Topic: American Impotence Destabilizes Its Allies
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Sat 04/05/08 11:09 AM



so congress just blindly accepted everything???


There are very few in Congress with the security clearance to view the evidence required to make an informed decision on something like the war in Iraq!
They must rely on honesty when presented with the facts.
In this case those facts were doctored up lies!
That is illegal, unless you live in under a dictatorship!
We dont!!!
This is the United States of America!
For us to be a Gov of the people by the people we, or at least our eleted representation (congress), must receive honest information in which to act on!


What do you call suppression of the truth (censorship), political dissent, suspension of habeas corpus, due process and ignorance of the Geneva Convention but a dictatorship, all of which has happened under the Bush Administration?


They all happened? I must have be absent for a few years.

Censorship? Have you been on the internet lately or watched MSNBC, PBS, or anything of that nature?

Political dissent suppressed? Have you not seen marches, protests, lunatics invading congressional proceedings to disrupt with drivel (Code Pink being great at it)?

What Americans were not given rights granted unto them by the Bill of Rights and forced into prison camps? Yeah, none.

Yeah, your argument crashing down in flames.

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Sat 04/05/08 01:44 PM


so congress just blindly accepted everything???


There are very few in Congress with the security clearance to view the evidence required to make an informed decision on something like the war in Iraq!
They must rely on honesty when presented with the facts.
In this case those facts were doctored up lies!
That is illegal, unless you live in under a dictatorship!
We dont!!!
This is the United States of America!
For us to be a Gov of the people by the people we, or at least our eleted representation (congress), must receive honest information in which to act on!


so one man did all of this and got away with illegal acts and NO ONE questioned it or did anything??? not even the dems in congress?

Fanta46's photo
Sat 04/05/08 01:45 PM
You really should follow the news!noway noway

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/05/08 01:47 PM
lol fanta...i'm asking because of how insane that islaugh

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/05/08 03:41 PM
ohwell

lilith401's photo
Sat 04/05/08 04:17 PM
Anyone going to discuss viable solutions or just complain over whose complaint is right?

This is very interesting, over and over... that most of you just care that they are right.

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Sat 04/05/08 04:23 PM


I'm Here to Piss and Moan, PISS AND MOAN! I will offer absolutely no answers or solutions to any problems, but I will PISS AND MOANglasses

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/05/08 04:29 PM
Edited by yellowrose10 on Sat 04/05/08 04:34 PM
but I have questions....people :smile:

Fanta46's photo
Sat 04/05/08 04:33 PM

but I have questions....FANTA....where are you? :wink:


Im watching a comedy video with Jeff Dunham, Memphis vs UCLA!
Whats your question?flowerforyou

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Sat 04/05/08 04:34 PM


but I have questions....FANTA....where are you? :wink:


Im watching a comedy video with Jeff Dunham, Memphis vs UCLA!
Whats your question?flowerforyou


laugh i love walter!!!!!love

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Sat 04/05/08 04:36 PM



but I have questions....FANTA....where are you? :wink:


Im watching a comedy video with Jeff Dunham, Memphis vs UCLA!
Whats your question?flowerforyou


laugh i love walter!!!!!love


women age like fine wine!
Walter-My Wife ages like Milk

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/05/08 04:37 PM
ok ok ok ....but how come the democrats in the senate didn't stop this insane supreme ruler?....open to anyone

Winx's photo
Sat 04/05/08 04:41 PM

ok ok ok ....but how come the democrats in the senate didn't stop this insane supreme ruler?....open to anyone



I don't know why?!sad

All I can come up with is because it is a Republican run house this time.

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/05/08 04:46 PM

again...when did one man get absolute power???? did we do away with the senate, house, congress, everything?


i just check:

110th congress 2007-2009
49 dem / 49 rep / 1 ind / 1 ind dem

house 2007-2009
233 dem / 202 rep

so how did 1 president get absolute power???? huh




how do the republicans have control?

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Sat 04/05/08 04:56 PM
Edited by Fanta46 on Sat 04/05/08 04:58 PM

ok ok ok ....but how come the democrats in the senate didn't stop this insane supreme ruler?....open to anyone


Without dragging the whole country through an impeachment hearing, right in the middle of a war on al Quida.
They have done, IMO, the right thing.
Over the last year he has become ineffective and insignificant!
Hes a bad image to put before the world as the Represenative of America, but that is basically what he has become!

As far as stopping the war,
There was a bill last year, one, which Bush vetoed,
that would have started an organized withdraw (time-table)
of American soldiers and a transition of
security to the Iraqi's themselves!

Bush vetoed it!
When it went back to congress
they could not muster
the two-thirds majority necessary!

With an even number of Dems and Repubs
They fell short!
So you see even though they had enough votes
to pass the bill and end the war.
When it was vetoed,
they couldnt get enough votes to over-ride!

The Dictator and his evil crones had managed to rule the day,
against the majority rules, and continue their personal war (for oil??) in Iraq!

Damn Neo-Consgrumble grumble

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/05/08 04:58 PM
what about before the war actually begun?

Fanta46's photo
Sat 04/05/08 04:59 PM

what about before the war actually begun?


You mean before Bush was President????huh

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/05/08 05:02 PM
before troops were sent. if it was all illegal...why wasn't anything done? makes no sense when impeachment was brought to other presidents...if he was the madman comitting crimes...there are ways to stop him...then i believe the vp stands in. if the vp is a criminal...then the house? i believe

Winx's photo
Sat 04/05/08 05:07 PM
There were lies.

In my city people hang banners from highway overpasses and more.
The banners say, "Impeach Bush" and "Put Cheney in Jail".

yellowrose10's photo
Sat 04/05/08 05:08 PM

There were lies.

In my city people hang banners from highway overpasses and more.
The banners say, "Impeach Bush" and "Put Cheney in Jail".


so why didn't they? maybe those in congress etc knew more than we did?