Finally someone that knows what they are talking about! Thankfully, I no longer dirty myself with such pagan things!

You are of course ASSUMING that the Bible tells us to celebrate His birth. It does not. Nor does it state that Dec. 25th was His birth date. That is a bold face LIE.

Since there is no birth date given, and we are not instructed to celebrate the birthday of the MESSIAH, at any point or any where in the Bible. I am not showing any disrespect. I KNOW who I worship, do you?

I tell you the TRUTH, you would fair much better to sit down and
take the time to study, do some research. Stop believing the LIES. However if you insist on Dec 25th being the MESSIAH'S birth please provide the Scripture to back it up.

Thank you
Shalom!

Who is Christ? Do you mean Krishna? Isn't he one of the g-ds of India?

December 25th is the birth day of Mithra, so maybe it's MithraMASS! yep that's it, it's MithraMASS!

Last time I checked my Bible, try as I might I NEVER found a date stating the Messiah's birth.

Where does everyone get their information from? Oh yeah I forgot their parents, and their parents before them....perpetuate the lie!

I'm still waiting for the rabbit that lays eggs! I wonder if he has a friend that is a goose the lays golden eggs! I could take the both of them on a world tour and be sitting pretty for the rest of my days!

Requesting a minute was a figure of speech, and you would cast no pearls before swine here, as I am one that studies to show thyself approved. My point of asking for a scripture that stated that The Messiah was conceived on xmas is moot. Since there is no such Scripture.

Yes one can count backwards nine months, but as you stated it is your opinion that the Messiah was conceived on xmas. The Scriptures do not state that, so one should do as the Scriptures say and not add or take away from what is written.

That is the problem with the church as it is, everyone stating their opionions on what they think. Stick to the scripture, especially when you are in a forum that has non-believers. It only confuses the issue.

Please understand that I mean no disrespect to you and I can appreciate that you are leaning on your own understanding, but the Scriptures tell us not to lean on our own understanding.

If we look back at the time of the conception of the Messiah it could have been on Dec 15th, or the 13th, or even the 27th. It doesn't state the date of His conception. Make no assumptions. The TRUTH is He was conceived and He came and fulfilled His mission and that was to let us know that we need to repent (turn back) for the Kingdom of Yahweh is at hand!

Shalom!

Actually Elohim means Mighty Ones. The Mighty ones being Yahweh and His son Yahshua.

Nephilim means giants in Hebrew.

Take note that I never stated that Elohim meant G-d.

As for aliens, Yahshua says He is NOT of this world, when one is not native to a planet or country they are considered aliens. I don't have a problem with that...He said what He said.

When you get a minute, please post the scripture that says that the Messiah was conceived on xmas. Thank you.

Why would the answer come to me? I don't care what his Daddy called him when he was a child. That is between the two of them...

I had questions and I asked, I received my answers, my questions were on a deeper level but hey who am I to say what one should ask of the Elohim and what one shouldn't.

Shalom!

Some TRUTH for you JB:

The church (pagan sun worshippers) tells BUNCHES of lies!

1. If you are good, when you die you to heaven.
2. If you are bad, when you die you go to hell.
3. Sunday is the Sabbath (sun god worship)
4. Xmas is the day of the birth of the Messiah
5. Easter (Isthar worship-pagan goddess) is the day the Messiah rose

The Bible doesn't say ANY of these things!!!!

I mean people teach their innocent babies that there is a santa claus KNOWING that they are LYING through their teeth! Then they wonder why when their children are grown and learn the truth they consider their parents liars! The worst part is, instead of breaking the vicious cycle of lies, they continue with it and teach their children the same thing! Oh my bad, it's tradition..the tradition of lying to your children! How noble!

I used to believe all of it, and then I sat down to read it for myself. I was tired of the (excuse my french) BS!!! In the process of reading and praying the TRUTH was revealed. Humble yourself (not to say that you are not already humble) Ask the right Elohim...YHWH.

But, if you want to do it your own way, that is the beauty of my Elohim, He has given us free will to do as we please.

Shalom!

See that was simple. You've got the wrong G-D. Now ask the questions to get the answers of which you seek, to the right Elohim, humble yourself and the TRUTH will set you free!

Okay I asked him, now you wait for the answer.

If I were YHWH I would send My set Apart Spirit to you, alas I am not YHWH, just His humble servant that had the same questions you have. I adjusted my attitude, humbled myself and got rid of the lies. When that was done I received YHWH's set apart Spirit.

I must state that it's not the spirit that the so-called christians proclaim to have with their Sunday worship (sun god), xmas (mithra's b'day) and easter (isthar) idol worship, I am talking about the TRUE ELOHIM of ISRAEL.

If you are asking g-d to send his spirit you won't get an answer, if you ask YHWH the Elohim of Israel for His truth and Spirit I do believe that you will receive it. Not advice just TRUTH

Shalom!

I didn't go to church on Sunday. Instead I Kept the 4TH Commandment, and I remembered the 7th day Sabbath. I had an awesome time reading and studying the Scriptures!

Saturday is the Sabbath, Sunday is a LIE!

Bere****h (Genesis) 2:3

"And Elohim blessed the seventh day and set it apart, because on it He rested from all His work which Elohim in creating had made."

If you search the scriptures, read encyclopedia you will see that the catholic church is the one that changed the day to Sunday (the day of the sun god) and they had no authority to do so...

COME OUT OF HER (church) MY PEOPLE LEST YOU PERISH!!!!!

Shemoth (Exodus)5:1

"Moses and Aaron went in and said to Pharaoh, Thus said YHWH Elohim of Israel, Let my people go, so that they keep a festival to Me in the wilderness."
And Pharaoh said, Who is YHWH, that I should obey His voice to let His people go? I do not know YHWH, nor am I going to let Israel go."

Pharaoh said he did not know YHWH, well YHWH introduced Himself to Pharaoh and ten plagues later, Egypt hasn't been the same since!

If you truly wish to meet YHWH's Set Apart Spirit, humble yourself and show some respect.

Shalom!

Interesting question! I am new to the site and I love it already! Long story I'll try to make short...

Raised catholic-rebelled, and kicked out of Sunday school. Why? They would read the Bible and then taught us to do the opposite of what they read!
4 years old asked about and got my first children's Bible
12 years old upgraded to KJV
Parents divorced stopped going to church entirely
22 years old reading in spurts, not understanding, my Mother said pray for understanding.
26 years old praying for understanding, and I still did not understand. Lots of questions, no answers. Too many gaps, things don't make sense. How does it go from in the beginning G-d made the heaven and earth, then all of a sudden it's "Let us" make man in our image. Huh? Where did the "we" come from?

CONFUSION!!!

Always been a believer in a higher Spirit, Always believed when we die we either go to heaven or hell. It is what I was taught by my parents that is what they were taught by their parents before them and so on and so on...

Nov. 1994, 28 years old watching t.v. and a minister mentions that xmas is pagan and that what we are taught about xmas is false. I laughed! xmas pagan, and a lie yeah right! The minister challenged me to get my Bible and check certain scriptures...I am always up for a challenge so I get my Bible and I blow the dust off of it...WHAT!!! I'll be a monkey's uncle! He is absolutely correct!

Something is seriously wrong here! Call Mother, something is wrong with xmas, and I can't celebrate it anymore I wON'T celebrate it anymore! I explain what just happened!!!!! Mother: "No, you can't do that! (pause) you know what? go with the spirit let it lead you."

March 1995. Mother dies suddenly! I am deeply distraught!
May 1996 Daddy is diagnosed with cancer! My world is crumbling around me. Who am I?
May 1997 Daddy is gone and in heaven too.

July 1997 start reading the Bible everyday, as opposed to reading once every few years. I need some understanding I need to KNOW what is happening! I still don't understand a thing I am reading. Nothing makes any sense! FRUSTRATED, ANGRY, DEPRESSED! Where is my comfort! I was always told and I believed that I would find comfort in these pages! I want to scream! The world around me is crashing! I am alone. I am an orphan! My parents are dead and gone I'll never see them again!

WAIT!

They are in heaven right! They can see me but I can't see them, at least they know what I am doing everyday. I wonder what are THEY doing in heaven. Well the bible should have that information right...so I begin to do a study on heaven...no harps, no billowy clouds, no angels wings and forget about the lazy days sipping Sweet Tea.

Tears go here -->

I am LOST! It is ALL a lie! Everything I was taught is a lie!!!! I don't understand! I read the Bible again, but I can't see for the tears in my eyes are overflowing. What does it matter anyway I can't understand what the Scripture is saying. I mean I can read. I am educated what is wrong with this book!!!!!!!!! I KNOW that there is MORE but I can't SEE!!!! Where are my parents? Who can give me the answers?

I throw myself on the floor and I cry out and I ask for TRUTH and UNDERSTANDING! I NEED to KNOW!!! I cry myself to sleep.

(I am almost finished I promise!)

Next morning I wake up and the Bible is open it is the first thing I see. I start to close the Bible but something compels me to re-read the passage I read and did not understand the night before...that morning was the 1st day of the rest of my life!

I understood what I read! I understood every single word and the meaning behind it! I read another passage, and another! It ALL began to make sense! Everyday, every where I went, I read more and more! I started at the beginning and read through to the end I sought wisdom and she found me!

Today, 11 years later:

I serve YAHWEH the ELOHIM of ISRAEL! I keep the Sabbath (Sunday is the lie) I keep Yahweh's Set Apart days and I reject xmas, easter and all of man's silly traditions.

I have turned my back on this world and all of it's lies! I have no use for liars. I never have had any use for them. I rebelled against the nuns at the age of four, and now I am rebelling against the world and its lies.

I live in peace and I know that my saviour Yahweh sent His one and only begotten son Yahshua to tell me that Yahweh's kingdom is at hand. I have repented. I have turned back to being obedient to my kind, loving, and very funny Heavenly Father.

More than likely you have been taught the same lies that I was taught. It is only natural for us to do as our parents did. BUT, I challenge you! Take the time, sit down and STUDY the Scriptures do the research, ask yourself questions and then seek out the answers. The Truth will set you FREE!!!!

Peace to you my reader,

May Yahweh bless you, and guard you, may His face shine upon you and give you His peace!

Spider you are point! Very wise indeed! Very few are able to grab this understanding...many are called few are chosen! Wide is the gate that leads to destruction, seek the narrow gate it leads to salvation, unfortunately very few will find it.

I determine what is good for food by studying the Scriptures. I do not eat pork I do not eat rat. I only eat fish that has fins and scales.

If I was starving and the only thing around was pig or rat or some other forbidden food, I would depend on Yahweh to provide a meal or else I would starve to death.

Shalom!