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Wed 12/17/08 12:11 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

How about we all just celebrate the holiday we want? How about we just say happy 'whatever' without being offended? If this is a free country I am free to say 'Merry Christmas' if I want. If you are offended then you are un-American. If you want to say 'Happy Hanakuh" fine, it's your right. If you want to say 'Happy Kwanza' Great(It was invented in this country BTW). If you want to say 'Guten Getrunkentaggen' go ahead. If you wake up you realize that it's not the people wishing you a Merry (insert) holiday that are un-American, it's the ones that get offended that are un-American.


LOL....I like that....HAPPY WHATEVER
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Wed 12/17/08 12:05 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????



Just a quick question before I go:

How is christmas an american holiday, when you obviously have a separation of church and goverment? Doesn't that imply that the United States is in fact indifferent towards religion?




Seperation of church and state.....a crock of sh*t......


So you do not believe in separation of church and state, or you don't believe that it has worked as it should?


both...
I think the pledge should not be removed from schools....any kid who has parents that disagree with it, those kids should not have to say it...

And, it has not worked out as it is said to do, the crooked government still uses biblical reference in many aspects....such as swearing in the president.......
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Wed 12/17/08 12:00 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

Yeah Im backing off. There were some rude personal comments made.


Yes, I can be an a$$hole.....being that you want to attempt to make this post look as if I am thinking selfishly.....
for your information...in my part of the country, I know a vast number of people who believe that MERRY CHRISTMAS should maintain its integrity...it is still a saying out of politness....even is christmas is not your thing...it should be taken as a sign of peace, when someone says it...not something to be offended at
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Tue 12/16/08 11:54 PM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

How is stating "Happy Holidays" requesting that the Christians not observe their interpenetration of the holiday? That is a simple question that has not been answered thus far. Not satisfactorily anyway.


This issue has not been posed, and therefore, needs no answer....I am talking about the words...
not the practice...

What many people fail to understand....freedom of speech.....that means if Merry Christmas offends you....sorry about your luck....there is no excuse for changing the words...
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Tue 12/16/08 11:51 PM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????




So he's saying that only white, Christians are Americans.happy
i dont think i heard him say that hun.!!!noway


thanks for the back up on that....all to often people read what they want, and run with it..
i think the OP is simply stating that christmas is pretty much a tradition to the majority of americans and has been celebrated for a few years now and because of a few who don't like the word christmas stores are just saying to hell with it we'll just say and put up happy holidays,now i'm just waiting for the chinese americans to b!tch and complain to change our new years in america to theirs.traditions are just collapsing more and more and unless its really morally wrong why change it?


yes, exactly....thank you.
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Tue 12/16/08 11:50 PM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????



It serves me no purpose to argue over what I think and believe verses what you think and believe. And as far as running with dogs of any type goes...Yeah... I'll pass from now on...


I remember a thing called "door warriors"......meaning that a person would talk trash, as if they were something to be feared.....but noone ever saw them out from behind the closed door, therefore the person felt safe, because they were sure the door would not open, thus, keeping them from harm.

I laugh when I read alot of threads, cause it seems that this is the case with alot of people on these sites.....internet warriors......LOL


I have made not one comment on this thread I can not back up with credible historical evidence. Can you say the same? I also would say everything I have stated on this thread directly to your face and not even bat an eyelash.


You seem to be intelligent....what you are not understanding, is that since "Christmas was started in this country, hundreds of years ago, never has anyone worried about offending someone by saying Merry Christmas....

You may have historical quotes.....but so far, next to none of them have had anything to do with the point I am making.
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Tue 12/16/08 11:44 PM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

PBug: Separation of church and state, in the US, is largely a myth. Every president to date has been Christian at least. Most politicians are also Christian. Many decisions are heavily influenced by Christianity, as our some of our holidays.

For this reason, I wouldn't say the separation of church and state is obvious at all. In fact, separation of church and state is more the exception than the rule, and the rule is that we are by and large a Christian state.

Here's a couple more examples of issues where religion has played a main role:

Stem-cell research
Abortion laws
Gay rights
The state of Israel and the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.
...list goes on.

Whenever a government is democratic or has special interest groups, and when the country's people are heavily influenced by religion, it's probable that "separation of church and state" is just not going to happen.



I do agree with you on this.....well said
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Tue 12/16/08 11:41 PM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

Firstly, as a Jew from Galilean descent through Mary, genetically he would probably have dark hair and an olive complexion not unlike every other Jew of that area. As a carpenter he would be stocky and muscular - muscular and strong enough to overturn the moneychangers' tables at the Temple. However, judging by the impact he had on people, his whole demeanour must have been one of a highly charismatic character who, once seen, would never be forgotten - the sort of person who, when they look at you, their eyes pierce your very soul. Other than these gleanings and speculations, no other descriptions can really be ascertained. Of course, in art, the appearance of Jesus is portrayed as 'perfection' or 'pureness' or 'holiness' and often in the western world the convention is of a blonde haired blue eyed, white, effeminate looking man, as that, for many people, is the ideal. Similarly, in other cultures Jesus is portrayed as black, oriental, innuit, asian or whatever. But the important thing is not what he looked like but who he is and what he did for mankind.


Thank you
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Tue 12/16/08 11:38 PM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

But my feelings are I do not believe they should change the words from MERRY CHRISTMAS to HAPPY HOLIDAYS!!

Let what it has been remain as it is why go changing things just because someone gets offended by it. Shshs we might as well change everything for someone somewhere is surely to be offended by it.noway


Thank you....
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Tue 12/16/08 11:30 PM
Topic: Edgy Guys ..


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You've been part of this crowd since it's inception silly man


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Tue 12/16/08 03:08 PM
Topic: Edgy Guys ..
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Tue 12/16/08 06:13 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????


when did Jesus turn into a white guy?


Good question. The Hallmark card rendition where he is tall and blond. huh My guess is that is not an entirely historically or culturally accurate depiction of a Jewish man.


wow....you show that you do know something worth saying.....yes, we agree....he was Jewish
lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Tue 12/16/08 06:11 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

What about happy Ramadan? ;-P


Muslim beliefs......this is AMERICA.....say what you want......
lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Tue 12/16/08 06:09 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????



Your profile says "Christian-other" Were we not going to notice that?


the OTHER means NON-DENOMINATIONAL....look up hopecenternashville.com......there you will see the last church I attended.....ALL RACES AND CULTURES


But American Indians are not Americans because they arent Christians and they dont celebrate Christmas? noway


You are simply hell bent on making me look racist.....apperaently you see more race issues then I do......YOU are the one who continues to bring them up.....you are dismissed.....go away
lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Tue 12/16/08 06:05 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????








ps I'm not athiest..I'm christian. but christian or atiest or jewish doesnt make you an american.Living in America does and acceptance of all kinds of religion and culture makes you American.
well merry christmas all you americans, from yur fellow canadian.!!:wink: drinker drinker drinker


get er done!

Seems alot of people thinhk I made this post to spout off religious beliefs....WRONG....read all of what I have written....with an open mind.....you may be surprised.....lol



Um i think you are the one that needs to reread what you wrote. And then read all of the replies and think about why people are reacting to what you wrote. Hmmmmmmm

You need to google american history and read up.


Miss HellKitten, I for one do respect and appreciate what you're saying. I'm not about getting in anyone's face over any aspects of this topic. I suppose I just feel that if it bothers someone by simply wishing them well, which is how I've been raised to view the term "Merry Christmas", it makes me feel like I have to not only refrain from greeting them at Christmas, but maybe I should refrain from any greeting at all. After all, maybe they have something against "take it easy" or "have a great day" or "happy birthday". I'm not asking anyone to respect or appreciate my religion or what I believe. I'm just basically trying to spread cheer and maybe get a little back in the process but after seeing how much it bothers some people in this thread, I'm thinking I should just be blank and restrain myself from any direct greetings of any kind.
I think, from what I've had the pleasure to see, that you're an awesome individual and I really hope I haven't offended you or anyone else. I think I'll think twice before I post in any of the serious threads from now on. Not worth it...


I hope you don't think I was referring to anything that you have said, as I do understand what YOU are saying. I just don't understand the OP and the "american tradition". You have not offended me, nor has anyone else in the topic. Just trying to stir up some stuff. No worries darlin.flowerforyou flowers


often this is the reason for debates....LOL

I was prettymuch doing that....I knew this would start a rampage....no offense intended to anyone....no offense taken by me...


A rampage? Hardly. Its been a joke. happy



Its been a joke....as have you been.....thank you for playing the game.......you can go home now.

I will not deny that I can be a real a$$hole.....but that does not make me racist or stupid
lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Tue 12/16/08 06:03 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????


yeah....whatever.......for the most part, I respect other people boundries.......and their beliefs.....

But I think it is BULLS*IT, when stores feel the need to cater to UNAMERICAN WAYS IN AMERICA....

Screw the "happy holidays" crap....

It was founded as CHRISTMAS....not HOLIDAY.

other cultures may believe in something other then CHRISTMAS....but IN AMERICA WE HAVE CHRISTMAS...
if you live in America....you should respect the culture of OUR ways....as americans should do in other countries....

With that being said....

drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker drinker

MERRY CHRISTMAS.....And a HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Wow! You really don't get what America is all about. This country was founded specifically to offer FREEDOM of RELIGION. Check your grade school history. Christmas is a religious holiday, not an American one. This country is made up of many different ethnic & religious groups, and all of them celebrate major holidays during Dec or early Jan. Chanukah, Ramadan, Dawali, Kwanzaa, to name a few. Note: they all grew out of the pagan ritual celebrating the winter solstice.

Here's hoping everyone on this site enjoy their particular winter holiday. drinker


FREEDOM of RELIGION....
But it is not founded on changing tradition so as not to offend those who want something other then the tradition......
lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Tue 12/16/08 05:58 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

Just a quick question before I go:

How is christmas an american holiday, when you obviously have a separation of church and goverment? Doesn't that imply that the United States is in fact indifferent towards religion?




Seperation of church and state.....a crock of sh*t......
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Tue 12/16/08 05:56 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

True that Christmas was not in fact born and bread in America but it has in fact been celebrated for over 4000 years. Way before Christ was even born in fact. Many of these traditions began with the Mesopotamian celebration of New Years. And similar traditions were celebrated by many different cultures in fact. And was incorporated into America once it begin to be populated. Around that time is when the meaning was more of less changed to the way the Christians in fact believed instead of how the Romans or Pagans actually celebrated this time of year.


And in fact in the 1600's Christmas was actually outlawed in England and in parts of the English colonies in America. The old customs of feasting and decorating, however, soon reappeared and blended with the more Christian aspects of the celebration.

Yes I will admit that it is more likely for Christians to celebrate Christmas then any other religion. But it is not excluded to Christians only.

And in fact the meaning of Christmas as far as the Christians go is not what most celebrate today. For most Christmas is about giving, sharing being with family and friends and that is when Santa Claus comes to visit all the children.

Of course this is not what the Christians meant this Holiday to be about at all but in reality it is a time for all to Celebrate regardless of what religion one is. It should be a time that all come together as it was meant to be in the beginning before religion took it over.


thank you very much...

seems alot of people get on here just to run their mouth and start sh*t most likely....because they have nothing better to do with their life?
lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Tue 12/16/08 05:52 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

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well....Miss Lady....that was quite profound and I think it has made e change my way of thinking.....not about the OP.......just thinking about you....LOL
lovemeifyoucan26's photo
Tue 12/16/08 05:49 AM
Topic: POLITICAL CORRECTNESS???????

Jesus was an Arab and a Socialist.

http://tenpercent.files.wordpress.com/2007/06/b_che.jpg

Merry Christmas, Che Christ!



HE was JEWISH......Mohammad is Arab
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