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Topic: Conservative Rhetoric!
Lindyy Joined Tue 01/01/08 Posts: 2699	Fri 05/09/08 10:00 AM
OOPS, thanks for pointing this out, I was in the wrong thread. I will move it to the "President Bush's Mistakes." Lindyy

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 05/09/08 10:03 AM
OOPS, thanks for pointing this out, I was in the wrong thread. I will move it to the "President Bush's Mistakes." Lindyy Dont go Lindy address this, added a grab-bag of measures Bush has sought. That's Bush Pork...

Lindyy Joined Tue 01/01/08 Posts: 2699	Fri 05/09/08 10:05 AM
Im glad you're trying to learn Politics Lindy.. I see you've already mastered the copy and paste technique! Why Fanta, dear, I learned from the BEST, those on this website!!!

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 05/09/08 10:06 AM
Pork works both ways... We know the Pubes would never add any.. Show me the Pork................ And then show me something besides print worthless paper that the Pubes have done for the economic crisis...

symbelmyne Joined Mon 01/14/08 Posts: 5356	Fri 05/09/08 11:55 AM
Im glad you're trying to learn Politics Lindy.. I see you've already mastered the copy and paste technique! Why Fanta, dear, I learned from the BEST, those on this website!!! wow!! did you just give Madisonman a compliment Lindyy???

gardenforge Joined Tue 01/16/07 Posts: 1322	Fri 05/09/08 12:37 PM
Back to the original idea of this thread. Why is it that every time a bunch of people do something incredibly stupid and get their ass in a bind they think it is the government's responsibility to bail them out. These people took out loans with escalation clauses in them knowing full well they couldn't make the payments when the rate went up. They gambled that the real estate market would go up and they would be able to use their equity to qualify for a conventional loan. Then the market took a downturn and they were caught short and can't pay up. How the hell is that the government's fault. There is a saying on Wall Street "Bears make Money, Bulls make money and Pigs get slaughtered" If you are stupid enough to bet hogish, you deserve to end up as sausage.

Lindyy Joined Tue 01/01/08 Posts: 2699	Fri 05/09/08 01:00 PM
Why Fanta, dear, I learned from the BEST, those on this website!!! wow!! did you just give Madisonman a compliment Lindyy??? UGGGGG. I did. OMG, the end of the world is coming. Lindyy

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 05/09/08 01:00 PM
Back to the original idea of this thread. Why is it that every time a bunch of people do something incredibly stupid and get their ass in a bind they think it is the government's responsibility to bail them out. These people took out loans with escalation clauses in them knowing full well they couldn't make the payments when the rate went up. They gambled that the real estate market would go up and they would be able to use their equity to qualify for a conventional loan. Then the market took a downturn and they were caught short and can't pay up. How the hell is that the government's fault. There is a saying on Wall Street "Bears make Money, Bulls make money and Pigs get slaughtered" If you are stupid enough to bet hogish, you deserve to end up as sausage. If you tangle a carrot in front of a horse he will follow it forge.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Fri 05/09/08 02:46 PM
Back to the original idea of this thread. Why is it that every time a bunch of people do something incredibly stupid and get their ass in a bind they think it is the government's responsibility to bail them out. These people took out loans with escalation clauses in them knowing full well they couldn't make the payments when the rate went up. They gambled that the real estate market would go up and they would be able to use their equity to qualify for a conventional loan. Then the market took a downturn and they were caught short and can't pay up. How the hell is that the government's fault. There is a saying on Wall Street "Bears make Money, Bulls make money and Pigs get slaughtered" If you are stupid enough to bet hogish, you deserve to end up as sausage. If you tangle a carrot in front of a horse he will follow it forge. True, be we are humans not horses. We have the capacity to make proper decisions and not just run on our hierarchy of needs.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Fri 05/09/08 02:54 PM Edited by Fanta46 on Fri 05/09/08 02:55 PM
We also have an obligation to act humane. Not taking advantage of others naivety, or poke at them when they fail, due to others taking advantage of the difference in education. I'll agree with you, if they prosecute every savings and loan and lender that made these shady loans thus robbing the tax-payers of the money used to bail them out now that their shady mortgages have collapsed. Do you have any idea of the ramifications of all these mortgage defaults, or are you just blowing smoke out your arse??? Someone has to pay whether these families lose their homes or not.

Chazster Joined Tue 08/28/07 Posts: 6206	Fri 05/09/08 07:00 PM
No, if noone pays then the banks lose money. If that starts to happen then the banks will stop giving out these types of loans.

mnhiker Joined Wed 02/14/07 Posts: 3771	Mon 05/12/08 04:45 PM
Good news, The House approved a housing rescue plan today by a vote of 266-154, with 39 Republicans! Now Master Bush the mighty and wise President promises a Veto. This bill would drop some peoples monthly mortgage payments from $2200 a month to $1200, and without doing the math (I have no idea) could possibly put more money back into the economy than all Bushes tax rebates, (which is just printed money) and put confidence into a shell shocked public! I keep hearing from the Republicans how it is the Democrats fault that the economy is failing. Well here it is the proof that Bush and the Republicans are tying their hands, making it impossible for them to do anything. My prediction- Bush will Veto, and then the House, with only a slim majority, will not be able to muster enough votes to override the Veto. Then later the Republicans will come out and say, The Democrats have a majority and still do nothing. Its their fault, why blame Bush and the Republicans!! What do you think? Please feel free to cuss me. I'll just laugh......... The Republicans when they were in Congress were the most lazy, do-nothing Congress there ever was.

Fanta46 Joined Sat 11/11/06 Posts: 29361	Mon 05/12/08 05:13 PM
Good news, The House approved a housing rescue plan today by a vote of 266-154, with 39 Republicans! Now Master Bush the mighty and wise President promises a Veto. This bill would drop some peoples monthly mortgage payments from $2200 a month to $1200, and without doing the math (I have no idea) could possibly put more money back into the economy than all Bushes tax rebates, (which is just printed money) and put confidence into a shell shocked public! I keep hearing from the Republicans how it is the Democrats fault that the economy is failing. Well here it is the proof that Bush and the Republicans are tying their hands, making it impossible for them to do anything. My prediction- Bush will Veto, and then the House, with only a slim majority, will not be able to muster enough votes to override the Veto. Then later the Republicans will come out and say, The Democrats have a majority and still do nothing. Its their fault, why blame Bush and the Republicans!! What do you think? Please feel free to cuss me. I'll just laugh......... The Republicans when they were in Congress were the most lazy, do-nothing Congress there ever was. And now they spend their time insuring the Dems cant do anything!!!

mnhiker Joined Wed 02/14/07 Posts: 3771	Mon 05/12/08 05:15 PM Edited by mnhiker on Mon 05/12/08 05:16 PM
Good news, The House approved a housing rescue plan today by a vote of 266-154, with 39 Republicans! Now Master Bush the mighty and wise President promises a Veto. This bill would drop some peoples monthly mortgage payments from $2200 a month to $1200, and without doing the math (I have no idea) could possibly put more money back into the economy than all Bushes tax rebates, (which is just printed money) and put confidence into a shell shocked public! I keep hearing from the Republicans how it is the Democrats fault that the economy is failing. Well here it is the proof that Bush and the Republicans are tying their hands, making it impossible for them to do anything. My prediction- Bush will Veto, and then the House, with only a slim majority, will not be able to muster enough votes to override the Veto. Then later the Republicans will come out and say, The Democrats have a majority and still do nothing. Its their fault, why blame Bush and the Republicans!! What do you think? Please feel free to cuss me. I'll just laugh......... The Republicans when they were in Congress were the most lazy, do-nothing Congress there ever was. And now they spend their time insuring the Dems cant do anything!!! No argument here.

Goodwill33 Joined Sat 03/22/08 Posts: 4	Tue 05/13/08 03:05 PM
I think the main problem that still stands after a rescue plan and a stimulis package. Is that most americans cannot aford to live the lifestyles that are parents/grandparents did. Everything is going up in prices,but wages for most people are still way behind inflation costs. Fortunatelty for us...Barack obama is coming into power very soon,and he will have a democratic Congress to work with. Let's hope the Dems mean to do what they say they will......"The Audacity of Hope"....lol

symbelmyne Joined Mon 01/14/08 Posts: 5356	Tue 05/13/08 03:11 PM
I think the main problem that still stands after a rescue plan and a stimulis package. Is that most americans cannot aford to live the lifestyles that are parents/grandparents did. Everything is going up in prices,but wages for most people are still way behind inflation costs. My parents were immigrants with nothing more than a 6th grade education, yet were able to afford houses, a new car every two years, an RV and enjoy the "middle-class American life-style" that attracts so many to the USA. I, with my college education, 17/hr job, was never able to live that life...There is something beyond higher salaries that is required to "fix" the problems that plauge the US today....