Topic: Judge Orders Parent To Spank Child In Courtroom
Drivinmenutz's photo
Sun 06/08/08 06:13 PM
probably....the daughter/stepfather probably wants a piece of the judge's salary. (Not necesarily true, but it is a definite possibility.)

What was the daughter's crime in the first place? And frankly if someone were gonna charge me $500 or spank me i would rather be spanked. I'd probably consider myself luck as well. (Not just cuz im a dirty old man :wink: ) Like i said, it's not like he made the stepdad beat her or something.

BrandonJItaliano's photo
Sun 06/08/08 07:44 PM
The point of the matter is the Judge had no right to inforce his own personal belief on anyone else, he HAS to follow the law, he should be at the bare minimum Dis-barred!

Winx's photo
Sun 06/08/08 07:47 PM

The point of the matter is the Judge had no right to inforce his own personal belief on anyone else, he HAS to follow the law, he should be at the bare minimum Dis-barred!


I agree.

Topsykretts's photo
Sun 06/08/08 07:47 PM
Wow, that's ruthlessness.

warmachine's photo
Sun 06/08/08 07:53 PM

probably....the daughter/stepfather probably wants a piece of the judge's salary. (Not necesarily true, but it is a definite possibility.)

What was the daughter's crime in the first place? And frankly if someone were gonna charge me $500 or spank me i would rather be spanked. I'd probably consider myself luck as well. (Not just cuz im a dirty old man :wink: ) Like i said, it's not like he made the stepdad beat her or something.



Crime of truancy, I believe.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 07:57 PM


The point of the matter is the Judge had no right to inforce his own personal belief on anyone else, he HAS to follow the law, he should be at the bare minimum Dis-barred!


I agree.


Absolutely Not!

Winx's photo
Sun 06/08/08 07:57 PM



The point of the matter is the Judge had no right to inforce his own personal belief on anyone else, he HAS to follow the law, he should be at the bare minimum Dis-barred!


I agree.


Absolutely Not!


Why, Fanta?flowerforyou

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:11 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sun 06/08/08 08:12 PM




The point of the matter is the Judge had no right to inforce his own personal belief on anyone else, he HAS to follow the law, he should be at the bare minimum Dis-barred!


I agree.


Absolutely Not!




Why, Fanta?flowerforyou



No judge has a right to tell any parent how to discipline their child. He was way out of bounds!

Winx's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:18 PM





The point of the matter is the Judge had no right to inforce his own personal belief on anyone else, he HAS to follow the law, he should be at the bare minimum Dis-barred!


I agree.


Absolutely Not!




Why, Fanta?flowerforyou



No judge has a right to tell any parent how to discipline their child. He was way out of bounds!



Oh, I thought that you were saying that you didn't agree that the judge should be punished - like being disbarred.

Fanta46's photo
Sun 06/08/08 08:24 PM
No,,,,,noway noway flowerforyou

daniel48706's photo
Mon 06/09/08 12:19 AM


Judge Orders Parent To Spank Child In Courtroom - Lawsuit Filed

KGBT4:

BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS (AP) � A Los Fresnos family is going to court to prevent a Cameron County justice of the peace from ordering spankings in his courtroom.

A lawsuit filed today alleges Justice of the Peace Gustavo �Gus� Garza told a 14-year-old girl�s stepfather to strike her repeatedly on the buttocks in open court.

If he didn�t, the judge said the girl would be found guilty and fined $500 for truancy.

The lawsuit by Mary Vasquez and her husband, Daniel Zurita, described the paddle provided by Garza as large and heavy and fashioned from a thick piece of lumber.

In an affidavit, Zurita says that when he was through, the judge told him he had not struck the girl hard enough.


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Now the question:Does a judge have the right to order a parent to repeatedly paddle their child � at home or right in the courtroom?

At 14 ,a person should know what is right and what is wrong .
The sad question is how to make some sense in a 14 year old person who is like a wall and listens to nobody .


Sorry I did not see the age of the girl in question when I first read the article. No she should NOT have been spanked in court or at home. SHe should have been punished just like any other person would have been in court, as she is more than old enough to knw what she did was wrong.

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Mon 06/09/08 12:20 AM

I whole heartedly disagree, That judge should be dis-barred and thrown in prison, A judge is not to be implimenting his own personal beliefs from the bench, that is not what that position is 4!! I dont see much difference between that judge orcastrating the physical abuse of that child and Warren Jeffs Orcastrating the sexual abuse of those young girls. They both have no place in this free world


I dont know about Oklahoma, where you are from, but I can telly ou that in michigan, spanking is not abuse, and that is court declared. So please, you may feel spanking is abuse, but by law (again different states, different laws) spanking is not abuse. So do nto state it is definitevely abuse.

daniel48706's photo
Mon 06/09/08 12:22 AM

This world does have its flaws(in my opinion, POVERTY is the root cause of most if not all of those issues) but no one has the right to FORCE there own personal beliefs on anyone else EVER.


I survived off of 7700 dollars last year (that was what I filed on my taxes). Needlesss to say I qualify as impoverished. Are you trying to say that it is my fault (because I am poor) that the United States ahas the problems it has? Or the world in general?

Winx's photo
Mon 06/09/08 08:56 AM


I whole heartedly disagree, That judge should be dis-barred and thrown in prison, A judge is not to be implimenting his own personal beliefs from the bench, that is not what that position is 4!! I dont see much difference between that judge orcastrating the physical abuse of that child and Warren Jeffs Orcastrating the sexual abuse of those young girls. They both have no place in this free world


I dont know about Oklahoma, where you are from, but I can telly ou that in michigan, spanking is not abuse, and that is court declared. So please, you may feel spanking is abuse, but by law (again different states, different laws) spanking is not abuse. So do nto state it is definitevely abuse.


In my house, spanking is abuse.

daniel48706's photo
Mon 06/09/08 09:00 AM



I whole heartedly disagree, That judge should be dis-barred and thrown in prison, A judge is not to be implimenting his own personal beliefs from the bench, that is not what that position is 4!! I dont see much difference between that judge orcastrating the physical abuse of that child and Warren Jeffs Orcastrating the sexual abuse of those young girls. They both have no place in this free world


I dont know about Oklahoma, where you are from, but I can telly ou that in michigan, spanking is not abuse, and that is court declared. So please, you may feel spanking is abuse, but by law (again different states, different laws) spanking is not abuse. So do nto state it is definitevely abuse.


In my house, spanking is abuse.


Your house does not decide the law.

franshade's photo
Mon 06/09/08 09:23 AM

Judge Orders Parent To Spank Child In Courtroom - Lawsuit Filed

KGBT4:

BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS (AP) � A Los Fresnos family is going to court to prevent a Cameron County justice of the peace from ordering spankings in his courtroom.

A lawsuit filed today alleges Justice of the Peace Gustavo �Gus� Garza told a 14-year-old girl�s stepfather to strike her repeatedly on the buttocks in open court.

If he didn�t, the judge said the girl would be found guilty and fined $500 for truancy.

The lawsuit by Mary Vasquez and her husband, Daniel Zurita, described the paddle provided by Garza as large and heavy and fashioned from a thick piece of lumber.

In an affidavit, Zurita says that when he was through, the judge told him he had not struck the girl hard enough.


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Now the question:Does a judge have the right to order a parent to repeatedly paddle their child � at home or right in the courtroom?



The parents were 'offered' a choice, either spank your child or your child will be found guilty of truancy and pay $500.00 fine.


They chose to spank, it was not mandatory. laugh

Winx's photo
Mon 06/09/08 09:23 AM




I whole heartedly disagree, That judge should be dis-barred and thrown in prison, A judge is not to be implimenting his own personal beliefs from the bench, that is not what that position is 4!! I dont see much difference between that judge orcastrating the physical abuse of that child and Warren Jeffs Orcastrating the sexual abuse of those young girls. They both have no place in this free world


I dont know about Oklahoma, where you are from, but I can telly ou that in michigan, spanking is not abuse, and that is court declared. So please, you may feel spanking is abuse, but by law (again different states, different laws) spanking is not abuse. So do nto state it is definitevely abuse.


In my house, spanking is abuse.


Your house does not decide the law.


It's the law in my house.:wink:

Winx's photo
Mon 06/09/08 09:25 AM
Edited by Winx on Mon 06/09/08 09:28 AM


Judge Orders Parent To Spank Child In Courtroom - Lawsuit Filed

KGBT4:

BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS (AP) � A Los Fresnos family is going to court to prevent a Cameron County justice of the peace from ordering spankings in his courtroom.

A lawsuit filed today alleges Justice of the Peace Gustavo �Gus� Garza told a 14-year-old girl�s stepfather to strike her repeatedly on the buttocks in open court.

If he didn�t, the judge said the girl would be found guilty and fined $500 for truancy.

The lawsuit by Mary Vasquez and her husband, Daniel Zurita, described the paddle provided by Garza as large and heavy and fashioned from a thick piece of lumber.

In an affidavit, Zurita says that when he was through, the judge told him he had not struck the girl hard enough.


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Now the question:Does a judge have the right to order a parent to repeatedly paddle their child � at home or right in the courtroom?



The parents were 'offered' a choice, either spank your child or your child will be found guilty of truancy and pay $500.00 fine.


They chose to spank, it was not mandatory. laugh



Fran, you are right. But...can you imagine the problem they had if they didn't have the $500? They should have never been put in that position.

I have a feeling that I may have bust out laughing when the judge said that.laugh



RoamingOrator's photo
Mon 06/09/08 09:33 AM
I will stick up for the judge in this matter. Spanking a child of 14 years is not a wrong action. Especially when it is just for skipping school (Truancy). If someone would have paddled that girls butt before she got picked up for skipping, she might not have needed it in a courtroom. A little humiliation is good for a person. It teaches humility, a trait long lost on the younger generation. Guess what, you aren't all that and a bag of chips.

Corporal punishment was good enough for me, probably didn't get as much as I should have when I was a kid.

franshade's photo
Mon 06/09/08 09:39 AM



Judge Orders Parent To Spank Child In Courtroom - Lawsuit Filed

KGBT4:

BROWNSVILLE, TEXAS (AP) � A Los Fresnos family is going to court to prevent a Cameron County justice of the peace from ordering spankings in his courtroom.

A lawsuit filed today alleges Justice of the Peace Gustavo �Gus� Garza told a 14-year-old girl�s stepfather to strike her repeatedly on the buttocks in open court.

If he didn�t, the judge said the girl would be found guilty and fined $500 for truancy.

The lawsuit by Mary Vasquez and her husband, Daniel Zurita, described the paddle provided by Garza as large and heavy and fashioned from a thick piece of lumber.

In an affidavit, Zurita says that when he was through, the judge told him he had not struck the girl hard enough.


-------------------------------------------

Now the question:Does a judge have the right to order a parent to repeatedly paddle their child � at home or right in the courtroom?



The parents were 'offered' a choice, either spank your child or your child will be found guilty of truancy and pay $500.00 fine.


They chose to spank, it was not mandatory. laugh



Fran, you are right. But...can you imagine the problem they had if they didn't have the $500? They should have never been put in that position.

I have a feeling that I may have bust out laughing when the judge said that.laugh


I see nothing wrong with the ruling, a choice was given.

Whether parents had the $500.00 or not, truly doesnt matter to me. All of us parents are responsible for our childrens actions until they reach legal age. We must repay, repair etc., things that our children break (regardless whether on purpose or accident).

So I see nothing wrong, choice was given - parents chose to spank.