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Buddha's totally cool with me. He talked about the coming of Jesus. That's an extremely controversial topic. First off, Buddha said that the Metteyya will only arise when there is no memory of his own teachings left in the World. This obviously excludes Jesus as being the Metteyya of which he was prophesizing. Buddha's true teachings were lost to time, because his apostles tried to change his teachings to control the masses. Therefore, I beleive Buddha existed, but I reject everything written about him or taught by Buddists, except those things that I agree with. If Abra can do it, to Christianity, I can do it to Buddism. Also, I don't believe the first paragraph I just posted. 
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You aren't addressing the question. WHY WOULD 12 LIARS ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE TORTURED AND DIE RATHER THAN RECANT THEIR LIES? If the "Jesus wasn't God...the Apostles made it up" theory is true, then the APOSTLES were liars and suffered torture and death rather than recant their lies. DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT AGIAN. I'm not talking about people who believed the Apostles, I'm talking about the Apostles, whom you deem to be liars. WHY WOULD THEY DIE FOR A KNOWN LIE? How surprising! Abra runs from the hard question that reveals his beliefs to be nothing more than lies. |
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You aren't addressing the question. WHY WOULD 12 LIARS ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE TORTURED AND DIE RATHER THAN RECANT THEIR LIES? If the "Jesus wasn't God...the Apostles made it up" theory is true, then the APOSTLES were liars and suffered torture and death rather than recant their lies. DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT AGIAN. I'm not talking about people who believed the Apostles, I'm talking about the Apostles, whom you deem to be liars. WHY WOULD THEY DIE FOR A KNOWN LIE? How surprising! Abra runs from the hard question that reveals his beliefs to be nothing more than lies. I have no beliefs.
You're questions are presumptuous and accusatory. I never claimed that the apostles were liars. That’s your accusation not mine. Besides, if I believe the stories of Jesus are full of demagoguery why would I not also believe that the stories about the apostles are just more of the same? A lot of people believe in things that aren’t true. That doesn’t make them liars. It just means that they held misconceptions. I already did respond to your erroneous accusations by explaining how many people throughout history followed other people not the least of which was Charles Manson!!! You claim that I ran from your hard (and erroneously accusing) questions, but I blew them completely out of the water whilst you obviously weren’t even paying attention. Once the Bible is recognized to be a religion based on demagoguery everything becomes perfectly clear. You’re just blinded by a belief that it’s all the perfect verbatim word of God. It’s like we’re visiting the Wizard of Oz, and you’re still starring at the massive figurehead in compete awe whilst I’m looking over at Toto pulling the curtain back to reveal the little old man whose pulling the levers. |
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You aren't addressing the question. WHY WOULD 12 LIARS ALLOW THEMSELVES TO BE TORTURED AND DIE RATHER THAN RECANT THEIR LIES? If the "Jesus wasn't God...the Apostles made it up" theory is true, then the APOSTLES were liars and suffered torture and death rather than recant their lies. DON'T CHANGE THE SUBJECT AGIAN. I'm not talking about people who believed the Apostles, I'm talking about the Apostles, whom you deem to be liars. WHY WOULD THEY DIE FOR A KNOWN LIE? How surprising! Abra runs from the hard question that reveals his beliefs to be nothing more than lies. I have no beliefs.
You're questions are presumptuous and accusatory. I never claimed that the apostles were liars. That’s your accusation not mine. Besides, if I believe the stories of Jesus are full of demagoguery why would I not also believe that the stories about the apostles are just more of the same? A lot of people believe in things that aren’t true. That doesn’t make them liars. It just means that they held misconceptions. I already did respond to your erroneous accusations by explaining how many people throughout history followed other people not the least of which was Charles Manson!!! You claim that I ran from your hard (and erroneously accusing) questions, but I blew them completely out of the water whilst you obviously weren’t even paying attention. Once the Bible is recognized to be a religion based on demagoguery everything becomes perfectly clear. You’re just blinded by a belief that it’s all the perfect verbatim word of God. It’s like we’re visiting the Wizard of Oz, and you’re still starring at the massive figurehead in compete awe whilst I’m looking over at Toto pulling the curtain back to reveal the little old man whose pulling the levers. You are a joke.
We have hundreds of thousands of pages of documents (not just the Bible) that describe the beliefs of early Christians. There is nothing different in those beliefs from then to today. Your baffoonish attempts to discredit Christianity reveal you lack of any education in Christianity, the Bible or the history of that time period. |
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Your baffoonish attempts to discredit Christianity reveal you lack of any education in Christianity, the Bible or the history of that time period. I see. Well, then I guess I made the correct choice to not bring any children into this inherently evil world then. 
I really don’t care what this ruthless God might do to me. At least I didn’t provide him with any other souls to shoot craps with. As I’ve stated many times, even if this picture of a God is true, I would decline its offer to spend eternal life with it. I’ll gladly and freely choose death whether I've earned that privilege or not. If I’m not already a sinner I’ll gladly do something wrong just to earn the right to die. I just hope it can be something trivial that doesn’t require violence or harming another person. Maybe I can just masturbate and that’ll be enough to buy my right to die. 
I hope you enjoy your everlasting servitude to this bloodthirsty God. 
It’s really sad that God didn’t turn out to be genuinely all-loving like the pantheistic picture. I was really hoping that God was truly perfect and not grossly demented like the biblical picture suggests. But if you think that any attempts to discredit that picture are baffoonish then I guess it’s hopeless. It’s not really a big deal for me. Death is actually quite inviting in the face of that picture. It just means that all the atheists are right (at least with respect to their own destiny). All I have to do is refuse to accept Christ as my “Savior” and I’ll be saved from that horrid nightmare. Seems simple enough. Only the pantheists lose. The beautiful picture of a perfect all-loving God they had imagine bites the dust. 
Maybe there's another universe somewhere with a perfect pantheistic God that truly has unconditional love to offer and I could put in for a transfer to that univiverse. 
Hell's bells, I might even be inclined to have kids in that universe. 
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Maybe there's another universe somewhere with a perfect pantheistic God that truly has unconditional love to offer and I could put in for a transfer to that univiverse. :bigsmile
Can I come along? |
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Can I come along? As long as you don't bring any bloodthirsty gods with you I don't see why not.
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Can I come along? As long as you don't bring any bloodthirsty gods with you I don't see why not.
What about some insulation-eating goats? |
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Rapunzel, Don't know if your from the old days, but if you are than you know my blood Keith Green. I'm Michael Green. I remember Keith 
(tears of joy ) Rapunzel.....Keith and Melody Green?? Remember?? Ok....go to this website..I bet you will remember when you see this... 
http://www.lastdaysministries.org/ Michael....keep on shining for Jesus!!!!!!!
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What about some insulation-eating goats? That'll be just fine.
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Edited by
MorningSong
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Fri 05/02/08 03:09 PM
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Hi Abracadabra, No, two of my majors were Religious History, and Cultural Studies, so I loved getting to know all the different ways people worshiped, and lived. I was fortunate enough to go to the places I studied about because of touring with "Rock Stars", so you probably are labeling me just a little, but that's OK. I'm not trying to label anyone. You seem to have missed the whole point here. All I'm saying that it is untrue that "One Solitary Life" had such a great impact on all of humanity. The point is that it's a 'proselytizing' technique to try to brainwash people into believing that someone was so unique that they just had to have been divine. But the bottom line is that it's a lie. His popularity was not do to his life alone. His popularity is due to the fact that he's associated with a very ancient and complex religion. That all I'm saying. I'm not even making any claims concerning whether or not he was divine. I'm just point out that the to claim that he was so unique in his impact on humanity is a falsity. It doesn't even come down to a matter of belief. It’s just a fact that without the rest of the dogma Jesus would have no clout at all. He wouldn’t have been able to offer everlasting life, and it couldn’t be claimed that he died for the sins of man. All of that requires a believe in a complete and complex religious dogma that preceded him. He does not stand on his own. That’s a valid point and I’m sticking to it. I just don’t understand why people have to use underhanded ‘proselytizing’ techniques that are basically lies just to try to convince people that he was special. All I’m asking is, “What’s wrong with sticking with the truth?” From my point of view this is nothing more than a brainwashing scheme to try to get people to think that something unexplainable or out of the ordinary is associated with the man named Jesus when in fact, it’s not true. Why tell lies for the sake of spreading a religion? Seems like a legitimate question to me. No one is lying.... BUT there IS someone who IS lying......and it is the father of ALL lies..Satan himself......and he is lying to YOU, Abra!!! And THAT is why you are so very confused, Abra..and the devil is having a heyday with you. But the devil just lost you. I bind that spirit of confusion ...and spirit of unbelief.... and spirit of deception ...and that lying spirit, OFF you Abra....right now...in the Mighty Name of Jesus...who is able to Save and deliver to the uttermost. I command every foul spirit that has hindered you long enough from recieving the TRUTH ....to GO in Jesus Mighty Name ,Amen. Lord God open Abra's eyes Now .. that he may See the Truth and be Set Free now... and be confused no more. Amen!!!!
Thank You Lord....for being a God of Mercy and Love....help Abra to see You Oh Lord God.... for who You really are now....in Jesus Mighty Name...Amen!! |
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No one is lying....
but you are only very confused Abra..and the devil is having a heyday with you. But the devil just lost you. I bind that spirit of confusion and spirit of unbelief off you Abra....right now...in the Mighty Name of Jesus...who is able to save and deliver to te uttermost. I command every foul spirit that has hindered you long enough from recieving the TRUTH ....to GO in Jesus Mighty Name ,Amen. Lord God open Abra's eyes Now that he may See the Truth and be Set Free now... and be confused no more. Amen!!!!heartheartheart To cast such spells as you have done above is against the true law of God, and free will. If you want to be a witch then be a witch, but don't do it in the name of Jesus. JB |
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Hi Abracadabra, No, two of my majors were Religious History, and Cultural Studies, so I loved getting to know all the different ways people worshiped, and lived. I was fortunate enough to go to the places I studied about because of touring with "Rock Stars", so you probably are labeling me just a little, but that's OK. I'm not trying to label anyone. You seem to have missed the whole point here. All I'm saying that it is untrue that "One Solitary Life" had such a great impact on all of humanity. The point is that it's a 'proselytizing' technique to try to brainwash people into believing that someone was so unique that they just had to have been divine. But the bottom line is that it's a lie. His popularity was not do to his life alone. His popularity is due to the fact that he's associated with a very ancient and complex religion. That all I'm saying. I'm not even making any claims concerning whether or not he was divine. I'm just point out that the to claim that he was so unique in his impact on humanity is a falsity. It doesn't even come down to a matter of belief. It’s just a fact that without the rest of the dogma Jesus would have no clout at all. He wouldn’t have been able to offer everlasting life, and it couldn’t be claimed that he died for the sins of man. All of that requires a believe in a complete and complex religious dogma that preceded him. He does not stand on his own. That’s a valid point and I’m sticking to it. I just don’t understand why people have to use underhanded ‘proselytizing’ techniques that are basically lies just to try to convince people that he was special. All I’m asking is, “What’s wrong with sticking with the truth?” From my point of view this is nothing more than a brainwashing scheme to try to get people to think that something unexplainable or out of the ordinary is associated with the man named Jesus when in fact, it’s not true. Why tell lies for the sake of spreading a religion? Seems like a legitimate question to me. No one is lying.... but you are only very confused, Abra..and the devil is having a heyday with you. But the devil just lost you. I bind that spirit of confusion and spirit of unbelief OFF you Abra....right now...in the Mighty Name of Jesus...who is able to save and deliver to the uttermost. I command every foul spirit that has hindered you long enough from recieving the TRUTH ....to GO in Jesus Mighty Name ,Amen. Lord God open Abra's eyes Now .. that he may See the Truth and be Set Free now... and be confused no more. Amen!!!!
Why don't you just leave people's eyes and souls alone and MYOB |
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To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom.
JB
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To the most high God, and to those who watch after me in this life, thank you for your protections from others who would attempt to bind my sovereignty and free will with their misguided prayers and incantations. Send to me only the purest of truth, freedom and wisdom. JB
Amen to that. Dear God, please save me from the religious fanatics!
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which ones?
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Lord God open Abra's eyes Now .. that he may See the Truth and be Set Free now... and be confused no more.
Amen!!!! I’m not the slightest bit concerned about Abracadabra finding personal salvation. That’s the least important thing in the universe. Keep pushing the Bible as the only word of God and your children will experience a world-wide religious holocaust with real bombs and real bloodshed. Is that what you want? This is what your religious fanaticism is bringing to a head. And it doesn’t even involve pantheists like me. It will be caused by a clash of the major three middle-eastern based religions, - Christianity, Judaism, and Islam. One big religion that fell into parts and is now at each other’s throats. I don’t care whether you people believe in pantheism or not. That’s totally irrelevant. When you spark the greatest war on earth you’ll destroy many people who are not of your faith. You people seem to be concerned about saving me from the wrath of a vengeful God. I’m trying to save you people from YOURSELVES! Or more likely, save your CHILDREN from the fate you are so carelessly preparing for them with your constant proselytizing.
If a religious war happens in the future there will be no one to blame but the religious people who insisted on declaring that only their doctrine is the true word of God. So sad. 
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 Somebodys casting magic spells and saying that their magic comes from Jesus????? Ive never heard of such a thing!!!
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Somebodys casting magic spells and saying that their magic comes from Jesus????? Ive never heard of such a thing!!!
you can make up your own religion as you go along.Didn't you know that? That's the beauty of personal beliefs - they can be whatever you want them to be. |
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Somebodys casting magic spells and saying that their magic comes from Jesus????? Ive never heard of such a thing!!!
you can make up your own religion as you go along.Didn't you know that? That's the beauty of personal beliefs - they can be whatever you want them to be. fair enough. Ive just never heard of witchcraft and Jesus being put together
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