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TheDoctor394 Joined Mon 12/31/07 Posts: 6	Fri 01/25/08 02:41 AM Topic: movie game
Longfellow Deeds from "Mr Deeds Goes To Town".

TheDoctor394 Joined Mon 12/31/07 Posts: 6	Thu 01/03/08 11:30 PM Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer
Hmmm... 13 pages of anything but responses to this original post. I've plowed thru them all. For the sake of a reminder this was the OP: this thread is about questions that the religious will just close their minds to and refuse to answer or just afraid to answer because it will question their suppose faith or question that they just can't answer rationally ..here's the first one according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator if the answer is no then could you explain why with a rational explanation Funches; Since you make references to "the religious", "believer's logic" and "God" - and refered to "The Creator" my response is to the Premise I feel that you have established - in that the Christian God of the bible, who claims to be the Creator - is the subject of your question "does the same logic apply to the Creator". The answer is no, and the rational explination comes in one of the basic attributes of the God of scripture. Since the object of the question is the scriptural God - the God of creation, henceforth known as the "Creator" - it is understood that He is omniscient, omnipresent, has no beginning and will have no end. These attributes are basic, and unquestionable, else we are not talking about the God of scripture - but some other god. Therefore... Your argument establishes that the universe was created. Having accepted this as a valid premise, it follows that the universe now exists within a time continuum. It has a beginning, and through the course of time, changes, evolves, deteriorates, etc. We know this through our experience with a minute portion of the universe - Earth, and whatever scientific evidence we have accumulated by our research in the heavens beyond. The Creator - however, exists beyond the time continuum, and is not confined by it. Whereas the universe is. Therefore - since the Creator is not bound by time, it is illogical to presume that a Creator had to have a creator. It contradicts the definition of Him, and it is irrational to attribute a fact to a subject that contradicts the definition of it. Sorry for the interuption all - do continue. Um... I don't think you've noticed that I actually did answer the original question just the other day. Scroll back a page.

TheDoctor394 Joined Mon 12/31/07 Posts: 6	Thu 01/03/08 03:24 PM Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer
my god, i'm not reading all of this. it's pointless to ask religious folk for real answers. faith isn't truth. too many ignorant peoples on either side Is it pointless because you don't get the answers you want to hear?

TheDoctor394 Joined Mon 12/31/07 Posts: 6	Thu 01/03/08 01:21 PM Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer
Ooohhh. A Friendship Civil War. Is this what have I landed in the middle of?

TheDoctor394 Joined Mon 12/31/07 Posts: 6	Wed 01/02/08 01:49 PM Topic: questions that believers are afraid to answer
this thread is about questions that the religious will just close their minds to and refuse to answer or just afraid to answer because it will question their suppose faith or question that they just can't answer rationally ..here's the first one according to believers logic, God had to have created the universe because the universe couldn't have popped out of nothingness and create itself .....so therefore do the same logic apply to the creator if the answer is no then could you explain why with a rational explanation I'm new here, and I found this question which, I know, has had a lot of replies since, and I can't be bothered going through them all. I thought I'd have a go at answering it, although whether people will see it as "rational" is another thing. Whatever beliefs we have on how the universe came into being, we are faced with the problem of something coming from nothing. Yes, Christians believe God created the universe. So where did God come from? We believe He has always been, which is impossible, of course, but we believe it anyway. If we are to say someone created God, then we have to ask who created THAT being? Someone else? Then who created THAT one? And then who created the next one? We can go on indefinitely. But if we dismiss the concept of God, are we much better off? The universe just started? How? With the big bang? How did that happen? I'm no scientific expert, but isn't the belief that it started with an inrush of hydrogen or something? If so, where did the hydrogen come from? Was it something else? Where did that come from? No matter what we believe, we have problems. If we believe in God, we either have to accept that He has always been, or there was an endless number or beings going on creating each other beforehand. If we dismiss God, then we have to accept that the universe had to have come from nothing.

TheDoctor394 Joined Mon 12/31/07 Posts: 6	Wed 01/02/08 01:32 PM Topic: Australia!!!!!!!
In Brisbane here.