I think your post is on target in it's essence, but reading it was very difficult .. just sayin'

You are so right. And furthermore, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. If I have feelings for somebody, the person is beutiful to me, regardless of what's on the outside.

Its ironic how many people state that "looks dont matter", yet anonymous survey after survey state the exact opposite. Looks certainly matter to an overwhelming majority of the population.

Yes, it is true, since women are gold diggers, they will often excuse looks in exchange for a fat paycheck. However, if you dont have a fat paycheck, and are ugly, its likely your woman is leaving with the next best thing. Period.

Guys will rarely excuse looks. Ninety percent of the time, if you are ugly, and your guy is more attractive then you, and knows it, he will be leaving for the next best thing. Period.

Few people are fine with having the feeling that they simply "settled", that is a fact of life.

Wow. That's pretty shallow.

Mine's be in the gutter for years. Along with my mind.

finally, some news I can use.

Women are golddigers?

I am a woman, and I am not a golddigger.

So please don't make blanket statements like that.

Did I also add on that all women also deny that they are gold diggers?

You yourself have "a job" as a REQUIREMENT alongside a "pulse" for a man. It is not acceptable for a man to provide no monetary contribution to a relationship in your opinion. This clearly makes you a gold digger of some degree. You want a man for his monetary contribution, and not for his personality or non monetary contributions to a relationship.

On the other hand, men, constantly excuse the fact that a woman brings no, or little monetary contribution to the table. In fact, "steady well paying job" is usually not even top ten in a mans requirements for a woman, but is ALWAYS top 5 in a womans, even in a womans who makes good money herself.

Woman are gold diggers, period. Its not a matter of if they are, its just what degree of one they are.

Clearly some one got at your goodies and upset you. I am sorry for that but it wasnt' me.

I make good money but why should I support someone who wants to sit on his ass all day?

The fact that men have been doing it all these years does not obligate me to continue the tradition. You guys made your own choices based on cute butts and perky breasts. I hope you got what you paid for, but I am not paying for it.

I do not have a vendetta against any one woman and holding all accountable. Its just, I am tired of being judged on my value as a man by my income, by ALL women, not just the variety with "cute butts" and "perky breasts". All men are judged the same way, wallet first, looks second, everything else is nice but doesnt really matter (dispite what a woman will tell you).

Women gain some marginal respect for being "house wives" to men, but a "house husband", is looked at by women in general as a "lazy worthless bastard". Why is this? Women have zero respect for a man who has no dinero.

How exactly is that NOT the definition of a gold digger?

well I suppose if I wanted a house husband I would feel differently. But I don't. And I feel a man has a right not to want a housewife. I believe that all adults should support themselves if they can; however if a couple agrees that one partner should stay home that is their choice; I don't think it matters if it is the male or the female. I have friends whose husbands stay home with the kids and no one I know ever saw anything wrong with it. But my kid is grown and I don't need someone hanging around my house all day while I am at work. I have had that before and also had to do all the "women's work" they did nothing; I paid for it. Not doing it again. I don't think you can blame me since you seem to feel the same way. I have never in my life expected a man to support me and I just want the same in return.

It is true a man has the option of not wanting a housewife, but my point is this, most men, will respect the housewife for what she does, regardless if that would be their choice for a partner. It is normally of little to no concern that a woman makes a paycheck to a man, unless dual incomes are absolutely neccessary to survive.

On the other hand, men gain no respect for being a house husband from women, mostly because men are viewed as a paycheck by women, and without one, they become worthless. It is normally ALWAYS a requirement for men to have a paycheck, and a good one, by women.


Yes, and I will agree with you, amongst most men, money is not a concern because "perky breasts" and whatever else is all of the concern. Yes, men are inherently perverts, Im not arguing that. Men will usually take the best looking woman their paycheck can "buy".

On the other hand, women are gold diggers inherently and take full advantage of this dynamic of men. Women are generally aware of the "price tag" on their forehead, and will take the highest bidder they can get.

Miss your soulmate because she ISN'T there!

so why is that I have twice married for love, and not money? And the last guy I loved had no money?

Maybe some women are like that but I know plenty who are not. You have gotten in with some bad ones apparently but not ALL are like that. Are you exactly like all men? Do you all think and feel the same exact things? People are individuals with their own ideas, own feelings. Yes, I have heard women talk about men like they are nothing more than a paycheck and I won't even be friends with someone like that.

And just so you know - the pulse and a job thing was a joke.

Anyone who knows me knows that I value intelligence, wit, and kindness above all else. I have many standards of character that I desire in a man which probably means I will be alone forever. But I don't care. I won't give my time to a man who does not have the wisdom I require.

Yes, you may have married for love, but obviously you are in contempt of that situation and have an animosity towards the party who had no money.

I doubt you know very few women at all, who have any measurable self esteems, who are cool with a guy making no money at all. Yes, they all might not want "Donald Trump", but all of them will be gold diggers to some extent. Whether they want a job, a Lexus in the driveway, or health insurance, they want gold of some sort.

Now yes, there are women who are severely broken, that will stay with a guy who has nothing, but simply because they believe they have no "value", or they have some alpha male connection to him (he might be a gang banger or biker guy)

Ok - clearly you believe that humans are not capable of deep emotional ties. That is the real problem here, not whether woman are golddiggers or not.

And that I can't help you with. Good luck in your search.

IF MEETING SOMEONE FOR THE FIRST TIME,ATTRACTION IS PURELY PHYSICAL. IF I CANT LOOK AT SOMEONE I CANT SEE EVEN STARTIN A CONVERSATION. BY NO MEANS DO I NEED A SUPERMODEL OR CENTERFOLD
BUT THEY DO HAVE TO CATCH MY EYE,HENCE WHY WE ALL POST PICS.

ON THE SAME NOTE,I DEFINATLY WANT TO BE WITH SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A TOTAL IDIOT,OR THREE SANDWICHES SHORT OF A PICNIC,SO TO SAY.
AM I PICKY? MAYBE
AM I SHALLOW? NO BECAUSE IM NOT GONNA SETTLE

I do believe humans are capable of emotional ties, I never questioned that. What I dont believe is in a world that goes around by survival of the fittest (in modern times, that means he who has the fattest wallet), "emotional ties" have no monetary value whatsoever, are not paramount to ensurance of survival and comfort, and therefore are completely cast aside or ignored for traits that DO ensure survival (good job, good looks, etc).


Most women, the overwhelming majority, do NOT care about a guy being sweet, funny, smart, sensitive, a good listener, or any of the rest of the drivel they spew. They care about two things, money/status number one, and looks number two. They simply view the other qualities as a nice little bonus.

Im sorry, the number one jack ass in the world, with zero personality, can drive up in a Bentley Continental, and 25 women will throw their panties at him. A nice guy who drives up in a broken down Chevy Celebrity will not get the time of day from even one woman. That is fact. You can deny it all you want. There is a reason why complete ****s like Donald Trump, can grab any super model they want, and akward video store guy is still sitting in front of Cinemax late at night.

At least guys are generally honest. Most guys want a "hot" girl, but they dont cover up that fact with, "Oh I want a nice girl who will listen, and make me laugh", yet still only bag "perky breast girl".

maybe 25 women are throwing their panties at the guy in the Bentley but you are ignoring the 5 that aren't. Shallow people may be the majority, and this is true for men and women. But some people are not like that. And I am looking for one of them. I don't deny that what you say happens; it does. It just does not include ALL women. I know what is in my heart and you do not so you are not qualified to include me in your analysis of ALL women. It's funny because I feel a lot like you do, I just don't have as much anger behind it as you do. I just kind of shake my head at the shallowness that drives 99% of the dating scene and continue to believe that there are some men out there who have the qualities I seek. You can call that drivel if you like, it matters not at all to me. I have never chosen a mate based on looks or money, and you can believe that or not, I really don't care. I know many women are quite impressed by both; I never have been. A guy who laughs at my jokes is much more appealing to me. I work two jobs to make ends meet - I am a single mom, grad student..and people have suggested that I find a man to support me. The idea is abhorrent to me. I don't want something that belongs to someone else. And nothing - nothing is free. I don't want to be obligated to anyone. So if I stay single forever, fine. I just think you need to try to work through your anger some and get to the point where you can acknowledge that, while they are outnumbered, there ARE decent people out there.