"FAITH???" - hmmm never thought i'd hear you say that - faith in something?? what a concept - do you believe one could build a religion out of that ??

I have more faith than most people I know .

"Faith in what?" you might ask....

I have faith in all that is and how it works. It is a faith in the laws set forth in this holographic matrix we live in.

The laws are exact. They work for everyone, no matter who they are or what they chose to believe.

I have faith in myself.... my higher self... and the self above that and above that.

I am eternal.

I am.

I have faith in that.

thats not true sam.not all would have done what those people did and i was shocked to see such ignorance and callousness.Many people give of themselves and put their lives on the line daily for others.cops,firemen,medical personell ,volunteers etc.
i know you are cynical but I feel there is a lot of good in the human race.

You can have faith in things that are not religious in nature. All it is trusting in something so it doesn't surprise me to hear JB say that. :-)

And I do believe that she could form a religion out of it if she chose to. She is already a priestess of her own church. I wanted to join but I guess it's a one person thing.

I'm sorry Jeannie. I can't remember what your official title is or what the church is called. What is it you are a priestess of again? I know I have seen it several times I just can't remember.

sorry Rathil - i was making a joke - not meant to be serious

everyone has faith i understand that - faith there car will start when they turn the key, faith when they go to bed at night they will wake up the next day, there are all kinds of faith that we faithfully take for granted, forgive my humor.

I am ordained by the original Universal Life Church. Anyone can get ordained with a few clicks of the mouse. It is a legal ordination. My church is not incorporated. I have one official member. (Me.)

I do have an unofficial congregation of four women. We meet on Wednesday nights and do readings, both psychic and tarot cards.

My title is: The High Priestess of The Universal Life Church of Brutal Truth and Honesty.

My self made directives are:

1.) Do what is right.
2.) Speak the truth as you know and understand it.

Jeannie

ok - well it seems were getting back into discussions here i will leve the post open for a while as of now there have been 11 answer poitively - thats for you cherub - you can go look at the list ok ? maybe more will chime in by tomorrow - if not - i will go on to the next question - thnx to everty one who's responded so far - much appreciated

i agree that man is capable of doing "good" things and acting morally on his own and even being able to rise to the status put on some as "hero"? But just the same if you look at man;s core he by nature is a selfish creature - also capable of doing the most vile thing's in the name of good and right, dont have to look far to find that - just look at the daily news. Man is capable of rising to the present need but lives most of his life in a selfish manner.

T.he U.niversal L.life C.hurch O.f B.rutal T.ruth A.nd H.onesty??

""""TULCOBTAH"""

hi priestess of TULCOBTAH!!
a tulcobtahist huh?? hmmmmm????

i guess ill have to get my humaness out agian and see if i can find predjudice againt that


joke
joke
joke - rathil

Thanks Jeannie. I am going to have to write that down so I can remember. I knew it was a long title!

Also I apologize Tribo. LOL! Guess I didn't catch the original joke. So hard to do sometimes online! Have a good day man!

Loving your neighbour as yourself is agianst human nature where selfishnes and greed are supreme .

hahahaha i'll make sure i let everyone know in the future when i'm being sarcastic or funny Rathil - you to

Once Involved;
Yes

No Longer believe;
it has evolved

Practice said religon
not formally

Eh, the problem is you are talking in absolutes here. Really when it comes down to it it depends on the situation you are in. For example, My best friend, I would take a bullet for that man and I am relatively sure he would try to do the same. Although no, I would not step in front of a bullet to save a complete stranger. I would probably try to help them if they were still alive afterwards and the chances of me being shot myself were removed.

Does that make me selfish? Probably. I am sure I could make an argument for it either way. Although I do disagree with you when you say everybody is like that. I have met people before that would lay down their lives for a stranger just because that is the type of person they are. Whether they were raised that way or whether they just have a higher sense of morality then some people.

Don't get me wrong, I am a big promoter of doing the right thing but I am also a big promoter of self preservation. I weigh the options of my chance of injury versus doing something to help a stranger. For example if I am in a bank that is being robbed. If I feel that they are just going to take the money and leave, I am going to sit there. Give them my money and wish them a good day on their way out. If they are more unstable and it seems like regardless of what happens they are going to start shooting folks I would take whatever actions I felt necessary to try to stop them. In that situation I already feel I am going to be killed. So if I try to stop them two things will happen. Either I will be successful and save a bunch of people or I will be shot and killed anyway.

Anyway, cliffnote version is that the way people act and behave is not absolute. You can't say that nobody feels that way just because you don't. There will always be people that will put the lives of others before their own for whatever reasons.

I guess you know everybody on earth and what they are capable of then?

Are you an all knowing god?

I am saying it very loud and very clear : love your neighbour as you love yourself is just a piece of crap with no logic and against human nature .

No one loves his neighbour like he loves himself : it is human
nature . It is against logic and reality . Look to the world around you .

I never did think of it as a law.

Think of it more as a suggestion.

Personally I wish my neighbor would move to another city. Her kids are always screaming and throwing things in my yard and her dog is alway yapping.

Maybe if I had another neighbor. Some really good looking dude who liked to lay out and sun bath in a speedo.... hummm

Yeh I could love that.

I think if we could get people to really love themselves more that would be a start.

You can't love others if you hate yourself. It is hard to love humanity if you think of them as the scum of the earth too.

Its all just an opinion anyway. No you can't love your neighbor as you do yourself until you become a pantheist and realize that your neighbor is you in another life time.

Jeannie