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Mon 03/12/12 08:20 PM


If it is as cut and dry as you proclaim MorningSong, let me ask you a question.

If and when a person(s) does as you state and all the knowledge is directly given to him/her through the holy spirit. Why then is there so many different denominations? Why so much disagreeing on exactly what the scriptures are proclaiming and what God wants?



I can hear my old pastor in the background now..

"That's the Devil's work boy."

What a schizo..
..meh, maybe he was right? o.O

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Mon 03/12/12 08:17 PM

for me , it works, because birth, life, pain, and death are natural to existing


Yes, but pain can be medicated.
Pain can be overcome.
..but what about when it cannot?
I speak not of broken hearts or broken bones either.


and, for me, life (Even life in pain) has potential and is therefore precious

too precious to 'snuff' out with assisted suicide,,, in my opinion


Admirable, however, that is YOUR belief.
Why does everyone always have to force their beliefs on everyone else? (Not aimed at you, in general.)

A guy wants to marry a guy, *shrug* so what, their choice.
A girl wants to marry a horse, *shrug* so what, her choice.
This guy wants to be a girl, again, who cares..

..but suddenly, this guy just doesn't want to "exist" anymore.
Now we have a problem? o.O


if someone is too physically incapable to take their own pills, ID say they must be on some type of support and they would therefore not apply

but if people wish to die, they can try to do it themself, and if they are successful,,,,no worries for them...


If they are not successful, they are branded.
They are forced into the "system".
Endure medications, treatments, and force fed pills.

..are they worse than you or I?
If so, why? Just because they don't hold the same values/morals as you?

God says, "Judge not less ye be judged."
Atheists say, "Don't judge me, it's my choice not to believe."

So, why/where do we draw the line of what you are and are not allowed to believe in? Who are any of us to state what is right and wrong for each and every person?


it shouldnt be on another person to end an existence (otherwise functioning body)


It wouldn't be "on" them.
It's the patients choice.
Doctors, they can be pretty heartless, since in their profession they have to be.. You never can predict life, let alone death.

..but if you wish to choice your own way out..

Why is that such a sin?

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Mon 03/12/12 08:09 PM
asleep

..details, details..

Always stuck in the details.

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Mon 03/12/12 08:07 PM






Oh and it doesn't have anything to do with Obama.

It is just some stupid garbage that isn't accurate at all.

You are verified as a registered voter at a valid address on their list when you go in or you have to use a provisional vote and they are not gonna be used if you can't be verified.




the cheerleading squad in full action today... of course it is obama's doing, how else can he win without the illegal vote?



I dont know,,maybe the FEMALE vote of those women concerned about reproductive rights

or the GAY vote, for those concerned about their ability to ' marry' and be 'open' in the military


or other people who are concerned about how religious the government is going to become


,,those are three pretty politically ACTIVE groups of voters


oh, come on... even you have to admit this is pretty stupid... we need ID's for anything/everything else, but not to elect our public officials?



I do think its stupid,, that its not been an issue for any other election until NOW,,,,wonder why

Each state is different, I suppose

In nevada , we only show id when we register, and after that we only have to show up at the polls

,, but they keep trying and trying to find a way,,, I guess they must be kind of scared that the PEOPLE might elect him again,,,,, kind of sad the lengths they are going through to try to keep that from happening,,,


and that makes this election any different how?


Cause it involves a Black Muslim guy. -.-

(Whatever he is these days.) o.o

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Mon 03/12/12 07:57 PM



I didn't know dead people could vote and be verified,hmmm.


I am sure that doesn't happen too damn often.

It is hard enough to get Americans to vote in the first place, they are too lazy to vote. None of the non Americans would be on the registered voter list to be able to vote so we know they aren't voting either.


It happened in my grandmother's old town.

Her town (Iowa):

Votes registered just from her town:
173 (DEM) - 158 (REP)
Total Votes: 331 Votes.

At the time...
The population of her town was 267 people.

Truly was amazing..

Especially since about 70 of those people were under the age of 18.

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Mon 03/12/12 07:51 PM

I am not supportive of the pre meditated taking of life, unless that life is being maintained artificially(by machines) in the first place


So, it's unethical/immoral to let people die...
..but it's ethical/moral to force them to live/suffer?

How's that work exactly?

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Mon 03/12/12 07:34 PM

Legalize it. It amazes me that in many states suicide is illegal. It shouldn't be.


Exactly.

If someone wants to kill themself, why is there a law against it?

Is it because of God?

No, constitution clearly states this is not to be a country run on religious precepts.

Not to mention, it helps the economy if there is less people.

If the term "suicide" offends you.

Consider it a "sacrifice" if that floats your boat.

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Mon 03/12/12 07:30 PM

The Bible is just a bunch of made up BS.


Your statement is just a bunch of made of BS words.

..what's the difference? o.O

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Mon 03/12/12 07:22 PM





chocolina said:
If he says 'Jesus is OUR GOD (Meaning MAN)' or 'Jesus is GOD' in both cases that is blaspheme.


Sin_and_Sorrow said:
Then Jesus was a sinner, deserved to die, and did NOT die for our sins.

OK .. let me explain you again by laws of logic :
If A = God and B = Jesus
If A/God / =1 /The Only One / :
1. If A /is god/ = 1 / the Only One / , then B /Jesus/ is not God
2. If A = B , then A is not = 1 , hence polytheism aka blaspheme
3. If A= B=1 , then non of religion and beliefs but Christianity is the Only Right religion and Torah , Koran and all non Christian / holy /books are false because non of them accept Jesus like their god


pitchfork bigsmile :angel:

Oh but you have usurped math logic to make a point.

If A = God and B = Jesus (and each value is equal to 1).

Then A multiplied by B = 1. A divided by B = 1.

There is no conflict.

It is a true path because the result balances.

(but there are many paths to balance)


Even if Adventure sees it.

So, squished is right. :)

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Mon 03/12/12 08:58 AM
..........


...nevermind, just nevermind...

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Sun 03/11/12 11:17 PM





No it was not okay. That is why he was kicked out of Heaven. And no we won't suffer worse then Satan. They will be punished the same at the same time, thrown into the lake of fire. Satan is only in Hell awaiting Judgement.


So, basically..

We have all become "sinners" due to Satan.

Yet he gets to kick back in the hotel lobby, doing wtf ever it is they do down there.

And when said "judgment" finally happens..

..only then he does he get to serve the equal punishment, of those who've sinned since he's original cause took place?

..and you still deem such "fair" and "just"?


Why is it not fair or just? Heck on this Earth you can technically do anything that trips your trigger just as Satan can in Hell. So again, please explain how it is unfair.


He committed the act that doomed us all, from the start.
He gets to kick back for the past, what 20,000 some odd years?

Meanwhile, when judgment comes everyone that "sinned" since suffers the same exact punishment at the same exact time; and you call that fair? o.O

Let's say I kill 50 people.
You kill 1. However you do it 10 years later.

I don't start serving my sentence, until you do.
And our punishment is the exact same.

Fair?


He committed no act(s) that doomed anyone but himself. Only you can do an action to condemn yourself. You are not accountable for anyone's actions but your own as no one is accountable for YOUR actions.


You perfectly ignored the actual question.

..and yes, he did, fyi.

Snake.
Apple.
Eve.

..ring a bell? o.O

If he "hadn't" done anything..?

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Sun 03/11/12 11:13 PM







Sin_and_Sorrow said:

I don't believe in Satan so he can suck my ***.

That said.




You don't want Satan to die laughing, eh




..and again.

Where is the logic in that question?
Do you know what "logic" actually is?


The logic is :
Don't offer to Satan something which you haven't ..


Again, doesn't make sense.

If I don't believe in him, I'm not "offering" him anything.

..and despite deformities, everyone has an a**.

So, lacking logic. -.-



You offered him a non-existent ***...


Try reading for once...





..heed your own advice.

My *** does exist.

Man, you people are stupid sometimes, I swear.



You were the one who was confused by logic and you say we're stupid?



careful, your IQ is showing...





Apparently it's not, since you are still talking.

And yes, I am STILL saying that, and STILL saying there IS NO logic.
In either of your words.

Not "confused" by logic, because there was NO logic in it.

So, plz, do yourself a favor.
Just walk away.

In fact, I'll do it for you.

*walks away*

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Sun 03/11/12 07:15 PM





Sin_and_Sorrow said:

I don't believe in Satan so he can suck my ***.

That said.




You don't want Satan to die laughing, eh




..and again.

Where is the logic in that question?
Do you know what "logic" actually is?


The logic is :
Don't offer to Satan something which you haven't ..


Again, doesn't make sense.

If I don't believe in him, I'm not "offering" him anything.

..and despite deformities, everyone has an a**.

So, lacking logic. -.-



You offered him a non-existent ***...


Try reading for once...





..heed your own advice.

My *** does exist.

Man, you people are stupid sometimes, I swear.

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Sun 03/11/12 05:08 PM



No it was not okay. That is why he was kicked out of Heaven. And no we won't suffer worse then Satan. They will be punished the same at the same time, thrown into the lake of fire. Satan is only in Hell awaiting Judgement.


So, basically..

We have all become "sinners" due to Satan.

Yet he gets to kick back in the hotel lobby, doing wtf ever it is they do down there.

And when said "judgment" finally happens..

..only then he does he get to serve the equal punishment, of those who've sinned since he's original cause took place?

..and you still deem such "fair" and "just"?


Why is it not fair or just? Heck on this Earth you can technically do anything that trips your trigger just as Satan can in Hell. So again, please explain how it is unfair.


He committed the act that doomed us all, from the start.
He gets to kick back for the past, what 20,000 some odd years?

Meanwhile, when judgment comes everyone that "sinned" since suffers the same exact punishment at the same exact time; and you call that fair? o.O

Let's say I kill 50 people.
You kill 1. However you do it 10 years later.

I don't start serving my sentence, until you do.
And our punishment is the exact same.

Fair?

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Sun 03/11/12 05:01 PM

No it was not okay. That is why he was kicked out of Heaven. And no we won't suffer worse then Satan. They will be punished the same at the same time, thrown into the lake of fire. Satan is only in Hell awaiting Judgement.


So, basically..

We have all become "sinners" due to Satan.

Yet he gets to kick back in the hotel lobby, doing wtf ever it is they do down there.

And when said "judgment" finally happens..

..only then he does he get to serve the equal punishment, of those who've sinned since he's original cause took place?

..and you still deem such "fair" and "just"?

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Sun 03/11/12 04:53 PM

Well for one, "hell" is not everlasting punishment. It's only punishment in the fact that Satan and his angels are no longer in Heaven. They are not tortured in hell or anything, they are placed there because they were kicked out of Heaven for what Satan was saying, believing, and doing in Heaven.


So, in other words..

What Satan did was okay, he just can't go back to Heaven.
Meanwhile, unless we "worship" this God of yours, we will suffer even worse than Satan himself?

Interesting.



Lake of fire.

Revelations 20:15

15And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.


..which is just so fair and just.

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Sun 03/11/12 04:50 PM

Cowboy,Satan is not in hell...

satan walketh about seeking whom he may devour....


We wrestle not agaisnt flesh and blood, but against

principalitirs and powers of darkness in the spiritual realm...


do a study in The Word...


:heart:


..then how is Jesus/God going to toss "Satan" into the Lake of Fire, if he's not even if there to begin with? o.o

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Sun 03/11/12 04:44 PM
Why is it impossible to consider the fact that the evil/wicked could and will ultimately spend ALL of eternity in Hell?

You say He died for all our sins..
..he says all changed from Old to New Testaments.

However, Jesus, throughout the Bible, has spoke more openly of the truth and validity of said place of torment.

From the words of Bertrand Russel:

"There is one serious defect to my mind in Christ’s moral character, and that is that He believed in hell. I do not myself feel that any person who is really profoundly humane can believe in everlasting punishment. Christ certainly as depicted in the Gospels did believe in everlasting punishment, and one does find repeatedly a vindictive fury against those people who would not listen to His preaching–an attitude which is common with preachers, but which does somewhat detract from superlative excellence. . . . I really do not think that a person with a proper degree of kindliness in his nature would have put fears and terrors of that sort into the world. . . . I must say that I think all this doctrine, that hellfire is a punishment for sin, is a doctrine of cruelty. It is a doctrine that put cruelty into the world and gave the world generations of cruel torture; and the Christ of the Gospels, if you take Him as His chroniclers represent Him, would certainly have to be considered partly responsible for that."

The people living in Sodom and Gomorrah.
Satan. Your Hitlers and your Mansons.
The Black Hand members, and many more.

You state:

"So long as you truly feel in your heart guilty for your false belief and your sins, you will find your way into Paradise."

So, by your standards and what you've both proclaimed:

..If not to suffer eternally in Hell, where does such type of people then go?

..and sweet cherry pie..

Do we really now deem Hell as nothing more than just a Hotel Lobby?!

Seriously.

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Sun 03/11/12 04:14 PM



Sin_and_Sorrow said:

I don't believe in Satan so he can suck my ***.

That said.




You don't want Satan to die laughing, eh




..and again.

Where is the logic in that question?
Do you know what "logic" actually is?


The logic is :
Don't offer to Satan something which you haven't ..


Again, doesn't make sense.

If I don't believe in him, I'm not "offering" him anything.

..and despite deformities, everyone has an a**.

So, lacking logic. -.-

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Sun 03/11/12 03:58 PM

Sin_and_Sorrow said:

I don't believe in Satan so he can suck my ***.

That said.




You don't want Satan to die laughing, eh




..and again.

Where is the logic in that question?
Do you know what "logic" actually is?