an Emglish course in college she would be failed.
As I stated, my problem is with nothitnking you are the boss of everything, and by stating "law in my house" you are stating that yuo are the law. THERE IS NO LAW IN SOMEONES HOUSE, just rules.
Dop not come off as some arrogant child who thinks they can command anyone at any time and I dont have a problem. And the issue of "law in my...." wherever "my" may be teaches children that they are a law unto themselves, and do not have to listen to authority elsewhere.


Daniel, you are going off the deep end again (just a gentle reminder)

You cannot guarantee anything save how you feel, so please try and be a little nicer in posts. This does not need to be a personal attack yet your responses sound as such. You are entitled to your beliefs and so are the rest of us.

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Tue 06/10/08 06:58 AM
Edited by daniel48706 on Tue 06/10/08 07:00 AM
I am not attacking anyone, and if you scroll up you will see I edited what I wrote, while you were responding.
And your response here is typical. Someone states the legalities and someone else cries foul, or personal attack.
I did not attack winx(?) in any way. I simply stated she doe snot have the legal authority to claim what law is or is not, and ithat if she tried it (or anyone lese for that matter) in court they would be fined for contempt.

And as far as garunteeing anything other than how I feel? ASk a lawyer if what I have stated is true or not. Again depends on the state.

But in ANY state you try telling a judge that your rules are law, and insinuate that your rules supercede staTE LAW, you are asking for trouble.

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Tue 06/10/08 07:00 AM





It's the law in my house.:wink:


no it is the rule[/b[] in your house. you can argue all you want, and you can say anything you want, like (as an example) the law in my house is that nobody can come in even with a search warrant (tyring to sound ridiculous here, yes). But you know as well as I do, that if a cop showed up with a search warrant (not saying he would in your case), then no matter what you claim was law in your house, it would not matter.
Rules are not laws. Some people may treat them as such, but they are not laws.
Laws if not followed can mean jail time, etc. Rules not followed will never mean jail time etc.

Daniel, why are you so defensive and combative, if she wants it to be a law in her house, who are you to say otherwise?




Who I am is someone who hates how people today think they are the law, and that hey have authority when they dont. And the statement "it is law in my house" dictates that they feel they are a legal authority in society, when they are anything but (as afr as I am aware).

The problem is not that I am defensive and combative. The problem is her way in choosing how to represent herself and hwo to talk/respond to others.
You come at me, for example and state you are the "law", and I ma likely to show you just how much "law" you have.

Now, I agree that in her house, her rules apply. That is only right. Please do not misunderstand me there. I do not mean to suggest that she is being intentionally antagonistic, either. But I have a very big issue with proper communication between people, as 9 out of 10 times, most misunderstandings come from miscommunication. All I ask is that someone use proper (and I don't mean grammatically correct either, lol; heaven knows I don't use it) English as much as possible.
Use the proper words for what you are saying. That wya if there is a misunderstanding it is not because you meant one thign and said another, like so many people today do.
huh get a grip dude ...every one knows what she meant!!


You would think so.laugh flowerforyou


And yet I garuntee if she (or 90% of hte rest of people in here and in the world) were to use thephrasing she did in an Emglish course in college she would be failed.
As I stated, my problem is with nothitnking you are the boss of everything, and by stating "law in my house" you are stating that yuo are the law. THERE IS NO LAW IN SOMEONES HOUSE, just rules.
Dop not come off as some arrogant child who thinks they can command anyone at any time and I dont have a problem. And the issue of "law in my...." wherever "my" may be teaches children that they are a law unto themselves, and do not have to listen to authority elsewhere.


Daniel,

You have crossed the line here.explode

You have called me arrogant when you are acting as such. Where do you get off with saying that I think I can command anyone at any time? I don't feel I have to listen to authority anywhere? Dude, you have a problem.

I would fail an English course in college? That's too funny. Daniel, my minor in college was English.

For crying out loud, haven't you ever heard of the expression that one is the boss of their home? Don't you know what a wink means after saying it?

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Tue 06/10/08 07:02 AM
You are funny Daniel, here's some info for you, I am far from typical. (lol:wink:)

You are claiming your beliefs and trying to pass them as legalities. You make comments as to others use and command of the English language and the Legal System. Please share your credentials.

flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Tue 06/10/08 07:03 AM

I am not attacking anyone, and if you scroll up you will see I edited what I wrote, while you were responding.
And your response here is typical. Someone states the legalities and someone else cries foul, or personal attack.
I did not attack winx(?) in any way. I simply stated she doe snot have the legal authority to claim what law is or is not, and ithat if she tried it (or anyone lese for that matter) in court they would be fined for contempt.

And as far as garunteeing anything other than how I feel? ASk a lawyer if what I have stated is true or not. Again depends on the state.

But in ANY state you try telling a judge that your rules are law, and insinuate that your rules supercede staTE LAW, you are asking for trouble.


I read what you said before you edited. You did attack me.
You have crossed the line.mad

franshade's photo
Tue 06/10/08 07:06 AM
Winx I am like you, I am both the King and Queen of my castle :wink:

I make all the "laws" in my house.
flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Tue 06/10/08 07:08 AM

For every action we make, there is either a reward or a consequence.

The judge gave the parents an option, if those parents didnt agree with the spanking they should have chosen the other option, daughter guilty of truancy and face a $500.00 fine.

After the fact they want to say they were forced, no way. noway






Awww...now I see where you are coming from. It's about the lawsuit. I was looking more at the judge's behavior and you were looking at the lawsuit. flowerforyou

Winx's photo
Tue 06/10/08 07:10 AM

Winx I am like you, I am both the King and Queen of my castle :wink:

I make all the "laws" in my house.
flowerforyou


I am both the King and Queen of my castle too.flowerforyou

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Tue 06/10/08 07:12 AM


Winx I am like you, I am both the King and Queen of my castle :wink:

I make all the "laws" in my house.
flowerforyou


I am both the King and Queen of my castle too.flowerforyou


flowerforyou wtggggg Winx flowerforyou

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Tue 06/10/08 07:15 AM

You are funny Daniel, here's some info for you, I am far from typical. (lol:wink:)

You are claiming your beliefs and trying to pass them as legalities. You make comments as to others use and command of the English language and the Legal System. Please share your credentials.

flowerforyou


The only thing I have claimed as a legality, is the fact that you (or me or anyone else) can not step up and state your wishes are law; i.e. "spanking is abuse in my home" If the state deos not define spanking as abuse, then you can not state that it is illegal (abuse is illegal). It is very simple, cut and dry.

As far as my credentials for the English language, it is very simple. I paid attention in high school, to my mother, and to other people in positions above me not only as I grew up, but further on in life. I have been reading since I was three years old, Shakespeare at about hte age of 6. Half the time I turned in a thesis paper in high school (yes in my high school you wrote a thesis paper more than once, and in more than one subject), the school had to forward it to the local college to be graded properly.
so, I may not have a piece of fancy paper stating I studied English in some college or university, but I garuntee you I know the language, and how to use it.

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Tue 06/10/08 07:19 AM
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