please pull me out from my deep deep ignorance.
a couple of days I saw a thread about men attracted or not attracted to independant women. I said "Hell no" I'm not attracted to them as far as i understand the expression, which is as follows:
"Independant woman is the one when you open the door of the car of her, she says I can do it myself. She is the one who when you offet her carry something for her, she says "I can do it myself. She is the one one you open the chair for her in a restaurant. She says 'I can don it myself.'"
That kind of independant woman is the one who is killing gentleness and gentlemen, and to that independant woman is the one I said "Hell no."
However, that woman who works, have a career, is opinionated and defends her position. KNows how to use tools and do things in the house, and the same time is a lady. Well that is the woman that every woman could be.

So please help me with this definition and make me less ignorant. I will appreciate it.

TLW

I-N-D-E-P-E-N-D-E-N-T

Gocha own house, gocha own car...

She's a bad broad, know what I mean.

That is a independant woman the other is a b**ch

Sometimes women are not use to a man treating them the way they should have always been treated, and are use to having to be INDEPENDENT. It may be they are just misunderstood to a certain degree.

I agree.

Hiya Miguel, long time Well, I consider myself to be independent, I don't want or need anyone to support me financially, I can do almost anything that needs to be done on my own and I don't need anyone to take care of me. I just think being independent means being able to take care of yourself yet being open to being taken care of and taking care of when and if you need it, and let's face it, people of both sexes need that on occasion.

From what I read, I think you are confusing your definition with the "women's lib" movement sterotype.

"Independent woman" basically refers to a woman who is not "dependent" on someone else. They do things just fine by themsleves. They are not "needy" or "reliant" on someone else.


To me, an "independent woman" is VERY ATTRACTIVE. Because if she is with me, that signals to me she WANTS to be with me..not that she "needs" to be with me or someone.

Hope this helps clear any confusion.

Your discription is an ignorant woman- not an independant one.

An independent woman is capable of taking care of herself,
but not by being ignorant... JMO

Hey (((TLW))

The one that says 'I can do things for myself!!' is'nt independant, she has deep seeded personality issues and is most likely highly insecure.

I believe an independant woman looks to herself for happiness before others.

I also agree....I have a job,take care of my kids ,my own bills,my house,my everything....yet i still would love to have a man open my door,pull out my chair...etc....but when you have been doing all that by yourself it kind of surprises you alittle bit when you actually have a man that does all that.....and actually when i think about it where are all the men that do that???? where are the true gentlemen out there???????????

I ain't sayin nuffin

Agree!!! I want a man in my life with me and my children, I do not need one. That is a huge difference, but I do know my mom taught me manners, that if a man opens the door for me, Thank you-not- I can get it myself. Or if he offers to pay the check at dinner, hell yes he can pay it, I got kids, not that I need him to pay it, but hell yes he can if he offers. You need to see that movie called, 2 can play that game.

We are here, just steering clear of this topic!

chicken........

I posted this because it's being very confusing for me
I'm going to say something and don't take it as a criticism against USA.
HOwever, the place where i come from (ofcourse there some idiots over there also) and the way i was raised women are always first. You always give her a seat in a bus when is full. You open doors for them, etc, etc.
BUt since i came here, I have found that some ladies just don't appreciate those details, they reject them
ANd those are (or were) like everyday things for me like a second nature
ANd what happens now is that sometimes I don't give a damn anymore.
A couple of months my mom was here, and she noticed an attitude from me towards a female friend of mine, and my mom got really upset. The thing my mom does not know is the kind of woman i have come accross here.

own house, own car, works hard-2 jobs, and fronts my own flat screen. Is something wrong with that?

I N D E P E N D E N T Do You Know What That Mean Mean [X2]
She Got Her Own House
She Got Her Own Car
Two Jobs Work Hard U A Bad Broad
If U Aint On Sit Down
If U Aint On Sit Down
If U Aint On Sit Down
If U Aint On Sit Down

[Webbie:]
I N D E P E N D E N T Do You Know What That Mean
Baby Phat Jus Relax Front Ya Own Flat Screen
Back Rubs Cook Clean And Dont Make Her Make Her Scene
When U Call Her On Her Cellular
She Tell She Dont Need
Not A God Damn Thing You A Hot Damn Thing
If U Think U Finna Get Her Wit A God Damn Chain
You Insane Boy You Betta Get Some God Damn Change
She A Fool Been In School Even Walked Across The Stage
She Say I Love Webbie From His Looks To His Ways
The Stilletos The Jays Depend On How The Weather Look
Flip Flops Slippers Jus To Show Off The Pedicure
Flip Flop Niggas Depend On How The Cheddar Look
She'll Buy Her Own I Dont Think She 'll Never Look
In A Man Face Standin Waitin For Him To Take Care Of Her
She'll Rather Go To Work And Pay The Bills On Schedule

[Chorus:]
I N D E P E N D E N T Do You Know What That Mean Mean
I N D E P E N D E N T Do You Know What That Mean
She Got Her Own House
She Got Her Own Car
Two Jobs Work Hard U A Bad Broad
If U Aint On Sit Down
If U Aint On Sit Down
If U Aint On Sit Down
If U Aint On Sit Down

[Phat:]
She A Dumb Dime Keeper
Gutta Like Keisha
Work That Meat Up
She A Good Freaker
She Stay On Her ****
She Got Her Own ****
She Dont Never Trip
All She Want Is That ****
She Bossy Flossy
Keep Them Hoes Off Me
Gutta Lil Slang Mane I Love When She Talkin
A Independent Chick Do U Kno Wat That Mean
She Cook She Clean Never Smell Like Onion Rings
22s On Her Whip Oh She Do It Large
And She Break A Nigga Off Got A Nigga Spoil
She A Bad Lil Chick A Fly Lil Chick
Hit Me On My Phone She Like To Buy That ****
Got Her Stunna Shades Lookin Like Something
Stallion Hair Long She A Nice Sumthing
She Like To Go To The Mall Everyday For A Outfit
Hair Did Nails Did Independent Wat She Call That

[Chorus]

[Lil Boosie:]
She Got Her Own House
Drive Her Own Whip
Range Rover All White Like Her Toe Tips
She Got A Pretty Smile
Smell Real Good
The Only Time She Need Mane For That Good Jugg
They Buy The Bar Too
They Superstars Too
They Be Like You Aint Got No Money
Take You Broke Tail Home
Baby Phat They On
They Clothes Match They Phone
They Be Like Yea!! When They Song Come On
Leave The Club Kinda Early Cuz They Gotta Go To Work
I Mess Wit Supervisors Who Got Credit Like Big Turk
So Dusty Feet Please Dont Bother Me
I Got Independent Dimes On My Mind Who Spoil Me
Coogi Hat Coogi Fit So Sick
Thats A Gift From My Independent Chick Yes Sir
Tryna Get To Her Gotta Be Yourself Mane
Cuz She Got Her Own Money
She Dont Need No Help Mane




hahaha just some song lyrics, it's called INDEPENDENT

You are right Walker...

Can I order one of you????