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I think I�m going to be sick:
Many juniors and seniors were driven to tears � a few to near hysterics � May 26 when a uniformed police officer arrived in several classrooms to notify them that a fellow student had been killed in a drunken-driving accident. The officer read a brief eulogy, placed a rose on the deceased student�s seat, then left the class members to process their thoughts and emotions for the next hour. The program, titled �Every 15 Minutes,� was designed by Mothers Against Drunk Driving. Its title refers to the frequency in which a person somewhere in the country dies in an alcohol-related traffic accident. About 10 a.m., students were called to the athletic stadium, where they learned that their classmates had not died. There, a group of seniors, police officers and firefighters staged a startlingly realistic alcohol-induced fatal car crash. The students who had purportedly died portrayed ghostly apparitions encircling the scene. Though the deception left some teens temporarily confused and angry, if it makes even one student think twice before getting behind the wheel of a car while intoxicated, it is worth the price, said California Highway Patrol Officer Eric Newbury, who orchestrates the program at local high schools. What the hell is wrong with these people? http://www.theagitator.com/2008/05/31/absolute-maddness/ |
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Harsh=effective......but i agree with you
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even so, there is a line you cross when going to extremes like that
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even so, there is a line you cross when going to extremes like that
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warning and advising student/ teens is one thing but to purposely set up friends of those students and create an environment which students are being deceived and lied to is wrong
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Well it make be dranconian but if it scares enough kids to not drink or drive under the influence...so be it!
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Well it make be dranconian but if it scares enough kids to not drink or drive under the influence...so be it! There are times where the ends most definitely do not justify the means. They terrorized these kids just to get a message out? You don't have to strap a bomb to yourself to be a terrorist. |
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I don't see anything wrong with it. Too many kids are getting behind the wheel drunk. And if that's a way to get them to stop, then by all means.
I think, that if it gets at least one kid to stop and think, then that's at least one life saved. |
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Edited by
MsCarmen
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Mon 06/02/08 02:59 PM
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Well it make be dranconian but if it scares enough kids to not drink or drive under the influence...so be it! There are times where the ends most definitely do not justify the means. They terrorized these kids just to get a message out? You don't have to strap a bomb to yourself to be a terrorist. War, I took the liberty of looking up some statistics for you. The sad part of these statistics is they are 8 years old, but I'm sure the numbers haven't dropped by all that much. nearly 80% of high school seniors admit to at least trying an alcoholic drink.
According to a 1999 study conducted by the Pacific Institute on Research and Evaluation (PIRE), about 3,500 deaths per year are caused by drinkers under the age of 21. Underage drinkers consume nearly 3.6 billion drinks a year - 10 million every day - according to a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services study. there were 3,518 collisions in California involving drivers under the age of 21 who were under the influence. In these collisions, 100 of the drivers were killed and 130 victims (other than the drivers) were killed. (California Highway Patrol Fact Sheet, 2000) We are trying to convince these kids that drunk driving kills, and if telling them doesn't get the point across, then maybe this action will. |
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Well it make be dranconian but if it scares enough kids to not drink or drive under the influence...so be it! There are times where the ends most definitely do not justify the means. They terrorized these kids just to get a message out? You don't have to strap a bomb to yourself to be a terrorist. War, I took the liberty of looking up some statistics for you. The sad part of these statistics is they are 8 years old, but I'm sure the numbers haven't dropped by all that much. nearly 80% of high school seniors admit to at least trying an alcoholic drink.
According to a 1999 study conducted by the Pacific Institute on Research and Evaluation (PIRE), about 3,500 deaths per year are caused by drinkers under the age of 21. Underage drinkers consume nearly 3.6 billion drinks a year - 10 million every day - according to a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services study. there were 3,518 collisions in California involving drivers under the age of 21 who were under the influence. In these collisions, 100 of the drivers were killed and 130 victims (other than the drivers) were killed. (California Highway Patrol Fact Sheet, 2000) We are trying to convince these kids that drunk driving kills, and if telling them doesn't get the point across, then maybe this action will. I don't know. I don't know how much this action will get through to them. Had my school done something like that I would have been too blinded by rage at the deception to give them the time of day at that point. I will never understand how people think that lies and deception are the way to a better tomorrow. Just think of the agony and grief that they put the friends of those students through because they were trying to get a point across. Shame on them. |
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Well it make be dranconian but if it scares enough kids to not drink or drive under the influence...so be it! There are times where the ends most definitely do not justify the means. They terrorized these kids just to get a message out? You don't have to strap a bomb to yourself to be a terrorist. War, I took the liberty of looking up some statistics for you. The sad part of these statistics is they are 8 years old, but I'm sure the numbers haven't dropped by all that much. nearly 80% of high school seniors admit to at least trying an alcoholic drink.
According to a 1999 study conducted by the Pacific Institute on Research and Evaluation (PIRE), about 3,500 deaths per year are caused by drinkers under the age of 21. Underage drinkers consume nearly 3.6 billion drinks a year - 10 million every day - according to a U.S. Department of Health and Human Services study. there were 3,518 collisions in California involving drivers under the age of 21 who were under the influence. In these collisions, 100 of the drivers were killed and 130 victims (other than the drivers) were killed. (California Highway Patrol Fact Sheet, 2000) We are trying to convince these kids that drunk driving kills, and if telling them doesn't get the point across, then maybe this action will. I don't know. I don't know how much this action will get through to them. Had my school done something like that I would have been too blinded by rage at the deception to give them the time of day at that point. I will never understand how people think that lies and deception are the way to a better tomorrow. Just think of the agony and grief that they put the friends of those students through because they were trying to get a point across. Shame on them. To add to this, I think we're all aware that most Teenagers aren't exactly prone to rational thinking, several things, 1( When you tell a teenager that they absolutley aren't allowed to do something, alot of them tend to go try it. 2( When you traumatize a teenager, they do not tend to step back and think about these things with the clarity needed to get past the emotion and think: "yeah, Drunk Driving is bad", most teenagers I know will instead move towards the "I'll show you A-holes" mentality. I do not have a problem with the message, drunk driving is bad, but I have huge issues with the method of delivering the message. |
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Teachers have lost their minds!
Remember this, TEACHERS at a Tennessee school who staged a mock attack by a gunman on a school trip left children crying under tables in dark room thinking they were going to die. The mock attack last Thursday night was meant to be a "learning experience and lasted five minutes" during a week-long trip to a state park, said Scales Elementary School assistant principal Don Bartch, who led the trip. "We got together and discussed what we would have done in a real situation," he said. On the last night of the trip, the teachers told the 69 students there was a gunman on the loose. They were told to lie on the floor or hide under tables and stay quiet. A teacher, disguised in a hooded sweatshirt, even pulled on a locked door, the Associated Press reported. When the lights went out, about 20 children began crying, said 11-year-old Shay Naylor. "At first I thought I was going to die. We flipped out," she said. Parents of the children, who were all about 11 years old, were outraged over the drill- especially as it came in the wake of the Virginia Tech shooting. "The children were in that room in the dark, begging for their lives, because they thought there was someone with a gun after them," said Brandy Cole, whose son went on the trip. School principal Catherine Stephens said the situation "involved poor judgment" but would not say whether the staff would face discipline. |
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The assistant Principal later said it was meant as an educational tool!!
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Teachers have lost their minds! Remember this, TEACHERS at a Tennessee school who staged a mock attack by a gunman on a school trip left children crying under tables in dark room thinking they were going to die. The mock attack last Thursday night was meant to be a "learning experience and lasted five minutes" during a week-long trip to a state park, said Scales Elementary School assistant principal Don Bartch, who led the trip. "We got together and discussed what we would have done in a real situation," he said. On the last night of the trip, the teachers told the 69 students there was a gunman on the loose. They were told to lie on the floor or hide under tables and stay quiet. A teacher, disguised in a hooded sweatshirt, even pulled on a locked door, the Associated Press reported. When the lights went out, about 20 children began crying, said 11-year-old Shay Naylor. "At first I thought I was going to die. We flipped out," she said. Parents of the children, who were all about 11 years old, were outraged over the drill- especially as it came in the wake of the Virginia Tech shooting. "The children were in that room in the dark, begging for their lives, because they thought there was someone with a gun after them," said Brandy Cole, whose son went on the trip. School principal Catherine Stephens said the situation "involved poor judgment" but would not say whether the staff would face discipline. Train those young minds for a police state, man alive, I would sue every adult that came within eye shot of my child if they did that to him and I don't have kids yet. |
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omg i would so sue..
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This article tells more
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/244343/school_pulls_fake_gun_attack_on_sixth.html |
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They did that at our school when i was going there, and i saw no harm in it. I still don't for that matter. Its shocking enough to get students to pay attention and wake up after a long boring speech about how Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo still haunts the USA to this day.
I'm happy to hear that the community got together to show those kids that they aren't invincible and can die in a car crash while drunk. ![]() |
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warning and advising student/ teens is one thing but to purposely set up friends of those students and create an environment which students are being deceived and lied to is wrong ![]() ![]() ![]() I could not agree more. There is, as you say, a fine line that these people have crossed. I helped set up the first S.A.D.D. AND M.A.D.D. groups at my highschool, al;most twenty years agoi. We staged accident scenes and such, brought in cars that were left over from alchohol related accidents (one of which WAS the car of a student we lost to alchohol), yet we NEVER even considered staging deaths. There was enough grief and shock just from the cars and such; especially the one that belonged to a fellow student (it was barely recognizable as his, only because of the paint job he had just ut on it a month prior). Pesonally these people need to rethink what they are doing and tone it down just abit so as not to traumatize theese poor students any further. |
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Well it make be dranconian but if it scares enough kids to not drink or drive under the influence...so be it! There are times where the ends most definitely do not justify the means. They terrorized these kids just to get a message out? You don't have to strap a bomb to yourself to be a terrorist. Ever heard of SCARED STRAIGHT? Tell to those hard core prisoners who never had anyone to show them the way. |
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