the added statement 'you do kind of look like miss Cleo' is a strict reference to what I look like, and the only similar asthetic I have to miss cleo is being black,,,but in any case

no , you miss basic grammar my dear, there is a difference between 'they' and 'he'

this debate makes both people identical, my logic entertains the idea that they were two seperate INDIVIDUALS, with different pathology and motivation,,,,the potential for duress being one of those motivss, makes a difference to me

let me paint the difference,, if two people break into a party and shoot two people, and then put the gun to your teen head, hand you a gun, and tell you to choose to shoot someone or die, and you shoot someone

are you just as 'cold blooded' as the people who implemented the plan to kill and include you in the killing?

there is a thing called duress , there are things called motive and pathology to which duress applies,,,



that is no contradiction,,,,

1. no, because they mrudered fewer people with a bomb than the serial and spree killers who ignite gun control debate, it makes this case irrelevant to the gun control debate

2. no 'they' dont deserve sympathy, but the teen may depending upon what the circumstances of his involvement are

3.in regards to the death penalty for one who murdered others, I dont agree with the death penalty in general because of how much I Feel details matter,, and Ive made no secret of it,,,but ESPECIALLY in cases of duress where I feel legal precedent backs me up on what constitutes murder of the death penalty type from others

4. there is no 'im black' card, I believe someone compared me to miss cleo of which the only obvious similarity is that we are both black

5. emotional clickes like and capitalizing words are just as easy to read as using words like 'coldblooded' and using insults like falling off a cliff and having difficulty putting 2 and 2 together. takes one to know one,,,,seems like emotions on both sides, but IM just trying to interject LOGIC In WITH THE EMOTION.

6. Im no more pyschic or predictable than anyone else posting with the desire to just see more death/revenge.

Im tired of debating it really, havent seen the video, or who pulled what trigger or why,, there were two of them, two coldblooded or possibly one coldblooded and the other trying to stay alive,,,,

coldblooded to me implies no concern for the life of others, it doesnt mean concern for staying alive oneself,,,,there is a difference to me,,,,

these brothers murdered fewer people than most of our non jihadist serial killers do wih guns

try to spin it anyway you want, but the damage here was due to a bomb, the only gun victim to be harmed was one TRAINED WITH A GUN, and there was a carjacking in which the owner was not shot,, leading me to believe this was not about GUNS or killing with guns


I believe people under duress do receive leniency in PLENTY of legal cases,,,,

Im reading emotion when I read people lumping 2 people in together, and calling for death,,,,thats emotional, noone cares what the situation actually was, just what they think it was,,,,

and Im fine with looking like miss cleo (being black),,,,,but that doesnt make me a psychic anymore than the people assuming the two brothers were BOTH 'coldblooded'

bombs are not guns,, cant say it any clearer than that,,

these men were planning destruction with bombs, no evidnece that guns were for more than their own protection against capture ,,,,,

irrelevant to INNOCENT people needing guns,,,,


and if ONE Of these men was an older brother with authority over the other, than its more about whether the trouble would be for ONE TEEN to go to fbi and ask for help,

but Im sure everyone here would have been just that type of totally self sacrificing teen,,,


look up duress instead of just reacting emotionally, the older brother coldblooded killer PROBABLY From everything in his past

the younger brother coldblooded killer POSSIBLY though nothing in his life or past points to it,,,

no clue who this so called hero is,, but in any case

there is no evidence they PLANNED to dun down innocent people., so like I said, a gun wouldnt stop a bomb, and all the people who tried to stop him or whom they fired upon had WEAPONS

so gun control remains irrelevant,,,,when their victims were victims of a bomb or ARMED Themselves,,,,

SHOOUTOUT WITH POLICE,, involves people who are ALL ARMED

it made no difference

your connection isnt a connection, is irrelevant to gun control...

I wasnt 'hoping' for it to be any ethnicity or race, criminal profiling will usually suggest someone of extreme radical beliefs but I Didnt hear any mainstream media saying that either,, it would be just as insulting as calling black people 'ferals'....I dont engage in that speech and its also irrelevant to the gun control debate

Can you say 'logic'?

no unarmed people were threatened with a gun,, the gun control debate has nothing to do with this series of events

I agree, they were cowards. BUt tell me this. as A HIGH SCHOOL student, if all you had was an older brother in the states, and he brought you in with GROWN MEN who were dangerous and crazy and told you God knows what about participating in their crimes,, how brave would YOU be?

I can tell you any number of adults dont have the 'bravery' they would have expected from the recent high school graduate....


but I dont know that would make them 'cold blooded'


we know the older brother was 'radical' , we still know squat all about the younger one and what his involvement was specifically in terms of anything beyond delivering the bag with the explosive in it,,,

Reading over these bizarre attempts at being rational and lucid opinions and descriptions of what occurred in this entire matter, I laugh when I recall one of 'Boston's Finest' ranting on about whoever did the bombing as being 'intellectually dysfunctional and stunted' in trying to justify their deed; he should read these rants....
I'm not at all surprised that no one has yet seen the motivation for this attack; no one here has , obviously, paid any attention to the war in Chechnya, especially during the first phase back in 1994 to "95 with the Russian assault and destruction of Grozny under then Russian President Yeltsin. The American govt. basic policy, when there were cries for US or UN intervention, was that the war in Chechnya was basically 'an internal matter' (like a US state that tried to secede from the Union) and the US was NOT going to intervene, nor make any formal protests. Needless to say, this was devastating news to the people of Chechnya who then issued statements to the effect that it was the fault of the US that the Russians were being allowed to slaughter them. Newspaper accounts were full of this ...and people here wonder why 2 radicalized pseudo Chechnyan patriots planted bombs in their US home ground: it was payback time for what many Chechnyans believe in that the US was directly responsible for what the Russians did to them. Convoluted logic, to be sure, but then, emotional upsets of that scale are never really logical, especially by those directly involved and their 'logic' will be passed on to others that come after them; that is and should be perfectly normal and logical...
The older brother made a rather telling remark on one of his posts that he did not understand the Americans at all, well, for what it's worth neither does most of the world; in some regions much more so than others, such as the Middle East, and most of Africa; basically wherever the US has their boots on the ground. It is always perceived as having their boots on their necks and they deeply resent it and one day, in some form or another, they will pay the US back...so goes US foreign policy. Perhaps people should re-read the Farewell Addresses of George Washington and Dwight Eisenhower...

alot of IFS that didnt happen in this case, still making it irrelevant to the gun control debate,,,

yes, please answer how a natural born citizen having the rights given them in the CONSTITUTION has anything to do with either OBama or gun control or this case

as I recall, no civilians were harmed with GUNS, the only death from guns were those who HAD GUNS THEMSELF

so I still dont see the relevance to gun control,,,,

not sure what firearms can do against a bomb,,,,,,

but I can see how people will try to use this in the gun control debate,,,,


or what this has to do with immigration, as legal immigrants they had the potential to be criminals as much as any natural born citizen,,,,,

Even if someone never wants a relationship ever again, it's just nice to have happy memories of the good one's. All too often, I hear "I wish I would have married ? Instead of ?", mainly from friends. Some will always regret that one who got away, but they can't expect their "one who got away" to just suddenly come running back, when they have a new bf/gf.

If you think about it..

This week has pretty much derailed Obama's gun grabbing and amnesty agenda.

A couple of America loving immigrants blowing people up and then having an entire city locked down with its sheeple cowering in their homes wishing they had a firearm to defend themselves..

Couldn't have been a better week for El Commandate..

Dude, that there is nothing but a personal attack. Not good.