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I got in trouble on here yesterday.
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Edited by
hikerchick
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Fri 05/02/08 05:07 AM
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It seems to me that there is a disadvantage to being too honest. Some people mistake your honesty for hostility, for one thing. Other people have carefully crafted lies that they live with and they resent the intrusion of your logic. On the other hand, there are some people who act very sweet and nice but when you don't agree with them, they get testy. When you do try to discuss things on their merits, they call you names and imply that you are just being nasty. Do you think it is better to be honest or to sugar-coat things with lies? I very much want honesty and as soon as possible, so that I can make choices for my well-being and sanity, make level-headed choices. After having been with a compulsive liar in my life years ago, I am extremely inquisitive and will not tolerate lies. I'd rather hear an ugly truth than unearth a lie later. Better to know ASAP. Somehow I can't see you as a compulsive liar. I was ready to give you my PIN! Just re-read. You were WITH a compulsive liar. I get it now. |
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This is exactly what I expected - only the sane ones are responding to this thread. now you made my day, a little after 8am and you think I'm sane... lol try me back in a few hours... lmaooooooo thanks |
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It seems to me that there is a disadvantage to being too honest. Some people mistake your honesty for hostility, for one thing. Other people have carefully crafted lies that they live with and they resent the intrusion of your logic. On the other hand, there are some people who act very sweet and nice but when you don't agree with them, they get testy. When you do try to discuss things on their merits, they call you names and imply that you are just being nasty. Do you think it is better to be honest or to sugar-coat things with lies? I very much want honesty and as soon as possible, so that I can make choices for my well-being and sanity, make level-headed choices. After having been with a compulsive liar in my life years ago, I am extremely inquisitive and will not tolerate lies. I'd rather hear an ugly truth than unearth a lie later. Better to know ASAP. |
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This is exactly what I expected - only the sane ones are responding to this thread. honey, the crazy ones don't know they are crazy. |
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I got in trouble on here yesterday. what was your crime? |
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It seems to me that there is a disadvantage to being too honest. Some people mistake your honesty for hostility, for one thing. Other people have carefully crafted lies that they live with and they resent the intrusion of your logic. On the other hand, there are some people who act very sweet and nice but when you don't agree with them, they get testy. When you do try to discuss things on their merits, they call you names and imply that you are just being nasty. Do you think it is better to be honest or to sugar-coat things with lies? I agree with shooting straight Hiker. People in the 'industry' I network with, know me for telling them staight up like it is. They know if they need to hear the 'real' they talk to me. I say it like it is. BUT, I've also been 'encouraged' lol by those in high places to be sure I soften it with GRACE. That's hard for me sometimes, but I've tried to be sure I don't mow someone down with my 'truth'. As to not agreeing with someone & then turning on them if you don't, well that's just being bigoted. I know sometimes you and I take a slightly different path, & I won't say at times that may not be irritating if I feel I'm not being understood, but I respect your opinion and think you are a good person underneath it all. So, not sugarcoated but not heartless & cold either. The truth can certainly be served with kindness. That's my .02 anyway 
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. Do you think it is better to be honest or to sugar-coat things with lies? I very much want honesty and as soon as possible, so that I can make choices for my well-being and sanity, make level-headed choices. After having been with a compulsive liar in my life years ago, I am extremely inquisitive and will not tolerate lies. I'd rather hear an ugly truth than unearth a lie later. Better to know ASAP. Somehow I can't see you as a compulsive liar. I was ready to give you my PIN! Silly, I am not the compulsive liar. My ex-husband was!! Actually, he still is........ 
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I got in trouble on here yesterday. what was your crime? |
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You are right, Fran. That is what I am seeing. And some people get overtly hostile if you don't agree. They should have a disclaimer for threads "Only those who agree may post" hmmm wonder where I have heard that, but it very appropriate in this setting. People want to post questions but already have the answer for you, WTF!!! lmao 
Feel free to agree to disagree with me Hiker and be as blunt as you want, I will not melt nor wither and die. The truth shall always prevail 
I have lots of friends on here, Fran, and we don't always agree. We have butted heads on different issues but we respected the other's right to have a different opinion. That is all I ask. I can disagree with you and still love you to death. |
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Do you think it is better to be honest or to sugar-coat things with lies? I very much want honesty and as soon as possible, so that I can make choices for my well-being and sanity, make level-headed choices. After having been with a compulsive liar in my life years ago, I am extremely inquisitive and will not tolerate lies. I'd rather hear an ugly truth than unearth a lie later. Better to know ASAP. Hey, Michael!! What are you doing up this early!!!!????
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It seems to me that there is a disadvantage to being too honest. Some people mistake your honesty for hostility, for one thing. Other people have carefully crafted lies that they live with and they resent the intrusion of your logic. On the other hand, there are some people who act very sweet and nice but when you don't agree with them, they get testy. When you do try to discuss things on their merits, they call you names and imply that you are just being nasty. Do you think it is better to be honest or to sugar-coat things with lies? I agree with shooting straight Hiker. People in the 'industry' I network with, know me for telling them staight up like it is. They know if they need to hear the 'real' they talk to me. I say it like it is. BUT, I've also been 'encouraged' lol by those in high places to be sure I soften it with GRACE. That's hard for me sometimes, but I've tried to be sure I don't mow someone down with my 'truth'. As to not agreeing with someone & then turning on them if you don't, well that's just being bigoted. I know sometimes you and I take a slightly different path, & I won't say at times that may not be irritating if I feel I'm not being understood, but I respect your opinion and think you are a good person underneath it all. So, not sugarcoated but not heartless & cold either. The truth can certainly be served with kindness. That's my .02 anyway
I agree. We disagreed just a few days ago and that very day you were posting greetings in my thread. That shows class. |
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I got in trouble on here yesterday. what was your crime? Well I've certainly never done that.... 
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I got in trouble on here yesterday. what was your crime? Oh God forbid eh?
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You are right, Fran. That is what I am seeing. And some people get overtly hostile if you don't agree. They should have a disclaimer for threads "Only those who agree may post" hmmm wonder where I have heard that, but it very appropriate in this setting. People want to post questions but already have the answer for you, WTF!!! lmao
Feel free to agree to disagree with me Hiker and be as blunt as you want, I will not melt nor wither and die. The truth shall always prevail
I have lots of friends on here, Fran, and we don't always agree. We have butted heads on different issues but we respected the other's right to have a different opinion. That is all I ask. I can disagree with you and still love you to death. Then you and your friends are kindred spirits who obviously understand each other,not to mention being grown up enough to agree to disagree. |
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I got in trouble on here yesterday. what was your crime? Oh, and it's now your responsibility to make people happy? |
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I got in trouble on here yesterday. what was your crime? Well I've certainly never done that....
   Love ya girl
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It seems to me that there is a disadvantage to being too honest. Some people mistake your honesty for hostility, for one thing. Other people have carefully crafted lies that they live with and they resent the intrusion of your logic. On the other hand, there are some people who act very sweet and nice but when you don't agree with them, they get testy. When you do try to discuss things on their merits, they call you names and imply that you are just being nasty. Do you think it is better to be honest or to sugar-coat things with lies? I agree with shooting straight Hiker. People in the 'industry' I network with, know me for telling them staight up like it is. They know if they need to hear the 'real' they talk to me. I say it like it is. BUT, I've also been 'encouraged' lol by those in high places to be sure I soften it with GRACE. That's hard for me sometimes, but I've tried to be sure I don't mow someone down with my 'truth'. As to not agreeing with someone & then turning on them if you don't, well that's just being bigoted. I know sometimes you and I take a slightly different path, & I won't say at times that may not be irritating if I feel I'm not being understood, but I respect your opinion and think you are a good person underneath it all. So, not sugarcoated but not heartless & cold either. The truth can certainly be served with kindness. That's my .02 anyway
I agree. We disagreed just a few days ago and that very day you were posting greetings in my thread. That shows class. Thanks Hiker. I think the bottom line is we can agree to disagree
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I got in trouble on here yesterday. what was your crime? Well I've certainly never done that....
I don't want to slow down the server with emoticons but !
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You are right, Fran. That is what I am seeing. And some people get overtly hostile if you don't agree. They should have a disclaimer for threads "Only those who agree may post" hmmm wonder where I have heard that, but it very appropriate in this setting. People want to post questions but already have the answer for you, WTF!!! lmao
Feel free to agree to disagree with me Hiker and be as blunt as you want, I will not melt nor wither and die. The truth shall always prevail
I have lots of friends on here, Fran, and we don't always agree. We have butted heads on different issues but we respected the other's right to have a different opinion. That is all I ask. I can disagree with you and still love you to death. Hiker, I find myself posting less and less because of it. I'm kind of missing the fun factor it used to have; debates, jokes and good old fun. I agree to disagree with anyone/everyone 
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