...And suppose they're innocent?

If they are guilty beyond a reason of a doubt, and did a horrible horrible thing. Kill the SOB. I already think that people that abuse children should get the death penalty.

Just to be clear. There is a United States Naval base there and the detention facility. There is talk of shutting down the detention facility not the base.

Gitmo was/is an end run around existing treaties and U.S. law that requires certain criminal or military procedures to be followed after the arrest, apprehension or capture of individuals.

The legally gray area Bush and company have used to detain these individuals without charge is as dangerous to freedom, liberty and all that Americans hold dear as those who engage in violent criminal terrorist acts.

If these individuals are terrorists then charge them, try them and punish them. Whether it be with life imprisonment or the death penalty. (Personally I think death in some cases is too easy a punishment and also creates martyrs)

Adherance to a higher standard, to the rule of law and to the dignity and highest aspirations of intelligent, fair and decent human beings should be what we always strive for.

Uncover and expose the wrong doer and mete out the appropriate punishment but do not, as we have, lower our standards of behavior to that of our enemy.

This country is suppose to be a country ruled by laws. Not madmen or by religious pronouncements of radicals who wish to kill....oh wait never mind.

Ok then, some of you might know this one: a theological discussion about Xianity (if we can let the other b/s aside). How do you answer the following:

Who killed Jesus?

Remember, you can not answer with history, but only theological explanations.

Hint: If no one ever existed in all time, eternity and the whole universe but you and only you, would Jesus have to die?
[/quote those that were afraid of his POWER
or a collective concious that was afaid that they would lose their power if CHRIST were to remain alive and there taken from them not only the need for them but also the high standing in the community

Ok then, some of you might know this one: a theological discussion about Xianity (if we can let the other b/s aside). How do you answer the following:

Who killed Jesus?

Remember, you can not answer with history, but only theological explanations.

Hint: If no one ever existed in all time, eternity and the whole universe but you and only you, would Jesus have to die?

Christians routinely denounce science. It’s like their favorite past time. The fundamentalists do. I don’t want to say all Christians. Many Christians do not insist on taking the bible literally especially the first two accounts of Genesis. They won’t start taking it in a literal sense up until you get to Abraham and all that jazz.

But just about EVERY evangelical Christian I have ever met is at odds with science.

Marley...the woman had a disability. her hand. and that is what u saw. however, u did say u noticed she was beautiful. does a knarled hand..which sounds like thalidimide the way u described it...make her less beautiful? or less of a woman?
and to the woman that commented on something about our breasts, and how we perceive them...it might interest u to know that one of my breasts r smaller than the other one, but it does not affect my ability to type. and that is how i perceive my breast.

I bet there is at least of couple guys out there with a fetish for that sort of thing.

Well his goal was to eventually reunite the Catholic and Protestant church under the Third Reich. He was a devout Catholic.

He also utilized his faith as a means of further exacerbating the rift that already existed between German Gentiles and Jews at the onset of WW2

People just LOVE throwing around historical facts, ideas and interpretations about Hitler and the Holocaust ad nauseum. Hitler was a human being, just like the rest of us.

We each have the same potential for creating that much pain and misery (whether we want to admit it or not).

YES... there's good and bad in everything AND everyone...

What's so damned difficult about seeing BOTH the good and bad at the same time and, ONCE AND FOR ALL, ACCEPTING IT AND GETTING THE **** OVER IT?

We (mankind) have been miserable slaves to this impulse to draw, quarter, dissect and determine every minute aspect/idea of life as either one or the other.

Don'tcha think it's getting monotonous?

If its possible that this perceived "battle" of good and evil has always been mere man-made illusion, why continue to sit in our own ****ty diapers?

What Christian organizations are doing on a political level with the money they collect from their sheep is no illusion.

They have every intent of doing very evil things.

If the supression of the intellectual advancement of humanity is evil, then these Christian organizations are doing an evil thing by denouncing science (again).

If lying is evil, then these Christian organizations are pursuing evil goals because they are pushing politically to have their creation myth taught to our children as a science. But it's not science. So the Christians are advocating lying to our children, and they are trying to push this into law.

If it is evil to blockage the advance of medical research, then Christians are actively embracing evil by fighting politically to make stem cell research illegal by law. And they are using the money donated to them by Christian sheep to push these agenda. This isn't about Jesus at all. It about politicians pretending to speak for God.

If it is evil to incite international riots by threating the religion of other countries via very intrusive proselyting campaigns that bash the religion of that country and attempt to brainwash its citizens into supporting Christianity, then Christianity is evil.

So it's not just an illusion. It's being supported by the tithes of the Christians who support this kind of evil in the name of the Bible.

It's very real.

Ah yes...our Gas Chambers Can kill 6000 per day...hey what a progress report

every liberty comes with a price...more costly than anyone wants to realize...if people knew what they would have to sacrifice to change the wrongs of this world....their empty words would be silenced.....